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pjhawks

Poncier said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mickeyrat said:

Poncier said:

mickeyrat said:

MayDay10 said:

mickeyrat said:

pjhawks said:

Poncier said:

Please, it was a TV show about the job of an advanced scout being taped with permission from the Browns. It wasn't football ops people and the memory cards were confiscated because the Bungles got upset since they host the Pats next week. Do you really think if the Pats were going to tape an opponent they'd choose the Bengals?

Like clockwork there it is

so wait, why do the bengals give a shit about the browns being taped or recording happening in the browns press box?

Because apparently, the "crew" filmed nothing but the Bengals sideline the entire 1st quarter.

ok. so this occured during browns/bengals. is it normal for any kind of scout to be at a game in this way? I mean what do they add that isnt gleaned from normal game film?

and why in the fuck would the browns agree to this?

Its normal for an advanced scout to attend the game of one of your next 2 upcoming opponents. He can be in the press box and take notes. He can't film.
The guy filming was supposed to be shooting a documentary style piece of the job of the advanced scout, if he filmed the field, its a violation. He was an employee/independent contractor of Kraft productions who does weekly TV show "Patriots All Access" plus some web content. He wasn't with the Pats football operations.

ok. seems to me the Bengals should have been asked for permission too.

and some could argue working for the owner of the team independently as it related to an employee of the team, in fact makes it a team thing.....

I doubt anything like this goes on without Belichick knowing about it. 

Another point I saw someone make on Twitter was that when the Patriots were investigated for spying in 2007, it was learned that Patriots cameramen were instructed by the team to say they were filming for a show if they were every caught filming sidelines...which is their story this time around. 

You really think Belichick approves the content of a web based video series for Patriots.com?
That's what the "Do your job" thing is.

And for the other point...if its on Twitter, it must be true.

spin spin. there is reportedly 8 straight minutes of the sideline being taped.  but nah the Pats aren't cheating...again...doing the same thing they've been caught doing before in the same manner using the same excuse.  nah it's all good,  

Ledbetterman10

Poncier said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

lol, after being ruled out of Sunday's game with the flu, Le'veon Bell spent Saturday night bowling. He also hasn't cracked 80 yards rushing in a game yet this year. 

Bastard cost me the semifinals in my fantasy playoffs when I had to bench his ass in favor of Sony 1.9 points Michel

That blows, but that's what he does to people (besides subjecting them to god-awful rap songs). I was one of the dumbasses that drafted him last year and he didn't play a single down. 

Poncier

pjhawks said:

Poncier said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mickeyrat said:

Poncier said:

mickeyrat said:

MayDay10 said:

mickeyrat said:

pjhawks said:

Poncier said:

Please, it was a TV show about the job of an advanced scout being taped with permission from the Browns. It wasn't football ops people and the memory cards were confiscated because the Bungles got upset since they host the Pats next week. Do you really think if the Pats were going to tape an opponent they'd choose the Bengals?

Like clockwork there it is

so wait, why do the bengals give a shit about the browns being taped or recording happening in the browns press box?

Because apparently, the "crew" filmed nothing but the Bengals sideline the entire 1st quarter.

ok. so this occured during browns/bengals. is it normal for any kind of scout to be at a game in this way? I mean what do they add that isnt gleaned from normal game film?

and why in the fuck would the browns agree to this?

Its normal for an advanced scout to attend the game of one of your next 2 upcoming opponents. He can be in the press box and take notes. He can't film.
The guy filming was supposed to be shooting a documentary style piece of the job of the advanced scout, if he filmed the field, its a violation. He was an employee/independent contractor of Kraft productions who does weekly TV show "Patriots All Access" plus some web content. He wasn't with the Pats football operations.

ok. seems to me the Bengals should have been asked for permission too.

and some could argue working for the owner of the team independently as it related to an employee of the team, in fact makes it a team thing.....

I doubt anything like this goes on without Belichick knowing about it. 

Another point I saw someone make on Twitter was that when the Patriots were investigated for spying in 2007, it was learned that Patriots cameramen were instructed by the team to say they were filming for a show if they were every caught filming sidelines...which is their story this time around. 

You really think Belichick approves the content of a web based video series for Patriots.com?
That's what the "Do your job" thing is.

And for the other point...if its on Twitter, it must be true.

spin spin. there is reportedly 8 straight minutes of the sideline being taped.

We'll see.
Remember a source told Chris Mortensen 11 of 12 footballs were grossly underinflated the night of Deflategate and that info turned out to be completely inaccurate. So we'll see what the league has to say and if the source that gave that info to Dehner is reliable.
Nowadays when plays are called through the speakers in helmets not sure what advantage you get from watching the opponents sidelines.

MayDay10

MayDay10 said:

I think its:

Didnt happen
We werent aware/bad and rogue employees
We did it but do not get any sort of advantage from it
We did it, got an advantage, but everyone does it

wow!

Quick progression into Step 3 already


Everyone does it should be out within an hour or so,

tbergs

Ledbetterman10 said:

Poncier said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

lol, after being ruled out of Sunday's game with the flu, Le'veon Bell spent Saturday night bowling. He also hasn't cracked 80 yards rushing in a game yet this year. 

Bastard cost me the semifinals in my fantasy playoffs when I had to bench his ass in favor of Sony 1.9 points Michel

That blows, but that's what he does to people (besides subjecting them to god-awful rap songs). I was one of the dumbasses that drafted him last year and he didn't play a single down. 

Same here. Benched Bell, but was no way putting in that disgrace of a draft pick Michel so I picked up Snell hoping for a waiver wire miracle. Fell flat and I'm out of the playoffs just like that.

Ledbetterman10

Poncier said:

pjhawks said:

Poncier said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mickeyrat said:

Poncier said:

mickeyrat said:

MayDay10 said:

mickeyrat said:

pjhawks said:

Poncier said:

Please, it was a TV show about the job of an advanced scout being taped with permission from the Browns. It wasn't football ops people and the memory cards were confiscated because the Bungles got upset since they host the Pats next week. Do you really think if the Pats were going to tape an opponent they'd choose the Bengals?

Like clockwork there it is

so wait, why do the bengals give a shit about the browns being taped or recording happening in the browns press box?

Because apparently, the "crew" filmed nothing but the Bengals sideline the entire 1st quarter.

ok. so this occured during browns/bengals. is it normal for any kind of scout to be at a game in this way? I mean what do they add that isnt gleaned from normal game film?

and why in the fuck would the browns agree to this?

Its normal for an advanced scout to attend the game of one of your next 2 upcoming opponents. He can be in the press box and take notes. He can't film.
The guy filming was supposed to be shooting a documentary style piece of the job of the advanced scout, if he filmed the field, its a violation. He was an employee/independent contractor of Kraft productions who does weekly TV show "Patriots All Access" plus some web content. He wasn't with the Pats football operations.

ok. seems to me the Bengals should have been asked for permission too.

and some could argue working for the owner of the team independently as it related to an employee of the team, in fact makes it a team thing.....

I doubt anything like this goes on without Belichick knowing about it. 

Another point I saw someone make on Twitter was that when the Patriots were investigated for spying in 2007, it was learned that Patriots cameramen were instructed by the team to say they were filming for a show if they were every caught filming sidelines...which is their story this time around. 

You really think Belichick approves the content of a web based video series for Patriots.com?
That's what the "Do your job" thing is.

And for the other point...if its on Twitter, it must be true.

spin spin. there is reportedly 8 straight minutes of the sideline being taped.

We'll see.
Remember a source told Chris Mortensen 11 of 12 footballs were grossly underinflated the night of Deflategate and that info turned out to be completely inaccurate. So we'll see what the league has to say and if the source that gave that info to Dehner is reliable.
Nowadays when plays are called through the speakers in helmets not sure what advantage you get from watching the opponents sidelines.

I'm not sure either. But what do we know? I'm sure the most successful football coach of all-time could come up with something. 

ikiT

MayDay10 said:

I think NFL referees are outstanding.

There are games that there are a number of close calls and they get a ton of focus... but this day and age where there are 30 close up camera angles and several million people emotionally watching with vested financial or fandom interests on the line. Players are also larger and faster/more efficient than ever.   Everything is analyzed to the microfiber.  The rules and format of the game has gotten so cumbersome, and it changes often (even mid-season).  

As a Bills fan, my team gets screwed by a missed holding call or pass interference.  I boo, get upset, then shortly move on.  Most of the time though, fans and media dont/cant let go... then we get additional layers added (for example the recent pass interference challenge nonsense).  It evens out over time.


We saw when they had the replacement referees how badly it could really be.  Those refs tore the fabric of the game when we saw what bad officiating really looks like.  By the end, they were losing control of nearly every game, players were fighting, game administration was breaking down, etc.  Real referees got back and it was night and day

They are not.  I see 2 or 3 calls in real time that are missed.

The instant replay for pass interference either must be abandoned or overhauled. 

ikiT

Denver KC looks like some ssshhhisty ass weather.  How was I lucky enough to get this CBS game?

ikiT

Poncier said:

pjhawks said:

Poncier said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mickeyrat said:

Poncier said:

mickeyrat said:

MayDay10 said:

mickeyrat said:

pjhawks said:

Poncier said:

Please, it was a TV show about the job of an advanced scout being taped with permission from the Browns. It wasn't football ops people and the memory cards were confiscated because the Bungles got upset since they host the Pats next week. Do you really think if the Pats were going to tape an opponent they'd choose the Bengals?

Like clockwork there it is

so wait, why do the bengals give a shit about the browns being taped or recording happening in the browns press box?

Because apparently, the "crew" filmed nothing but the Bengals sideline the entire 1st quarter.

ok. so this occured during browns/bengals. is it normal for any kind of scout to be at a game in this way? I mean what do they add that isnt gleaned from normal game film?

and why in the fuck would the browns agree to this?

Its normal for an advanced scout to attend the game of one of your next 2 upcoming opponents. He can be in the press box and take notes. He can't film.
The guy filming was supposed to be shooting a documentary style piece of the job of the advanced scout, if he filmed the field, its a violation. He was an employee/independent contractor of Kraft productions who does weekly TV show "Patriots All Access" plus some web content. He wasn't with the Pats football operations.

ok. seems to me the Bengals should have been asked for permission too.

and some could argue working for the owner of the team independently as it related to an employee of the team, in fact makes it a team thing.....

I doubt anything like this goes on without Belichick knowing about it. 

Another point I saw someone make on Twitter was that when the Patriots were investigated for spying in 2007, it was learned that Patriots cameramen were instructed by the team to say they were filming for a show if they were every caught filming sidelines...which is their story this time around. 

You really think Belichick approves the content of a web based video series for Patriots.com?
That's what the "Do your job" thing is.

And for the other point...if its on Twitter, it must be true.

spin spin. there is reportedly 8 straight minutes of the sideline being taped.

We'll see.
Remember a source told Chris Mortensen 11 of 12 footballs were grossly underinflated the night of Deflategate and that info turned out to be completely inaccurate. So we'll see what the league has to say and if the source that gave that info to Dehner is reliable.
Nowadays when plays are called through the speakers in helmets not sure what advantage you get from watching the opponents sidelines.

I want a sensor that measures inflation, ball temperature, and ball tackiness installed in all balls used in the NFL.  All those numbers, the PSI, the temp, should be on the screen just like the clock.  

How hard or soft are those balls in play? 
I want to know.  You should be forced to know.
You're welcome.

Jason P

ikiT said:

Poncier said:

pjhawks said:

Poncier said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mickeyrat said:

Poncier said:

mickeyrat said:

MayDay10 said:

mickeyrat said:

pjhawks said:

Poncier said:

Please, it was a TV show about the job of an advanced scout being taped with permission from the Browns. It wasn't football ops people and the memory cards were confiscated because the Bungles got upset since they host the Pats next week. Do you really think if the Pats were going to tape an opponent they'd choose the Bengals?

Like clockwork there it is

so wait, why do the bengals give a shit about the browns being taped or recording happening in the browns press box?

Because apparently, the "crew" filmed nothing but the Bengals sideline the entire 1st quarter.

ok. so this occured during browns/bengals. is it normal for any kind of scout to be at a game in this way? I mean what do they add that isnt gleaned from normal game film?

and why in the fuck would the browns agree to this?

Its normal for an advanced scout to attend the game of one of your next 2 upcoming opponents. He can be in the press box and take notes. He can't film.
The guy filming was supposed to be shooting a documentary style piece of the job of the advanced scout, if he filmed the field, its a violation. He was an employee/independent contractor of Kraft productions who does weekly TV show "Patriots All Access" plus some web content. He wasn't with the Pats football operations.

ok. seems to me the Bengals should have been asked for permission too.

and some could argue working for the owner of the team independently as it related to an employee of the team, in fact makes it a team thing.....

I doubt anything like this goes on without Belichick knowing about it. 

Another point I saw someone make on Twitter was that when the Patriots were investigated for spying in 2007, it was learned that Patriots cameramen were instructed by the team to say they were filming for a show if they were every caught filming sidelines...which is their story this time around. 

You really think Belichick approves the content of a web based video series for Patriots.com?
That's what the "Do your job" thing is.

And for the other point...if its on Twitter, it must be true.

spin spin. there is reportedly 8 straight minutes of the sideline being taped.

We'll see.
Remember a source told Chris Mortensen 11 of 12 footballs were grossly underinflated the night of Deflategate and that info turned out to be completely inaccurate. So we'll see what the league has to say and if the source that gave that info to Dehner is reliable.
Nowadays when plays are called through the speakers in helmets not sure what advantage you get from watching the opponents sidelines.

I want a sensor that measures inflation, ball temperature, and ball tackiness installed in all balls used in the NFL.  All those numbers, the PSI, the temp, should be on the screen just like the clock.  

How hard or soft are those balls in play? 
I want to know.  You should be forced to know.
You're welcome.

Bill's team could give the NFL some tips on how to do that.

mickeyrat

  Patriots' footage of Bengals' sideline aired on TV https://es.pn/34oQuvA
via @ESPN App http://espn.com/app

Cliffy6745

Lol wait....a pouncey is nominated for man of the year. The same family (person?) all about Hernandez?!

pjhawks

mickeyrat said:

  Patriots' footage of Bengals' sideline aired on TV https://es.pn/34oQuvA
via @ESPN App http://espn.com/app

But but the pats fans here already said it wasn’t true. They need an incredibly serious punishment. Ban them from the playoffs the cheating bastards

The Juggler

The Patriots second half line comes in like clock work yet again

mickeyrat

The Juggler said:

The Patriots second half line comes in like clock work yet again

against the bungles. means dick.

tempo_n_groove

The Juggler said:

The Patriots second half line comes in like clock work yet again

Years ago when Drew Breeze played for Purdue he would kill and I mean kill the other team in the first half.  We used to make a Vegas run and bet only the first half.  I don't think we ever lost one of those bets.

The Juggler

mickeyrat said:

The Juggler said:

The Patriots second half line comes in like clock work yet again

against the bungles. means dick.

Do you know how betting works, Mick?

Poncier

pjhawks said:

mickeyrat said:

  Patriots' footage of Bengals' sideline aired on TV https://es.pn/34oQuvA
via @ESPN App http://espn.com/app

But but the pats fans here already said it wasn’t true. They need an incredibly serious punishment. Ban them from the playoffs the cheating bastards

Worse yet, make them eat Chunky Soup.

MayDay10

The Bills are in!

Halifax2TheMax

The Bills are for real, the Steelers aluminum.