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mcgruff10 said:

fingers crossed:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-drop-2020-race-within-130200417.html

Trump to drop out of 2020 race within months, former aide Scaramucci claims

Donald Trump will quit the 2020 race and not seek re-election, according to a former top aide.

Anthony Scaramucci, the short-lived White House communications director, said the president will likelu quit the race in March to avoid the humiliation of defeat.

“He’s gonna drop out of the race because it’s gonna become very clear. Okay, it’ll be March of 2020. He’ll likely drop out by March of 2020. It’s gonna become very clear that it’s impossible for him to win,” he said in an interview with Vanity Fair.

“He’s got the self-worth in terms of his self-esteem of a small pigeon. It’s a very small pigeon. And so you think this guy’s gonna look at those poll numbers and say — he’s not gonna be able to handle that humiliation.”

He also encouraged a primary challenger to take on Mr Trump, using a Game of Thrones analogy to make his case.

“You know, this is like ‘Game of Thrones.’ We need an Arya Stark, okay? We gotta take this guy out because this is like the Night King.

“The minute the Night King is vaporised, all the zombies are gonna fall by the wayside, right? We had the Wicked Witch of the West, but he is the Wicked Witch of the West Wing. We gotta get some water thrown on him. He’ll start melting.”

In recent weeks, Scaramucci has escalated the feud with his old boss, saying Mr Trump would eventually “turn” on the “entire country”, and likening him to the Chernobyl nuclear disaster.

People said the same shit in 2016.

The Mooch is just saying this to stay in the news cycle, fuck him.

mrussel1 said:

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The union person was fine with it. 

“This is just what Shell wanted to do and we went along with it,” Ken Broadbent, business manager for Steamfitters Local 449, told the newspaper. He said he wouldn’t “bad rap” the situation.

“We’re glad to have the jobs. We’re glad to have the project built,” he said. “The president is the president whether we like him or dislike him. We respect him for the title.”

America

Everyone involved in that fascist move should fired. Including Trump. I am in a union, and if they tried to pull this, everyone would have shown up with fucking torches and pitchforks. And the Laboir board would have been on the company like a rabid pitbull. The fact that the workers actually felt cowed enough to tolerate this, and that the union rep actually felt like this was an option, definitely does speak volumes about where America is right now, both politically and in terms of workers' rights. Absolutely disgusting. Fascism has arrived in the USA.

You must be operating under your own special definition of fascism.  As much as I hate Trump, this isn't fascism.  If the plant is closed, why would one be paid for not being onsite? That's part of the union contract. 

mrussel1 said:

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PJ_Soul said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Meltdown99 said:

The union person was fine with it. 

“This is just what Shell wanted to do and we went along with it,” Ken Broadbent, business manager for Steamfitters Local 449, told the newspaper. He said he wouldn’t “bad rap” the situation.

“We’re glad to have the jobs. We’re glad to have the project built,” he said. “The president is the president whether we like him or dislike him. We respect him for the title.”

America

Everyone involved in that fascist move should fired. Including Trump. I am in a union, and if they tried to pull this, everyone would have shown up with fucking torches and pitchforks. And the Laboir board would have been on the company like a rabid pitbull. The fact that the workers actually felt cowed enough to tolerate this, and that the union rep actually felt like this was an option, definitely does speak volumes about where America is right now, both politically and in terms of workers' rights. Absolutely disgusting. Fascism has arrived in the USA.

You must be operating under your own special definition of fascism.  As much as I hate Trump, this isn't fascism.  If the plant is closed, why would one be paid for not being onsite? That's part of the union contract. 

mcgruff10 said:

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mrussel1 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Meltdown99 said:

The union person was fine with it. 

“This is just what Shell wanted to do and we went along with it,” Ken Broadbent, business manager for Steamfitters Local 449, told the newspaper. He said he wouldn’t “bad rap” the situation.

“We’re glad to have the jobs. We’re glad to have the project built,” he said. “The president is the president whether we like him or dislike him. We respect him for the title.”

America

Everyone involved in that fascist move should fired. Including Trump. I am in a union, and if they tried to pull this, everyone would have shown up with fucking torches and pitchforks. And the Laboir board would have been on the company like a rabid pitbull. The fact that the workers actually felt cowed enough to tolerate this, and that the union rep actually felt like this was an option, definitely does speak volumes about where America is right now, both politically and in terms of workers' rights. Absolutely disgusting. Fascism has arrived in the USA.

You must be operating under your own special definition of fascism.  As much as I hate Trump, this isn't fascism.  If the plant is closed, why would one be paid for not being onsite? That's part of the union contract. 

Agreed, this is definitely not fascism but typical union leadership telling the rank and file what to do. If I read the article correctly members who went were paid overtime for attending lol.  “In addition, workers who decided not to listen to the president’s speech reportedly would not be paid overtime rates routinely built in for extra time during the week.“

mrussel1 said:

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mcgruff10 said:

mrussel1 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Meltdown99 said:

The union person was fine with it. 

“This is just what Shell wanted to do and we went along with it,” Ken Broadbent, business manager for Steamfitters Local 449, told the newspaper. He said he wouldn’t “bad rap” the situation.

“We’re glad to have the jobs. We’re glad to have the project built,” he said. “The president is the president whether we like him or dislike him. We respect him for the title.”

America

Everyone involved in that fascist move should fired. Including Trump. I am in a union, and if they tried to pull this, everyone would have shown up with fucking torches and pitchforks. And the Laboir board would have been on the company like a rabid pitbull. The fact that the workers actually felt cowed enough to tolerate this, and that the union rep actually felt like this was an option, definitely does speak volumes about where America is right now, both politically and in terms of workers' rights. Absolutely disgusting. Fascism has arrived in the USA.

You must be operating under your own special definition of fascism.  As much as I hate Trump, this isn't fascism.  If the plant is closed, why would one be paid for not being onsite? That's part of the union contract. 

Agreed, this is definitely not fascism but typical union leadership telling the rank and file what to do. If I read the article correctly members who went were paid overtime for attending lol.  “In addition, workers who decided not to listen to the president’s speech reportedly would not be paid overtime rates routinely built in for extra time during the week.“

I disagree with this take as well.  It's not the union's fault either.  Anyone could have chosen not to come to work and there could be no legal consequences for doing so.  But you don't get paid, because the workers are non-exempt.  And because you have a day unpaid, you will likely not receive OT for the week because you won't be above the number required for OT, since you skipped a day a work.  And why should the worker be paid if he/she didn't come into work and the factory wasn't operating?  If one has a beef, it should be with Shell for shutting the factory down for a day for a political rally.  But again, that's not even in the ball park of being 'fascism'.  

mrussel1 said:

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mcgruff10 said:

mrussel1 said:

mcgruff10 said:

mrussel1 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Meltdown99 said:

The union person was fine with it. 

“This is just what Shell wanted to do and we went along with it,” Ken Broadbent, business manager for Steamfitters Local 449, told the newspaper. He said he wouldn’t “bad rap” the situation.

“We’re glad to have the jobs. We’re glad to have the project built,” he said. “The president is the president whether we like him or dislike him. We respect him for the title.”

America

Everyone involved in that fascist move should fired. Including Trump. I am in a union, and if they tried to pull this, everyone would have shown up with fucking torches and pitchforks. And the Laboir board would have been on the company like a rabid pitbull. The fact that the workers actually felt cowed enough to tolerate this, and that the union rep actually felt like this was an option, definitely does speak volumes about where America is right now, both politically and in terms of workers' rights. Absolutely disgusting. Fascism has arrived in the USA.

You must be operating under your own special definition of fascism.  As much as I hate Trump, this isn't fascism.  If the plant is closed, why would one be paid for not being onsite? That's part of the union contract. 

Agreed, this is definitely not fascism but typical union leadership telling the rank and file what to do. If I read the article correctly members who went were paid overtime for attending lol.  “In addition, workers who decided not to listen to the president’s speech reportedly would not be paid overtime rates routinely built in for extra time during the week.“

I disagree with this take as well.  It's not the union's fault either.  Anyone could have chosen not to come to work and there could be no legal consequences for doing so.  But you don't get paid, because the workers are non-exempt.  And because you have a day unpaid, you will likely not receive OT for the week because you won't be above the number required for OT, since you skipped a day a work.  And why should the worker be paid if he/she didn't come into work and the factory wasn't operating?  If one has a beef, it should be with Shell for shutting the factory down for a day for a political rally.  But again, that's not even in the ball park of being 'fascism'.  

I misread that the factory was shut down for the day. The way I read it was that if you went you got overtime.  But I still think this is pretty sop for unions, they tell you support a candidate then you do . However any way you look examine the event it is definitely not fascism. 

It's a good point on the union leaders.  Have they been fascist for 80 years and we never noticed?

mrussel1 said:

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PJ_Soul said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Meltdown99 said:

The union person was fine with it. 

“This is just what Shell wanted to do and we went along with it,” Ken Broadbent, business manager for Steamfitters Local 449, told the newspaper. He said he wouldn’t “bad rap” the situation.

“We’re glad to have the jobs. We’re glad to have the project built,” he said. “The president is the president whether we like him or dislike him. We respect him for the title.”

America

Everyone involved in that fascist move should fired. Including Trump. I am in a union, and if they tried to pull this, everyone would have shown up with fucking torches and pitchforks. And the Laboir board would have been on the company like a rabid pitbull. The fact that the workers actually felt cowed enough to tolerate this, and that the union rep actually felt like this was an option, definitely does speak volumes about where America is right now, both politically and in terms of workers' rights. Absolutely disgusting. Fascism has arrived in the USA.

You must be operating under your own special definition of fascism.  As much as I hate Trump, this isn't fascism.  If the plant is closed, why would one be paid for not being onsite? That's part of the union contract.