Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez

Jason P said:

^ I'd like to see those two star in an ABC sitcom

mrussel1 said:

cincybearcat said:

Jason P said:

^ I'd like to see those two star in an ABC sitcom

Yes! one that gets cancelled and you never hear of the actors/actresses again!

If I never had to hear from Cruz again, and had to sacrifice AOC to make it happen... DEAL.  

mrussel1 said:

If student loans are a scam,  then by normal logic,  either college is a scam and/or the whole concept of loaning money.  Be interested to know which one. 

And Jason,  completely agree with your point about how this helps only those most likely to be high earners in the future. 

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

If student loans are a scam,  then by normal logic,  either college is a scam and/or the whole concept of loaning money.  Be interested to know which one. 

And Jason,  completely agree with your point about how this helps only those most likely to be high earners in the future. 

Well technically they both are tied together.

You can't get a private loan anymore for college because the banks screwed that up.

Colleges raise their tuition's now because they know everyone can get a loan for college.

The list goes on and on how colleges have scammed people.

tempo_n_groove said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

If student loans are a scam,  then by normal logic,  either college is a scam and/or the whole concept of loaning money.  Be interested to know which one. 

And Jason,  completely agree with your point about how this helps only those most likely to be high earners in the future. 

Well technically they both are tied together.

You can't get a private loan anymore for college because the banks screwed that up.

Colleges raise their tuition's now because they know everyone can get a loan for college.

The list goes on and on how colleges have scammed people.

Are colleges/universities privately run?

Yes.  Gov't doesn't run them.

tempo_n_groove said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

If student loans are a scam,  then by normal logic,  either college is a scam and/or the whole concept of loaning money.  Be interested to know which one. 

And Jason,  completely agree with your point about how this helps only those most likely to be high earners in the future. 

Well technically they both are tied together.

You can't get a private loan anymore for college because the banks screwed that up.

Colleges raise their tuition's now because they know everyone can get a loan for college.

The list goes on and on how colleges have scammed people.

Are colleges/universities privately run?

Yes.  Gov't doesn't run them.

PJ_Soul said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

If student loans are a scam,  then by normal logic,  either college is a scam and/or the whole concept of loaning money.  Be interested to know which one. 

And Jason,  completely agree with your point about how this helps only those most likely to be high earners in the future. 

Well technically they both are tied together.

You can't get a private loan anymore for college because the banks screwed that up.

Colleges raise their tuition's now because they know everyone can get a loan for college.

The list goes on and on how colleges have scammed people.

Are colleges/universities privately run?

Yes.  Gov't doesn't run them.

That depends on your definition.  State universities are chartered by the state and the governor usually has some oversight and influence. 

Of course I'm talking about Canada, where private universities aren't really a thing, but I work at a public university, and the government has zero impact on the day-to-day operations of the schools, nor on tuition fees or other fees that students pay. What the government does is determine how much funding the universities get to do what they will with, and it also of course regulates student loans. Plus the universities ultimately answer to the tax payers in terms of how the government funding is spent, but that is not a constantly monitored thing. The universities keep that in mind in good faith, and of course are always aware of the possibility of a government audit. Keep in mind too, that public universities still work their asses off to get private donations and come up with a multitude of other ways to earn money on top of government subsidies. In all cases, though, that money goes straight back into the university.

PJ_Soul said:

mrussel1 said:

PJ_Soul said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

If student loans are a scam,  then by normal logic,  either college is a scam and/or the whole concept of loaning money.  Be interested to know which one. 

And Jason,  completely agree with your point about how this helps only those most likely to be high earners in the future. 

Well technically they both are tied together.

You can't get a private loan anymore for college because the banks screwed that up.

Colleges raise their tuition's now because they know everyone can get a loan for college.

The list goes on and on how colleges have scammed people.

Are colleges/universities privately run?

Yes.  Gov't doesn't run them.

That depends on your definition.  State universities are chartered by the state and the governor usually has some oversight and influence. 

Of course I'm talking about Canada, where private universities aren't really a thing, but I work at a public university, and the government has zero impact on the day-to-day operations of the schools, nor on tuition fees or other fees that students pay. What the government does is determine how much funding the universities get to do what they will with, and it also of course regulates student loans. Plus the universities ultimately answer to the tax payers in terms of how the government funding is spent, but that is not a constantly monitored thing. The universities keep that in mind in good faith, and of course are always aware of the possibility of a government audit. Keep in mind too, that public universities still work their asses off to get private donations and come up with a multitude of other ways to earn money on top of government subsidies. In all cases, though, that money goes straight back into the university.

I can't speak for every state, only states for where I've lived, and our state u's are basically run the same way.  Governors or the legislature rarely get involved unless there is some crisis or scandal.  I think they probably have some leverage to remove chancellors or presidents in certain situations.  
The universities set the tuition rates but I'm sure the gov't also has some guidelines they may set.  I do know that for example, UVA is the most expensive school, followed closely by William and Mary.  The prices are definitely connected to the perceived quality of the education.  

One thing our provincial government can do and has done in the past is freeze tuition rates. So the schools do determine them generally, but the province can make them not raise them anymore, for any period of time until they or the next government unfreezes them.... And such a freeze is how I paid my own way through university in the 90s! Of course the revolting, disgusting, piece of shit BC Liberal party (aka BC's conservative party) removed the freeze as soon as they come into office, and since then the tuition rates have more than tripled.