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That reminds me, I did want to go to old navy this weekend and get some khaki shorts.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yo! Get your hood and torch, yo! Maybe ride a horse like the EPA, Interior and Roy Moore fella. Hey! Maybe Unsung can let us know if there are any constitutional violations in the government’s actions? Anyone get Randy Paul’s reaction to the news? You couldn’t make out his muffled response to the questions? Was because of the robe or the ribs?Hi! said:Ice, Ice Baby!
This ought to go over well. Some people are into this shit. Is this unprecedented? Seems a little over the top to me.
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And a polo shirt too? Pop the collar? They got tiki torches too? Lyrics to the chant? Let us know if there’s a sale, will ya?Hi! said:
That reminds me, I did want to go to old navy this weekend and get some khaki shorts.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yo! Get your hood and torch, yo! Maybe ride a horse like the EPA, Interior and Roy Moore fella. Hey! Maybe Unsung can let us know if there are any constitutional violations in the government’s actions? Anyone get Randy Paul’s reaction to the news? You couldn’t make out his muffled response to the questions? Was because of the robe or the ribs?Hi! said:Ice, Ice Baby!
This ought to go over well. Some people are into this shit. Is this unprecedented? Seems a little over the top to me.
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5d0d2297e4b0a39418621c41
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I guess I’m the only one who thought this was a good move. We don’t need war, and we don’t need people to die over a freaking drone.
we need to impose more sanctions and squeeze them until their people revolt like Venezuela and get that terrorist govt out of there. Iran is bad news and giving them $$ was an obviously weak and bad decision by our last leadership. They're involved in all kinds of ugly stuff over there, but war isn’t the answer. Best solution is to sanction the shit out of them until desperation causes upheaval.I'm like an opening band for your mom.0 -
While I agree with you about no war, your sanctions comment is selfish as hell. Talk to a Venezuelan today and ask how things are going for them. No human should be subjected to a life with the challenges they're encountering today - to make replicating Venezuelan conditions a goal is an inhumane pursuit, and hardly an upgrade over the current Iran.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:I guess I’m the only one who thought this was a good move. We don’t need war, and we don’t need people to die over a freaking drone.
we need to impose more sanctions and squeeze them until their people revolt like Venezuela and get that terrorist govt out of there. Iran is bad news and giving them $$ was an obviously weak and bad decision by our last leadership. They're involved in all kinds of ugly stuff over there, but war isn’t the answer. Best solution is to sanction the shit out of them until desperation causes upheaval.'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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I hear you, no need to attack me as selfish. Provide your solution, don’t attack someone else’s. Sounds like you think we should just ignore it? That’s a good idea until things get worse, and then what do we do then? That regime is dangerous to the countries around it, and it’s own people.benjs said:
While I agree with you about no war, your sanctions comment is selfish as hell. Talk to a Venezuelan today and ask how things are going for them. No human should be subjected to a life with the challenges they're encountering today - to make replicating Venezuelan conditions a goal is an inhumane pursuit, and hardly an upgrade over the current Iran.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:I guess I’m the only one who thought this was a good move. We don’t need war, and we don’t need people to die over a freaking drone.
we need to impose more sanctions and squeeze them until their people revolt like Venezuela and get that terrorist govt out of there. Iran is bad news and giving them $$ was an obviously weak and bad decision by our last leadership. They're involved in all kinds of ugly stuff over there, but war isn’t the answer. Best solution is to sanction the shit out of them until desperation causes upheaval.I'm like an opening band for your mom.0 -
We didn't give them money, we released frozen assets. The JCPOA was working and they were in compliance, until Trump pulled out of the deal. And you know damn well he only left the deal because it was Obama's. Trump would (rightly) do anything to get that same deal with NK, but there's no chance of that. This whole situation was precipitated by our administration. He created the crisis.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
I hear you, no need to attack me as selfish. Provide your solution, don’t attack someone else’s. Sounds like you think we should just ignore it? That’s a good idea until things get worse, and then what do we do then? That regime is dangerous to the countries around it, and it’s own people.benjs said:
While I agree with you about no war, your sanctions comment is selfish as hell. Talk to a Venezuelan today and ask how things are going for them. No human should be subjected to a life with the challenges they're encountering today - to make replicating Venezuelan conditions a goal is an inhumane pursuit, and hardly an upgrade over the current Iran.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:I guess I’m the only one who thought this was a good move. We don’t need war, and we don’t need people to die over a freaking drone.
we need to impose more sanctions and squeeze them until their people revolt like Venezuela and get that terrorist govt out of there. Iran is bad news and giving them $$ was an obviously weak and bad decision by our last leadership. They're involved in all kinds of ugly stuff over there, but war isn’t the answer. Best solution is to sanction the shit out of them until desperation causes upheaval.0 -
No, you don’t release frozen assets to tyrannical govts, because they’ll use it in the wrong ways. That was a pay off to push the inevitable further down the line and appease them. The whole deal was ya just allowing and ok-ing their poor behaviors. They’re being punished already by sanctions, but to those that say we shouldn’t punish more are silly, you don’t let your kid behave poorly, you take away their phone. You need to put down a punishment or you’re walked all over. Avoiding military conflict is the most important thing, and I don’t think trump is a war guy, so that’s good. Our real option is more sanctions, get other countries to join in, and squeeze them until they behave.mrussel1 said:
We didn't give them money, we released frozen assets. The JCPOA was working and they were in compliance, until Trump pulled out of the deal. And you know damn well he only left the deal because it was Obama's. Trump would (rightly) do anything to get that same deal with NK, but there's no chance of that. This whole situation was precipitated by our administration. He created the crisis.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
I hear you, no need to attack me as selfish. Provide your solution, don’t attack someone else’s. Sounds like you think we should just ignore it? That’s a good idea until things get worse, and then what do we do then? That regime is dangerous to the countries around it, and it’s own people.benjs said:
While I agree with you about no war, your sanctions comment is selfish as hell. Talk to a Venezuelan today and ask how things are going for them. No human should be subjected to a life with the challenges they're encountering today - to make replicating Venezuelan conditions a goal is an inhumane pursuit, and hardly an upgrade over the current Iran.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:I guess I’m the only one who thought this was a good move. We don’t need war, and we don’t need people to die over a freaking drone.
we need to impose more sanctions and squeeze them until their people revolt like Venezuela and get that terrorist govt out of there. Iran is bad news and giving them $$ was an obviously weak and bad decision by our last leadership. They're involved in all kinds of ugly stuff over there, but war isn’t the answer. Best solution is to sanction the shit out of them until desperation causes upheaval.I'm like an opening band for your mom.0 -
I believe you're conflating two different issues. State sponsored terrorism is a different problem than nuclear proliferation. The administration's objective was to stop the enrichment process, which is a far greater danger to the region and the world than terrorist cells. By any measure, until the day the treaty was ripped up, that was successful. The term of the JCPOA was 15 years, so some people said, well that's kicking the can down the road. And it was, but rationally. The hope was to bring them into the first world by virtue of the old line revolutionary guard leaving power in the next 15 years, which they should as they are old. In order to get a deal with someone, you have to give up something. The removal of some sanctions and the return of frozen assets is a small price to pay for lack of uranium enrichment.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
No, you don’t release frozen assets to tyrannical govts, because they’ll use it in the wrong ways. That was a pay off to push the inevitable further down the line and appease them. The whole deal was ya just allowing and ok-ing their poor behaviors. They’re being punished already by sanctions, but to those that say we shouldn’t punish more are silly, you don’t let your kid behave poorly, you take away their phone. You need to put down a punishment or you’re walked all over. Avoiding military conflict is the most important thing, and I don’t think trump is a war guy, so that’s good. Our real option is more sanctions, get other countries to join in, and squeeze them until they behave.mrussel1 said:
We didn't give them money, we released frozen assets. The JCPOA was working and they were in compliance, until Trump pulled out of the deal. And you know damn well he only left the deal because it was Obama's. Trump would (rightly) do anything to get that same deal with NK, but there's no chance of that. This whole situation was precipitated by our administration. He created the crisis.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
I hear you, no need to attack me as selfish. Provide your solution, don’t attack someone else’s. Sounds like you think we should just ignore it? That’s a good idea until things get worse, and then what do we do then? That regime is dangerous to the countries around it, and it’s own people.benjs said:
While I agree with you about no war, your sanctions comment is selfish as hell. Talk to a Venezuelan today and ask how things are going for them. No human should be subjected to a life with the challenges they're encountering today - to make replicating Venezuelan conditions a goal is an inhumane pursuit, and hardly an upgrade over the current Iran.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:I guess I’m the only one who thought this was a good move. We don’t need war, and we don’t need people to die over a freaking drone.
we need to impose more sanctions and squeeze them until their people revolt like Venezuela and get that terrorist govt out of there. Iran is bad news and giving them $$ was an obviously weak and bad decision by our last leadership. They're involved in all kinds of ugly stuff over there, but war isn’t the answer. Best solution is to sanction the shit out of them until desperation causes upheaval.0 -
The west could just get the hell out of the Middle East...we in NA do not need middle east oil...RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
I hear you, no need to attack me as selfish. Provide your solution, don’t attack someone else’s. Sounds like you think we should just ignore it? That’s a good idea until things get worse, and then what do we do then? That regime is dangerous to the countries around it, and it’s own people.benjs said:
While I agree with you about no war, your sanctions comment is selfish as hell. Talk to a Venezuelan today and ask how things are going for them. No human should be subjected to a life with the challenges they're encountering today - to make replicating Venezuelan conditions a goal is an inhumane pursuit, and hardly an upgrade over the current Iran.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:I guess I’m the only one who thought this was a good move. We don’t need war, and we don’t need people to die over a freaking drone.
we need to impose more sanctions and squeeze them until their people revolt like Venezuela and get that terrorist govt out of there. Iran is bad news and giving them $$ was an obviously weak and bad decision by our last leadership. They're involved in all kinds of ugly stuff over there, but war isn’t the answer. Best solution is to sanction the shit out of them until desperation causes upheaval.Give Peas A Chance…0 -
I think we all agree with thisMeltdown99 said:
The west could just get the hell out of the Middle East...we in NA do not need middle east oil...RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
I hear you, no need to attack me as selfish. Provide your solution, don’t attack someone else’s. Sounds like you think we should just ignore it? That’s a good idea until things get worse, and then what do we do then? That regime is dangerous to the countries around it, and it’s own people.benjs said:
While I agree with you about no war, your sanctions comment is selfish as hell. Talk to a Venezuelan today and ask how things are going for them. No human should be subjected to a life with the challenges they're encountering today - to make replicating Venezuelan conditions a goal is an inhumane pursuit, and hardly an upgrade over the current Iran.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:I guess I’m the only one who thought this was a good move. We don’t need war, and we don’t need people to die over a freaking drone.
we need to impose more sanctions and squeeze them until their people revolt like Venezuela and get that terrorist govt out of there. Iran is bad news and giving them $$ was an obviously weak and bad decision by our last leadership. They're involved in all kinds of ugly stuff over there, but war isn’t the answer. Best solution is to sanction the shit out of them until desperation causes upheaval.I'm like an opening band for your mom.0 -
We do not all agree. Otherwise, the west would have been gone long ago...RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
I think we all agree with thisMeltdown99 said:
The west could just get the hell out of the Middle East...we in NA do not need middle east oil...RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
I hear you, no need to attack me as selfish. Provide your solution, don’t attack someone else’s. Sounds like you think we should just ignore it? That’s a good idea until things get worse, and then what do we do then? That regime is dangerous to the countries around it, and it’s own people.benjs said:
While I agree with you about no war, your sanctions comment is selfish as hell. Talk to a Venezuelan today and ask how things are going for them. No human should be subjected to a life with the challenges they're encountering today - to make replicating Venezuelan conditions a goal is an inhumane pursuit, and hardly an upgrade over the current Iran.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:I guess I’m the only one who thought this was a good move. We don’t need war, and we don’t need people to die over a freaking drone.
we need to impose more sanctions and squeeze them until their people revolt like Venezuela and get that terrorist govt out of there. Iran is bad news and giving them $$ was an obviously weak and bad decision by our last leadership. They're involved in all kinds of ugly stuff over there, but war isn’t the answer. Best solution is to sanction the shit out of them until desperation causes upheaval.Give Peas A Chance…0 -
We’re doing the right thing though, at least in lessening our dependence on their oil. That was the first step.Meltdown99 said:
We do not all agree. Otherwise, the west would have been gone long ago...RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
I think we all agree with thisMeltdown99 said:
The west could just get the hell out of the Middle East...we in NA do not need middle east oil...RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
I hear you, no need to attack me as selfish. Provide your solution, don’t attack someone else’s. Sounds like you think we should just ignore it? That’s a good idea until things get worse, and then what do we do then? That regime is dangerous to the countries around it, and it’s own people.benjs said:
While I agree with you about no war, your sanctions comment is selfish as hell. Talk to a Venezuelan today and ask how things are going for them. No human should be subjected to a life with the challenges they're encountering today - to make replicating Venezuelan conditions a goal is an inhumane pursuit, and hardly an upgrade over the current Iran.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:I guess I’m the only one who thought this was a good move. We don’t need war, and we don’t need people to die over a freaking drone.
we need to impose more sanctions and squeeze them until their people revolt like Venezuela and get that terrorist govt out of there. Iran is bad news and giving them $$ was an obviously weak and bad decision by our last leadership. They're involved in all kinds of ugly stuff over there, but war isn’t the answer. Best solution is to sanction the shit out of them until desperation causes upheaval.I'm like an opening band for your mom.0 -
You can't just let them be a nuclear power though. That will de-stabilize the region in the near term and then be a threat to us and continental Europe within a few years after that. This should be the primary objective and it's the very reason for the JCPOA. Removing the economic interest is not the solution.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
We’re doing the right thing though, at least in lessening our dependence on their oil. That was the first step.Meltdown99 said:
We do not all agree. Otherwise, the west would have been gone long ago...RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
I think we all agree with thisMeltdown99 said:
The west could just get the hell out of the Middle East...we in NA do not need middle east oil...RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
I hear you, no need to attack me as selfish. Provide your solution, don’t attack someone else’s. Sounds like you think we should just ignore it? That’s a good idea until things get worse, and then what do we do then? That regime is dangerous to the countries around it, and it’s own people.benjs said:
While I agree with you about no war, your sanctions comment is selfish as hell. Talk to a Venezuelan today and ask how things are going for them. No human should be subjected to a life with the challenges they're encountering today - to make replicating Venezuelan conditions a goal is an inhumane pursuit, and hardly an upgrade over the current Iran.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:I guess I’m the only one who thought this was a good move. We don’t need war, and we don’t need people to die over a freaking drone.
we need to impose more sanctions and squeeze them until their people revolt like Venezuela and get that terrorist govt out of there. Iran is bad news and giving them $$ was an obviously weak and bad decision by our last leadership. They're involved in all kinds of ugly stuff over there, but war isn’t the answer. Best solution is to sanction the shit out of them until desperation causes upheaval.0 -
I don't buy that bullshit line anymore. Iran is building a nuclear bomb with or without an agreement. And it's not up to America to decide who gets the bomb or not. And that region has been unstable as long as I can remember...caused mostly by the west...
Just end ALL US sanction that hurt individuals anywhere in the world where...sanctions that target the countries citizenry is STUPID...and harmful and just creates hatred towards the US...Give Peas A Chance…0 -
I agree that sanctions move the population closer to the gov't and away from the west, but according to the enforcement agencies, Iran was in compliance, therefore sanctions were off. Seems like it was working. I disagree with you that we have no interest in trying to reduce proliferation. I think our allies in SK, Japan and throughout SE Asia would be mortified if we took that position. They would be in immediate and imminent danger.Meltdown99 said:I don't buy that bullshit line anymore. Iran is building a nuclear bomb with or without an agreement. And it's not up to America to decide who gets the bomb or not. And that region has been unstable as long as I can remember...caused mostly by the west...
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Frozen assets? That's a lot of klondike bars.
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Those countries have enough people and in some cases enough $$$ to defend them themselves. I am always amazed that people are always willing to sacrifice other people's sons and daughters for other countries that can not get there together...mrussel1 said:
I agree that sanctions move the population closer to the gov't and away from the west, but according to the enforcement agencies, Iran was in compliance, therefore sanctions were off. Seems like it was working. I disagree with you that we have no interest in trying to reduce proliferation. I think our allies in SK, Japan and throughout SE Asia would be mortified if we took that position. They would be in immediate and imminent danger.Meltdown99 said:I don't buy that bullshit line anymore. Iran is building a nuclear bomb with or without an agreement. And it's not up to America to decide who gets the bomb or not. And that region has been unstable as long as I can remember...caused mostly by the west...
Just end ALL US sanction that hurt individuals anywhere in the world where...sanctions that target the countries citizenry is STUPID...and harmful and just creates hatred towards the US...
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Exclusive: White House's Kushner unveils an economic portion of Middle East peace plan
https://reut.rs/2IycH2w?fbclid=IwAR33u_WRQsw0D-54q5cZamKkI5-3ser_IzINVOoQ9Sj6bOklSS3YVCGvt3AThe Trump administration hopes that other countries, principally wealthy Gulf states, and private investors, would foot much of the bill, Kushner told Reuters.
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No, Japan and SK have agreed to not go nuclear. They could not defend themselves against a nuclear power like SK.Meltdown99 said:
Those countries have enough people and in some cases enough $$$ to defend them themselves. I am always amazed that people are always willing to sacrifice other people's sons and daughters for other countries that can not get there together...mrussel1 said:
I agree that sanctions move the population closer to the gov't and away from the west, but according to the enforcement agencies, Iran was in compliance, therefore sanctions were off. Seems like it was working. I disagree with you that we have no interest in trying to reduce proliferation. I think our allies in SK, Japan and throughout SE Asia would be mortified if we took that position. They would be in immediate and imminent danger.Meltdown99 said:I don't buy that bullshit line anymore. Iran is building a nuclear bomb with or without an agreement. And it's not up to America to decide who gets the bomb or not. And that region has been unstable as long as I can remember...caused mostly by the west...
Just end ALL US sanction that hurt individuals anywhere in the world where...sanctions that target the countries citizenry is STUPID...and harmful and just creates hatred towards the US...0
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