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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,749
    edited May 2019
    I'm surprised no one has accused Pete's tweet as being ageist yet. 
    I don't think it's ageist to point out differences between generations (and I know you don't either). Maybe that is why no one has made that accusation?
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,664
    njnancy said:
    I'm surprised no one has accused Pete's tweet as being ageist yet. 
    He had an even better response on Jimmy Fallon last night, which I suppose could be called elitist, but I found to be great...


    https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/buttigieg-laughs-off-trump-calling-him-alfred-e-neuman-59581509946


    And nice going with the woman at Tim's. If I was homeless, I'd probably go for the best if given the chance too. :smile:




    yeah, at first i was like "so that's how it's going to be, eh?", but then I thought what you just thought, and realized it wasn't a big deal. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,664
    PJ_Soul said:
    I'm surprised no one has accused Pete's tweet as being ageist yet. 
    I don't think it's ageist to point out differences between generations (and I know you don't either). Maybe that is why no one has made that accusation?
    it was more of a comment in jest that I'm not at all surprised, based on who we're talking about. 
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  • Vitalogensia
    Vitalogensia Posts: 2,206
    Wow, I didn't know that.  Add that to how well coal is doing thanks to Trump (smh).
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,561
    I’m not sure I have it in me to watch but if I need comedic relief, I may reconsider. You’ve been warned.

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  • njnancy
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    I’m not sure I have it in me to watch but if I need comedic relief, I may reconsider. You’ve been warned.

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    I read the article, I am not prepared to watch this lunacy right now. I actually can't watch him speak, it makes me crazy. 
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    njnancy said:
    I’m not sure I have it in me to watch but if I need comedic relief, I may reconsider. You’ve been warned.

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    I read the article, I am not prepared to watch this lunacy right now. I actually can't watch him speak, it makes me crazy. 
    2+ years in, I still can't believe this is real life. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,664
    he's still touting that quote about "if the wind doesn't blow, you aren't watching tv that night". wtf. seriously no one can believe that. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,664
    njnancy said:
    I’m not sure I have it in me to watch but if I need comedic relief, I may reconsider. You’ve been warned.

    https://apple.news/Ad5bWdbIqQbCXlejSMadQJw
    I read the article, I am not prepared to watch this lunacy right now. I actually can't watch him speak, it makes me crazy. 
    2+ years in, I still can't believe this is real life. 
    me neither
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  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    njnancy said:
    I’m not sure I have it in me to watch but if I need comedic relief, I may reconsider. You’ve been warned.

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    I read the article, I am not prepared to watch this lunacy right now. I actually can't watch him speak, it makes me crazy. 
    2+ years in, I still can't believe this is real life. 
    Same here.
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  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    mfc2006 said:
    njnancy said:
    I’m not sure I have it in me to watch but if I need comedic relief, I may reconsider. You’ve been warned.

    https://apple.news/Ad5bWdbIqQbCXlejSMadQJw
    I read the article, I am not prepared to watch this lunacy right now. I actually can't watch him speak, it makes me crazy. 
    2+ years in, I still can't believe this is real life. 
    Same here.
     This is not normal.  
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    njnancy said:
    mfc2006 said:
    njnancy said:
    I’m not sure I have it in me to watch but if I need comedic relief, I may reconsider. You’ve been warned.

    https://apple.news/Ad5bWdbIqQbCXlejSMadQJw
    I read the article, I am not prepared to watch this lunacy right now. I actually can't watch him speak, it makes me crazy. 
    2+ years in, I still can't believe this is real life. 
    Same here.
     This is not normal.  
    Nowhere near normal.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,953
    hmm I thought media like that was supposed to at least offer equal time for candidates?    Maybe that doesn't apply in this case somehow?  
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,751
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    basically telling Congress go screw yourselves and daring them to do something about it , the country is under control by a mob family and people better be ready for this to be the norm from now on ! The family will be in control for yrs to come 2020 will not make this stop ..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,525
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,525
    benjs said:
    C’mon Pete. If true it’s nit that generational. Please. And I like Pete, but this is stupid 
    Yeah a better response would be something like "My friends called me Alfred E. Neuman in middle school. So real clever, Mr. President."

    It's crazy, but this sort of thing actually counts in the age of Trump; how you respond to insults. This response by Pete, is the third instance I can think of where Trump made an insult, and the democrat on the receiving end either didn't respond or responded in a typical politican way.....because they're professional and Trump is so immature. It makes them look afraid of him. It's sad to watch. 

    2016 Debate
    Hillary: It's a good thing that someone with the temperament of Donald Trump isn't in charge of the laws in this country.
    Trump: Because you'd be in jail.
    Hilary: [Smug smirk because it's beneath her to respond to that]

    Better response: "You know something, Donald? YOU are the one that should be in jail. You rip off contractors, your rip of investors, and you cheat on your taxes!"

    Trump posts a video of Joe Biden talking, with another Biden creepily massaging the first Biden's neck.
    Biden tweet in response: "I see that you are on the job and presidential, as always."

    Better response: "Yeah massages are one thing but at least I don't grab women by the pussy!"

    Alright maybe he shouldn't have said EXACTLY that, but give me something! On the job and presidential as always? What's next? Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me? 

    That's one thing I'll give Elizabeth Warren, she seems up for a fight. Sanders too. The rest of them? I'm not so sure...

    I don’t see this as him responding as if he’s afraid, I see it as him responding in a way that highlights Trump’s age and makes him look less relevant. I don’t have an issue with it. 
    The idea seemed to be to push his "Im a new generation, the first president to grow in in the post 9/11/school shooting US" thing. 

    But it also made him come off as someone who never had friends, and just studied all day in his room with his taped glasses growing up. Which to me will be his problem to normal folks - "look at me I know seven languages and studied at Harvard".

    You can never write a good character in fiction without writing in flaws. 


    Not knowing about MAD magazine?
    This is a smart dude, who has been consistent in unwillingness to play 'the game' with Trump. I think this is more about that than not knowing who Neumann is. 
    Here's (in my opinion) a better response - is he "playing the game" ?

    https://youtu.be/R5Xk7q01SSQ
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    edited May 2019
    I work at a mortgage company and spoke with a guy in Florida who has an adjustable rate that is adjusting in August. Rates have dipped recently but long term trend is for them to rise so it's a good time to take care of it now.

    Anyway, I was explaining this to the guy and was telling him this is a great time to get his rate fixed at a lower rate than his current adjustable and keep him on the same term yada yada yada.

    His response was something of the effect of "Well due to the great Trump economy I think rates are going to go down again so I'm gonna keep my adjustable." 

    I explained that when the economy is doing well, it usually means rates rise. Then he asked if that's true then why is the president is telling the fed to lower rates? I said I think it's either because he doesn't know how it works or it's just for political purposes. Then he says something like "well let's hope the democrats don''t take over and drive the economy into the ground like they did the last time." I was like "sir, that great recession occurred back in the Bush administration."

    Then he say curse word... I hang up!

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  • cincybearcat
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    Howard stern is the best interviewer in history. And that was a great interview with him. Thank you.
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,390
    benjs said:
    C’mon Pete. If true it’s nit that generational. Please. And I like Pete, but this is stupid 
    Yeah a better response would be something like "My friends called me Alfred E. Neuman in middle school. So real clever, Mr. President."

    It's crazy, but this sort of thing actually counts in the age of Trump; how you respond to insults. This response by Pete, is the third instance I can think of where Trump made an insult, and the democrat on the receiving end either didn't respond or responded in a typical politican way.....because they're professional and Trump is so immature. It makes them look afraid of him. It's sad to watch. 

    2016 Debate
    Hillary: It's a good thing that someone with the temperament of Donald Trump isn't in charge of the laws in this country.
    Trump: Because you'd be in jail.
    Hilary: [Smug smirk because it's beneath her to respond to that]

    Better response: "You know something, Donald? YOU are the one that should be in jail. You rip off contractors, your rip of investors, and you cheat on your taxes!"

    Trump posts a video of Joe Biden talking, with another Biden creepily massaging the first Biden's neck.
    Biden tweet in response: "I see that you are on the job and presidential, as always."

    Better response: "Yeah massages are one thing but at least I don't grab women by the pussy!"

    Alright maybe he shouldn't have said EXACTLY that, but give me something! On the job and presidential as always? What's next? Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me? 

    That's one thing I'll give Elizabeth Warren, she seems up for a fight. Sanders too. The rest of them? I'm not so sure...

    I don’t see this as him responding as if he’s afraid, I see it as him responding in a way that highlights Trump’s age and makes him look less relevant. I don’t have an issue with it. 
    The idea seemed to be to push his "Im a new generation, the first president to grow in in the post 9/11/school shooting US" thing. 

    But it also made him come off as someone who never had friends, and just studied all day in his room with his taped glasses growing up. Which to me will be his problem to normal folks - "look at me I know seven languages and studied at Harvard".

    You can never write a good character in fiction without writing in flaws. 


    Not knowing about MAD magazine?
    This is a smart dude, who has been consistent in unwillingness to play 'the game' with Trump. I think this is more about that than not knowing who Neumann is. 
    Here's (in my opinion) a better response - is he "playing the game" ?

    https://youtu.be/R5Xk7q01SSQ
    Fair! A few cheap shots, so maybe I'm wrong and he doesn't know who Alfred E. Neumann is. <sarcasm> I suppose he's not worthy of a vote then. </sarcasm>
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