Julian Assange Arrested.

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  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    I am on the fence with this guy.
    Some people say the rape charges are false accusations just to get him extradited to the US and some people say they are true accusations.
    Who to believe?
    ... take a guess...
    It's like flipping a coin. 
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  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 8,929
    I am on the fence with this guy.
    Some people say the rape charges are false accusations just to get him extradited to the US and some people say they are true accusations.
    Who to believe?
    ... take a guess...
    What's the use of taking an uninformed position (aka a guess)?
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  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Does anyone know what he meant by "UK resist" when he was arrested? Resist extraditing him to the US or something else?
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,524
    U.S. Brings New Charges Against Julian Assange In War Logs, State Cables Case
    https://n.pr/2X2z3hz
  • rhanishanerhanishane NSW Australia Posts: 505
    i know his sister. she is my friends mum and thats his uncle lol
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,867
    edited May 2019
    benjs said:
    I am on the fence with this guy.
    Some people say the rape charges are false accusations just to get him extradited to the US and some people say they are true accusations.
    Who to believe?
    ... take a guess...
    What's the use of taking an uninformed position (aka a guess)?
    There was legit police investigations in Sweden that needed him for questioning.

    Why even fantasize about Sweden being some totalitarian regime where investigations can be started and put time and effort into by police officers, prosecutors and lawyers + overlooked by journalists (not the kind from your cable news shows) just because the US want's to get a hold of him?

    Sweden is not a direct-to-video thriller you rent with your Tinder date. 

    "After reviewing the preliminary investigation carried out so far, I find that there still exist grounds for Julian Assange to be suspected on probable cause of the charge of rape," Persson said.

    Stop shitting on women just to be able to live in some bullshit conspiracy theory dream land. It's not fair.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    julian assange was never charged with any crime in sweden. the swedish police  determined there was no case for him to answer. i dont know what went on with the english govt and the ecuadorean embassy but fuck you to the australian govt for doing nothing for a citizen of your country. 
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  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    julian assange was never charged with any crime in sweden. the swedish police  determined there was no case for him to answer. i dont know what went on with the english govt and the ecuadorean embassy but fuck you to the australian govt for doing nothing for a citizen of your country. 
    What do you expect from our government who are eroding our freedoms.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    julian assange was never charged with any crime in sweden. the swedish police  determined there was no case for him to answer. i dont know what went on with the english govt and the ecuadorean embassy but fuck you to the australian govt for doing nothing for a citizen of your country. 
    What do you expect from our government who are eroding our freedoms.


    too much apparently. 
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,786
    Exclusive: Security reports reveal how Assange turned an embassy into a command post for election meddling

    Despite being confined to the embassy while seeking safe passage to Ecuador, Assange met with Russians and world-class hackers at critical moments, frequently for hours at a time. He also acquired powerful new computing and network hardware to facilitate data transfers just weeks before WikiLeaks received hacked materials from Russian operatives.

    • JUNE 14, 2016
      • Democratic National Committee announces it's been hacked and blames Russia.
    • JUNE 19, 2016
      • Assange asks the Ecuadorian embassy to beef up his Internet connection.
      • Embassy staff give Assange technical support "for data transmission," according to the surveillance reports, and help install new equipment.
    • JULY 6, 2016
      • WikiLeaks asks Russian hackers for materials about Clinton "because the (Democratic National Convention) is approaching and she will solidify bernie (Sanders) supporters behind her after."
    • JULY 14, 2016
      • Russian hackers send encrypted files to WikiLeaks, titled "big archive."
      • Assange meets for hours with German hackers Andrew Müller-Maguhn and Bernd Fix.
    • JULY 18, 2016
      • Republican National Convention kicks off in Cleveland.
      • At the embassy, an Ecuadorian security guard abandons his post to receive a package outside the embassy from a man in disguise.
      • WikiLeaks tells the Russian hackers they got the files.
    • JULY 22, 2016
      • WikiLeaks releases more than 20,000 internal files from the Democratic National Committee.

    jfc
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,258
    CM189191 said:
    Exclusive: Security reports reveal how Assange turned an embassy into a command post for election meddling

    Despite being confined to the embassy while seeking safe passage to Ecuador, Assange met with Russians and world-class hackers at critical moments, frequently for hours at a time. He also acquired powerful new computing and network hardware to facilitate data transfers just weeks before WikiLeaks received hacked materials from Russian operatives.

    • JUNE 14, 2016
      • Democratic National Committee announces it's been hacked and blames Russia.
    • JUNE 19, 2016
      • Assange asks the Ecuadorian embassy to beef up his Internet connection.
      • Embassy staff give Assange technical support "for data transmission," according to the surveillance reports, and help install new equipment.
    • JULY 6, 2016
      • WikiLeaks asks Russian hackers for materials about Clinton "because the (Democratic National Convention) is approaching and she will solidify bernie (Sanders) supporters behind her after."
    • JULY 14, 2016
      • Russian hackers send encrypted files to WikiLeaks, titled "big archive."
      • Assange meets for hours with German hackers Andrew Müller-Maguhn and Bernd Fix.
    • JULY 18, 2016
      • Republican National Convention kicks off in Cleveland.
      • At the embassy, an Ecuadorian security guard abandons his post to receive a package outside the embassy from a man in disguise.
      • WikiLeaks tells the Russian hackers they got the files.
    • JULY 22, 2016
      • WikiLeaks releases more than 20,000 internal files from the Democratic National Committee.

    jfc
    All on behalf of a fucking Baffoon !
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,867
    edited September 2019
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,410
    Julian might be making a trip to the USA soon.....


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  • mickeyrat said:
    Julian might be making a trip to the USA soon.....


    As well he should but it’s a double edged sword as the government may be requested to reveal sources and methods via discovery. It’ll be interesting but I don’t expect CYA Barr to aggressively pursue charges, for obvious reasons.
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    I’m sure if he is trump supporter nothing will come of it
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,129
    i heard this weekend that someone is going to come forward and say that trump dangled a pardon for assange. i can't remember who it was though. but if true it sounds about right...
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,129
    oh my bad. they must have been rehashing this story from Feb.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/19/uk/assange-trump-pardon-rohrabacher-us-gbr-intl/index.html


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  • oh my bad. they must have been rehashing this story from Feb.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/19/uk/assange-trump-pardon-rohrabacher-us-gbr-intl/index.html


    Pardon?
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,410



    UK court permits Assange extradition to US on spying charges
    17 mins ago

    LONDON (AP) — A British appellate court opened the door Friday for Julian Assange to be extradited to the United States by overturning a lower court ruling that found the WikiLeaks founder's mental health was too fragile to withstand the American criminal justice system.

    The High Court in London ruled that U.S. assurances were enough to guarantee Assange would be treated humanely and directed a lower court judge to send the extradition request to the home secretary for review. The home secretary, who oversees law enforcement in the U.K., will make the final decision on whether to extradite Assange.

    However, the appellate court ruling handed down Friday is likely to be appealed.

    A lower court judge earlier this year refused an American request to extradite Assange to the U.S. to face spying charges over WikiLeaks’ publication of secret military documents a decade ago. District Judge Vanessa Baraitser denied extradition on health grounds, saying Assange was likely to kill himself if held under harsh U.S. prison conditions.

    The United States appealed, challenging the notion that Assange’s mental health made him too vulnerable to withstand the U.S. judicial system. Lawyer James Lewis said Assange “has no history of serious and enduring mental illness” and does not meet the threshold of being so ill that he cannot resist harming himself.

    U.S. authorities have told British judges that if they agree to extradite Assange, he could serve any U.S. prison sentence he receives in his native Australia.

    U.S. prosecutors have indicted Assange on 17 espionage charges and one charge of computer misuse over WikiLeaks’ publication of thousands of leaked military and diplomatic documents. The charges carry a maximum sentence of 175 years in prison, although Lewis said “the longest sentence ever imposed for this offense is 63 months.”

    Assange, 50, is currently being held at London’s high-security Belmarsh Prison.


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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    https://assangedefense.org/press-release/ad-chairs-noam-chomsky-daniel-ellsberg-and-alice-walker-react/

    June 17

    “It is a sad day for western democracy. The UK’s decision to extradite Julian Assange to the nation that plotted to assassinate him – the nation that wants to imprison him for 175 years for publishing truthful information in the public interest – is an abomination. 

    We expect the world’s most despised autocrats to persecute journalists, publishers, and whistleblowers. We expect totalitarian regimes to gaslight their people and crack down on those who challenge the government. Shouldn’t we expect western democracies to behave better?

    The U.S. government argues that its venerated Constitution does not protect journalism the government dislikes, and that publishing truthful information in the public interest is a subversive, criminal act. This argument is a threat not only to journalism, but to democracy itself. 

    The UK has shown its complicity in this farce, by agreeing to extradite a foreigner based on politically motivated charges that collapse under the slightest scrutiny.”

    – Noam Chomsky, Daniel Ellsberg, and Alice Walker

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  • cutzcutz Posts: 11,400
    static111 said:
    https://assangedefense.org/press-release/ad-chairs-noam-chomsky-daniel-ellsberg-and-alice-walker-react/

    June 17

    “It is a sad day for western democracy. The UK’s decision to extradite Julian Assange to the nation that plotted to assassinate him – the nation that wants to imprison him for 175 years for publishing truthful information in the public interest – is an abomination. 

    We expect the world’s most despised autocrats to persecute journalists, publishers, and whistleblowers. We expect totalitarian regimes to gaslight their people and crack down on those who challenge the government. Shouldn’t we expect western democracies to behave better?

    The U.S. government argues that its venerated Constitution does not protect journalism the government dislikes, and that publishing truthful information in the public interest is a subversive, criminal act. This argument is a threat not only to journalism, but to democracy itself. 

    The UK has shown its complicity in this farce, by agreeing to extradite a foreigner based on politically motivated charges that collapse under the slightest scrutiny.”

    – Noam Chomsky, Daniel Ellsberg, and Alice Walker

    Did he , or didn't he, hack to gain that info?
  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    cutz said:
    static111 said:
    https://assangedefense.org/press-release/ad-chairs-noam-chomsky-daniel-ellsberg-and-alice-walker-react/

    June 17

    “It is a sad day for western democracy. The UK’s decision to extradite Julian Assange to the nation that plotted to assassinate him – the nation that wants to imprison him for 175 years for publishing truthful information in the public interest – is an abomination. 

    We expect the world’s most despised autocrats to persecute journalists, publishers, and whistleblowers. We expect totalitarian regimes to gaslight their people and crack down on those who challenge the government. Shouldn’t we expect western democracies to behave better?

    The U.S. government argues that its venerated Constitution does not protect journalism the government dislikes, and that publishing truthful information in the public interest is a subversive, criminal act. This argument is a threat not only to journalism, but to democracy itself. 

    The UK has shown its complicity in this farce, by agreeing to extradite a foreigner based on politically motivated charges that collapse under the slightest scrutiny.”

    – Noam Chomsky, Daniel Ellsberg, and Alice Walker

    Did he , or didn't he, hack to gain that info?
    To me that question is irrelevant.  Without wikileaks we would have never learned about the scale of mass surveillance on American citizens as well as the world or the myriad of American war crimes.  This farce is basically telling the press that there are limits to what the people get to know, that is if you value your life and autonomy.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,410
    hearings today and tomorrow on extradition....

    https://apnews.com/article/wikileaks-assange-extradition-appeal-hearing-48e6786241f35064833e40060a90279a   WikiLeaks founder Assange faces his last legal roll of the dice in Britain to avoid US extradition

     
    WikiLeaks founder Assange faces his last legal roll of the dice in Britain to avoid US extradition
    By JILL LAWLESS
    7 mins ago

    LONDON (AP) — Julian Assange's lawyers opened a final U.K. legal challenge Tuesday to stop the WikiLeaks founder from being sent to the United States to face spying charges, arguing that American authorities are seeking to punish him for exposing serious criminal acts by the U.S. state

    Lawyer Edward Fitzgerald said there is a risk Assange “will suffer a flagrant denial of justice” if he is sent to the U.S. At a two-day High Court hearing, Assange’s attorneys are asking judges to grant a new appeal, his last legal roll of the dice in Britain

    Assange himself was not in court. Judge Victoria Sharp said he was granted permission to come from Belmarsh Prison, where he has been held for five years, but had chosen not to attend. Fitzgerald said the 52-year-old Australian was unwell but did not elaborate on his health.

    Assange has been fighting extradition for more than a decade, including seven years in self-exile in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London and the last five years in the high-security prison on the outskirts of the British capital.

    He has been indicted on 17 charges of espionage and one charge of computer misuse over his website’s publication of classified U.S. documents almost 15 years ago. American prosecutors say Assange helped U.S. Army intelligence analyst Chelsea Manning steal diplomatic cables and military files that WikiLeaks later published, putting lives at risk.

    To his supporters, Assange is a secrecy-busting journalist who exposed U.S. military wrongdoing in Iraq and Afghanistan. They argue that the prosecution is politically motivated and he won’t get a fair trial in the U.S.

    Hundreds of supporters holding “Free Julian Assange” signs and chanting “there is only one decision – no extradition” held a noisy protest outside the ne-Gothic High Court in London. Rallies were also held in cities around the world, including Brussels and Berlin.

    Assange’s wife Stella Assange told the crowd the case was about “the right to be able to speak freely without being put in prison and hounded and terrorized by the state.”

    Referring to the Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny, who died in prison last week, she said: “What happened to Navalny can happen to Julian, and will happen to Julian if he is extradited.”

    Stella Assange, who married the WikiLeaks founder in prison in 2022 — said last week that his health has deteriorated during years of confinement and "if he’s extradited, he will die.”

    If the judges rule against Assange, he can ask the European Court of Human Rights to block his extradition — though supporters worry he could be put on a plane to the U.S. before that happens, because the British government has already signed an extradition order.

    Assange’s lawyers say he could face up to 175 years in prison if convicted, though American authorities have said the sentence is likely to be much shorter than that.

    While several of Assange’s arguments against extradition have already been rejected by British courts, his lawyers are trying to make new points to secure an appeal.

    “He is being prosecuted for engaging in ordinary journalistic practice of obtaining and publishing classified information,” lawyer Fitzgerald said in court, arguing that publication of leaked documents is a common journalistic practice, protected by well-established principles of free speech.

    The attorneys argued that the prosecution of Assange is politically motivated retaliation for WikiLeaks' "exposure of criminality on the part of the U.S. government on an unprecedented scale.”

    “The U.S. was prepared to go to any lengths (including misusing its own criminal justice system) to sustain impunity for U.S. officials in respect of the torture/war crimes committed in its infamous ‘war on terror’, and to suppress those actors and courts willing and prepared to try to bring those crimes to account," Assange's lawyers said in written arguments. "Mr. Assange was one of those targets.”

    Assange’s lawyers also want judges to reconsider allegations that the CIA developed plans to kidnap or kill Assange while he was in the Ecuadorian Embassy. A lower-court judge has dismissed the claims, but Assange attorney Mark Summers said Tuesday “there is compelling evidence now in existence that the plot was real.”

    “There was a plot to kidnap Mr. Assange, to rendition him to America, or else straightforwardly murder him,” the lawyer claimed.

    James Lewis, a lawyer for the U.S., said Assange was being prosecuted “because he is alleged to have committed serious criminal offences.”

    He argued in written submissions that Assange’s actions “threatened damage to the strategic and national security interests of the United States” and put individuals named in the documents — including Iraqis and Afghans who had helped U.S. forces — at risk of “serious physical harm.”

    Assange’s legal troubles began in 2010, when he was arrested in London at the request of Sweden, which wanted to question him about allegations of rape and sexual assault made by two women. In 2012, Assange jumped bail and sought refuge inside the Ecuadorian Embassy, where he was beyond the reach of the authorities — but was also effectively a prisoner in the tiny diplomatic mission.

    The relationship between Assange and his hosts eventually soured, and he was evicted from the embassy in April 2019. British police immediately arrested him for breaching bail in 2012, and he remains in prison. Sweden dropped the sex crimes investigations in November 2019 because so much time had elapsed.

    A U.K. district court judge rejected the U.S. extradition request in 2021 on the grounds that Assange was likely to kill himself if held under harsh U.S. prison conditions. Higher courts overturned that decision after getting assurances from the U.S. about his treatment. The British government signed an extradition order in June 2022.

    Meanwhile, the Australian parliament last week called for Assange to be allowed to return to his homeland.

    The judges, Sharp and Jeremy Johnson, could deliver a verdict at the end of the two-day hearing on Wednesday, but they’re more likely to take several weeks to consider their decision.


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