Julian Assange Arrested.

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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    CM189191 said:
    He should answer to the Swedish charges. The US charges are just political charges and he’s about to become a political prisoner.  The US is one corrupt country that this guy, Chelsea Manning and Snowden has exposed them as...

    anyone who exposes corruption within government is fine with me...
    No, they’re criminal charges. But I’d be fine with having him stand trial in Sweden, serve his time if convicted and then face extradition to the US to face trial. 
    Bullshit...they are political charges.  The US is getting Just as corrupt as the banana republics you go to war with every few years...take of your star spangled glasses.  You like your government spying on you...home of the free my ass.  Home of the corrupt is more like it.

    Seems you know something the rest of us don't.   What are the US charges levied against Assange? 

    Because I haven't seen that published anywhere.  Do tell....
    LMFAO....The fact that US prosecutors would reveal the charges should tell you something.  You like most Americans are blind if you cannot see the corrupt ness within your government that was exposed.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    CM189191 said:
    He should answer to the Swedish charges. The US charges are just political charges and he’s about to become a political prisoner.  The US is one corrupt country that this guy, Chelsea Manning and Snowden has exposed them as...

    anyone who exposes corruption within government is fine with me...
    No, they’re criminal charges. But I’d be fine with having him stand trial in Sweden, serve his time if convicted and then face extradition to the US to face trial. 
    Bullshit...they are political charges.  The US is getting Just as corrupt as the banana republics you go to war with every few years...take of your star spangled glasses.  You like your government spying on you...home of the free my ass.  Home of the corrupt is more like it.

    Seems you know something the rest of us don't.   What are the US charges levied against Assange? 

    Because I haven't seen that published anywhere.  Do tell....
    LMFAO....The fact that US prosecutors would reveal the charges should tell you something.  You like most Americans are blind if you cannot see the corrupt ness within your government that was exposed.
    Please enlighten us, what should revelations of charges tell us?
     
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  • Meltdown99
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    Since when do some of you care about facts anyway?   You have no proof Trump colluded with Russia, but you whine and cry on a daily basis, or maybe that's an hourly basis...
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Since when do some of you care about facts anyway?   You have no proof Trump colluded with Russia, but you whine and cry on a daily basis, or maybe that's an hourly basis...
    Please present some facts, seeing how you seem to care more so than others.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    my2hands said:
    pjhawks said:
    wait weren't there a lot of people here who supported wiki leaks and assange when they first came out?  maybe ill have to review that other thread to see but if my memory serves me correctly a lot of people were all for him and wiki leaks at the beginning.  
    This is correct... then they picked on John Podesta and the left lost their shit lol

    I remember what you remember... they loved wikileaks right up until the day Trump said he loved them, then they all flipped
    James Bond liked Alec until that scene in the statue-cemetary. So what?


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  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    edited April 2019


    Should have had to stand trial for rape and other sexual crimes in Sweden. But seems the crimes has reached its "period of limitation" ? though. 

    So disappointing in Pamela Anderson for falling for this dude.


    On 18 November 2010, Marianne Ny ordered the detention of Julian Assange on suspicion of rape, three cases of sexual molestation and unlawful coercion. The Stockholm District Court acceded to the order and issued a European Arrest Warrant to execute it.[10] The warrant was appealed to the Svea Court of Appeal which upheld its issuance, but lowered it to suspicion of rape of a lesser degree, unlawful coercion and two cases of sexual molestation rather than three.[22][23] The warrant was also appealed to the Supreme Court of Sweden, which decided not to hear the case.[24] At this time Assange had been living in the United Kingdom for 1–2 months. An extradition hearing took place in an English court in February 2011 to consider an application by Swedish authorities for the extradition of Assange to Sweden. The outcome of the hearing was announced on 24 February 2011, when the extradition warrant was upheld. Assange appealed to the High Court. On 2 November 2011, the court upheld the extradition decision and rejected all four grounds for the appeal as presented by Assange's legal representatives. £19,000 costs was also awarded against Assange. On 5 December 2011, Assange was refused permission by the High Court to appeal to the Supreme Court. The High Court certified that his case raised a point of law of general public importance. The Supreme Court subsequently granted permission to appeal,[25] and heard the appeal on 1 and 2 February 2012.[26] The court reserved its judgment and dismissed the appeal on 30 May 2012.[27] Assange has said the investigation is "without basis". He remained on conditional bail in the United Kingdom.[14][28][29] On 19 June 2012, Assange sought refuge at Ecuador's Embassy in London and was granted temporary asylum. On 16 August 2012, he was granted full asylum by the Ecuadorian government but has been unable to leave the embassy without being arrested.
    The news says they got till sometime in 2020 to try him...but I thought at one time they decided they were not going to pursue the charges??  Maybe I read wrong.
    One case has reached the period of limitations - if that is what its called. And the other case I think was dropped. Don't know the reason - lack of evidence or that the dude was hiding in the embassy.

    Google translate:


    The Swedish pre-trial against Julian Assange regarding rape was canceled in 2017. The reason was that the prosecutor did not consider there was reason to believe that he would be handed over to Sweden within a reasonable time.

    After Assange was arrested in London, the plaintiff assistant Elisabeth Massi Fritz hopes that he will be extradited to Sweden. "That what we have been waiting for and hoping for almost seven years now, of course, happens as a shock to my client. We will do everything we can to ensure that prosecutors resume the Swedish preliminary investigation so that Assange can be extradited to Sweden and prosecuted for rape, ”she writes in a comment to TT.

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  • Meltdown99
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    Should have had to stand trial for rape and other sexual crimes in Sweden. But seems the crimes has reached its "period of limitation" ? though. 

    So disappointing in Pamela Anderson for falling for this dude.


    On 18 November 2010, Marianne Ny ordered the detention of Julian Assange on suspicion of rape, three cases of sexual molestation and unlawful coercion. The Stockholm District Court acceded to the order and issued a European Arrest Warrant to execute it.[10] The warrant was appealed to the Svea Court of Appeal which upheld its issuance, but lowered it to suspicion of rape of a lesser degree, unlawful coercion and two cases of sexual molestation rather than three.[22][23] The warrant was also appealed to the Supreme Court of Sweden, which decided not to hear the case.[24] At this time Assange had been living in the United Kingdom for 1–2 months. An extradition hearing took place in an English court in February 2011 to consider an application by Swedish authorities for the extradition of Assange to Sweden. The outcome of the hearing was announced on 24 February 2011, when the extradition warrant was upheld. Assange appealed to the High Court. On 2 November 2011, the court upheld the extradition decision and rejected all four grounds for the appeal as presented by Assange's legal representatives. £19,000 costs was also awarded against Assange. On 5 December 2011, Assange was refused permission by the High Court to appeal to the Supreme Court. The High Court certified that his case raised a point of law of general public importance. The Supreme Court subsequently granted permission to appeal,[25] and heard the appeal on 1 and 2 February 2012.[26] The court reserved its judgment and dismissed the appeal on 30 May 2012.[27] Assange has said the investigation is "without basis". He remained on conditional bail in the United Kingdom.[14][28][29] On 19 June 2012, Assange sought refuge at Ecuador's Embassy in London and was granted temporary asylum. On 16 August 2012, he was granted full asylum by the Ecuadorian government but has been unable to leave the embassy without being arrested.
    The news says they got till sometime in 2020 to try him...but I thought at one time they decided they were not going to pursue the charges??  Maybe I read wrong.
    One case has reached the period of limitations - if that is what its called. And the other case I think was dropped. Don't know the reason - lack of evidence or that the dude was hiding in the embassy.

    Google translate:


    The Swedish pre-trial against Julian Assange regarding rape was canceled in 2017. The reason was that the prosecutor did not consider there was reason to believe that he would be handed over to Sweden within a reasonable time.

    After Assange was arrested in London, the plaintiff assistant Elisabeth Massi Fritz hopes that he will be extradited to Sweden. "That what we have been waiting for and hoping for almost seven years now, of course, happens as a shock to my client. We will do everything we can to ensure that prosecutors resume the Swedish preliminary investigation so that Assange can be extradited to Sweden and prosecuted for rape, ”she writes in a comment to TT.
    At least Sweden has legit charges to file against him.  All the US has charged him with is conspiring with Chelsea Manning to expose the US and their corruption and I believe she was pardoned.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Should have had to stand trial for rape and other sexual crimes in Sweden. But seems the crimes has reached its "period of limitation" ? though. 

    So disappointing in Pamela Anderson for falling for this dude.


    On 18 November 2010, Marianne Ny ordered the detention of Julian Assange on suspicion of rape, three cases of sexual molestation and unlawful coercion. The Stockholm District Court acceded to the order and issued a European Arrest Warrant to execute it.[10] The warrant was appealed to the Svea Court of Appeal which upheld its issuance, but lowered it to suspicion of rape of a lesser degree, unlawful coercion and two cases of sexual molestation rather than three.[22][23] The warrant was also appealed to the Supreme Court of Sweden, which decided not to hear the case.[24] At this time Assange had been living in the United Kingdom for 1–2 months. An extradition hearing took place in an English court in February 2011 to consider an application by Swedish authorities for the extradition of Assange to Sweden. The outcome of the hearing was announced on 24 February 2011, when the extradition warrant was upheld. Assange appealed to the High Court. On 2 November 2011, the court upheld the extradition decision and rejected all four grounds for the appeal as presented by Assange's legal representatives. £19,000 costs was also awarded against Assange. On 5 December 2011, Assange was refused permission by the High Court to appeal to the Supreme Court. The High Court certified that his case raised a point of law of general public importance. The Supreme Court subsequently granted permission to appeal,[25] and heard the appeal on 1 and 2 February 2012.[26] The court reserved its judgment and dismissed the appeal on 30 May 2012.[27] Assange has said the investigation is "without basis". He remained on conditional bail in the United Kingdom.[14][28][29] On 19 June 2012, Assange sought refuge at Ecuador's Embassy in London and was granted temporary asylum. On 16 August 2012, he was granted full asylum by the Ecuadorian government but has been unable to leave the embassy without being arrested.
    The news says they got till sometime in 2020 to try him...but I thought at one time they decided they were not going to pursue the charges??  Maybe I read wrong.
    One case has reached the period of limitations - if that is what its called. And the other case I think was dropped. Don't know the reason - lack of evidence or that the dude was hiding in the embassy.

    Google translate:


    The Swedish pre-trial against Julian Assange regarding rape was canceled in 2017. The reason was that the prosecutor did not consider there was reason to believe that he would be handed over to Sweden within a reasonable time.

    After Assange was arrested in London, the plaintiff assistant Elisabeth Massi Fritz hopes that he will be extradited to Sweden. "That what we have been waiting for and hoping for almost seven years now, of course, happens as a shock to my client. We will do everything we can to ensure that prosecutors resume the Swedish preliminary investigation so that Assange can be extradited to Sweden and prosecuted for rape, ”she writes in a comment to TT.
    At least Sweden has legit charges to file against him.  All the US has charged him with is conspiring with Chelsea Manning to expose the US and their corruption and I believe she was pardoned.
    After serving 7 years post conviction, but you know, facts.
     
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  • oftenreading
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    my2hands said:
    pjhawks said:
    wait weren't there a lot of people here who supported wiki leaks and assange when they first came out?  maybe ill have to review that other thread to see but if my memory serves me correctly a lot of people were all for him and wiki leaks at the beginning.  
    This is correct... then they picked on John Podesta and the left lost their shit lol

    I remember what you remember... they loved wikileaks right up until the day Trump said he loved them, then they all flipped
    Didn't you say just the other day that your change of position on something was a positive sign of personal growth?
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  • my2hands said:
    pjhawks said:
    wait weren't there a lot of people here who supported wiki leaks and assange when they first came out?  maybe ill have to review that other thread to see but if my memory serves me correctly a lot of people were all for him and wiki leaks at the beginning.  
    This is correct... then they picked on John Podesta and the left lost their shit lol

    I remember what you remember... they loved wikileaks right up until the day Trump said he loved them, then they all flipped
    Didn't you say just the other day that your change of position on something was a positive sign of personal growth?

    lol
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  • my2hands
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    my2hands said:
    pjhawks said:
    wait weren't there a lot of people here who supported wiki leaks and assange when they first came out?  maybe ill have to review that other thread to see but if my memory serves me correctly a lot of people were all for him and wiki leaks at the beginning.  
    This is correct... then they picked on John Podesta and the left lost their shit lol

    I remember what you remember... they loved wikileaks right up until the day Trump said he loved them, then they all flipped
    Didn't you say just the other day that your change of position on something was a positive sign of personal growth?
    This change came as a result of treating politics as a team sport... flipping on wikileaks isnt growth, its hypocrisy 

    I didn't just start paying attention when he came down the escalator 
  • oftenreading
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    my2hands said:
    my2hands said:
    pjhawks said:
    wait weren't there a lot of people here who supported wiki leaks and assange when they first came out?  maybe ill have to review that other thread to see but if my memory serves me correctly a lot of people were all for him and wiki leaks at the beginning.  
    This is correct... then they picked on John Podesta and the left lost their shit lol

    I remember what you remember... they loved wikileaks right up until the day Trump said he loved them, then they all flipped
    Didn't you say just the other day that your change of position on something was a positive sign of personal growth?
    This change came as a result of treating politics as a team sport... flipping on wikileaks isnt growth, its hypocrisy 

    I didn't just start paying attention when he came down the escalator 

    Sure.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    my2hands said:
    my2hands said:
    pjhawks said:
    wait weren't there a lot of people here who supported wiki leaks and assange when they first came out?  maybe ill have to review that other thread to see but if my memory serves me correctly a lot of people were all for him and wiki leaks at the beginning.  
    This is correct... then they picked on John Podesta and the left lost their shit lol

    I remember what you remember... they loved wikileaks right up until the day Trump said he loved them, then they all flipped
    Didn't you say just the other day that your change of position on something was a positive sign of personal growth?
    This change came as a result of treating politics as a team sport... flipping on wikileaks isnt growth, its hypocrisy 

    I didn't just start paying attention when he came down the escalator 

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    I don't care about this. 

    He should rot for his sexual crimes.

    And destroying my perception of goddess Pamela Anderson.
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  • Jason P
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    pjhawks said:
    wait weren't there a lot of people here who supported wiki leaks and assange when they first came out?  maybe ill have to review that other thread to see but if my memory serves me correctly a lot of people were all for him and wiki leaks at the beginning.  
    I feel the same way ... Feels like this thread entered an episode of the Twilight Zone. Maybe Assange said something positive about Trump at some point in time ...
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  • Meltdown99
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    I don't care about this. 

    He should rot for his sexual crimes.

    And destroying my perception of goddess Pamela Anderson.
    Then Sweden should not have back away from the charges, or they should re-charge and extradite...

    It's up to your country.


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  • dignin
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    So apparently peoples perceptions of others has to stay static forever, no matter what comes to light.

    I guess none of you liked Bill Cosby, Louis C.K, Kevin Spacey, OJ Simpson or anyone like that at any period of time. I guess you always knew deep down inside something was wrong.

    Twilight Zone indeed.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Like we need Eric fucking Snowden to tell us the indictment is on the DOJ website. And if such an insignificant charge, show up in court and get off. I’m sure there’s a bevy of ACLU or other attorneys that will represent pro bono. Maybe Snowden is lonely in  Moscow?
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  • pjhawks
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    dignin said:
    So apparently peoples perceptions of others has to stay static forever, no matter what comes to light.

    I guess none of you liked Bill Cosby, Louis C.K, Kevin Spacey, OJ Simpson or anyone like that at any period of time. I guess you always knew deep down inside something was wrong.

    Twilight Zone indeed.
    the difference is people applauded what Assange was doing when it suited their needs. no one every applauded Cosby, Louis C.K or Kevin Spacey for sexual assault and no one applauded OJ for being a murderer.  Assange from the beginning was being applauded for dealing with stolen documents.