Julian Assange Arrested.
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And why would I have missed that?my2hands said:
I was not quoting you or dignin to challenge you, i was doing it to show Spiritual that people said they flipped on him because of the allegations, which apparently he miseed in this threadjeffbr said:
You forgot to list my 2nd reason. I'm not putting all of my eggs in the rapist basket. This guy was a freedom of information fighter and I appreciated and supported that. Transparency in govt and all that. But the allegations against him in Sweden were significant in terms of the way I thought about him, and he clearly was involved at some level with Russia (and some of Trump's campaign), working in a way that appeared to be aiding Russia in their meddling with the 2016 US elections. So yes, my opinion of the guy has changed. If your's hasn't, perhaps you need to figure out why you are so rigid in your beliefs, even with changing data and circumstances.my2hands said:jeffbr said:
Raises hand. I've changed my opinion on Assange for 2 reasons 1) he's a fucking rapistdignin said:
Maybe some people departed the Assange bandwagon when he was accused of rape.pjhawks said:
the difference is people applauded what Assange was doing when it suited their needs. no one every applauded Cosby, Louis C.K or Kevin Spacey for sexual assault and no one applauded OJ for being a murderer. Assange from the beginning was being applauded for dealing with stolen documents.dignin said:So apparently peoples perceptions of others has to stay static forever, no matter what comes to light.
I guess none of you liked Bill Cosby, Louis C.K, Kevin Spacey, OJ Simpson or anyone like that at any period of time. I guess you always knew deep down inside something was wrong.
Twilight Zone indeed.
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So should the NSA, CIA, FBI all be arrested too? Just ironic we can arrest people for doing what our government does to other countries.CM189191 said:
nm...found itCM189191 said:Meltdown99 said:
Bullshit...they are political charges. The US is getting Just as corrupt as the banana republics you go to war with every few years...take of your star spangled glasses. You like your government spying on you...home of the free my ass. Home of the corrupt is more like it.Halifax2TheMax said:
No, they’re criminal charges. But I’d be fine with having him stand trial in Sweden, serve his time if convicted and then face extradition to the US to face trial.Meltdown99 said:He should answer to the Swedish charges. The US charges are just political charges and he’s about to become a political prisoner. The US is one corrupt country that this guy, Chelsea Manning and Snowden has exposed them as...
anyone who exposes corruption within government is fine with me...
Seems you know something the rest of us don't. What are the US charges levied against Assange?
Because I haven't seen that published anywhere. Do tell....
https://www.justice.gov/usao-edva/pr/wikileaks-founder-charged-computer-hacking-conspiracy
"federal charge of conspiracy to commit computer intrusion for agreeing to break a password to a classified U.S. government computer.According to court documents unsealed today, the charge relates to Assange’s alleged role in one of the largest compromises of classified information in the history of the United States.
The indictment alleges that in March 2010, Assange engaged in a conspiracy with Chelsea Manning, a former intelligence analyst in the U.S. Army, to assist Manning in cracking a password stored on U.S. Department of Defense computers"
Does not sound political. Sounds like an enemy combatant.
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Exactly. Apparently, Americans are OK with being paranoid about other foreign countries, but when it comes to their own country spying on their own people, reporting the truth about some of the incidence that killed many innocents in their BS war in the middle east...that's classified, when in reality it's a coverup.bootlegger10 said:
So should the NSA, CIA, FBI all be arrested too? Just ironic we can arrest people for doing what our government does to other countries.CM189191 said:
nm...found itCM189191 said:Meltdown99 said:
Bullshit...they are political charges. The US is getting Just as corrupt as the banana republics you go to war with every few years...take of your star spangled glasses. You like your government spying on you...home of the free my ass. Home of the corrupt is more like it.Halifax2TheMax said:
No, they’re criminal charges. But I’d be fine with having him stand trial in Sweden, serve his time if convicted and then face extradition to the US to face trial.Meltdown99 said:He should answer to the Swedish charges. The US charges are just political charges and he’s about to become a political prisoner. The US is one corrupt country that this guy, Chelsea Manning and Snowden has exposed them as...
anyone who exposes corruption within government is fine with me...
Seems you know something the rest of us don't. What are the US charges levied against Assange?
Because I haven't seen that published anywhere. Do tell....
https://www.justice.gov/usao-edva/pr/wikileaks-founder-charged-computer-hacking-conspiracy
"federal charge of conspiracy to commit computer intrusion for agreeing to break a password to a classified U.S. government computer.According to court documents unsealed today, the charge relates to Assange’s alleged role in one of the largest compromises of classified information in the history of the United States.
The indictment alleges that in March 2010, Assange engaged in a conspiracy with Chelsea Manning, a former intelligence analyst in the U.S. Army, to assist Manning in cracking a password stored on U.S. Department of Defense computers"
Does not sound political. Sounds like an enemy combatant.
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That’s an odd comparison. Governments are generally seen as having different powers and legal standing than private citizens in all sorts of matters.bootlegger10 said:
So should the NSA, CIA, FBI all be arrested too? Just ironic we can arrest people for doing what our government does to other countries.CM189191 said:
nm...found itCM189191 said:Meltdown99 said:
Bullshit...they are political charges. The US is getting Just as corrupt as the banana republics you go to war with every few years...take of your star spangled glasses. You like your government spying on you...home of the free my ass. Home of the corrupt is more like it.Halifax2TheMax said:
No, they’re criminal charges. But I’d be fine with having him stand trial in Sweden, serve his time if convicted and then face extradition to the US to face trial.Meltdown99 said:He should answer to the Swedish charges. The US charges are just political charges and he’s about to become a political prisoner. The US is one corrupt country that this guy, Chelsea Manning and Snowden has exposed them as...
anyone who exposes corruption within government is fine with me...
Seems you know something the rest of us don't. What are the US charges levied against Assange?
Because I haven't seen that published anywhere. Do tell....
https://www.justice.gov/usao-edva/pr/wikileaks-founder-charged-computer-hacking-conspiracy
"federal charge of conspiracy to commit computer intrusion for agreeing to break a password to a classified U.S. government computer.According to court documents unsealed today, the charge relates to Assange’s alleged role in one of the largest compromises of classified information in the history of the United States.
The indictment alleges that in March 2010, Assange engaged in a conspiracy with Chelsea Manning, a former intelligence analyst in the U.S. Army, to assist Manning in cracking a password stored on U.S. Department of Defense computers"
Does not sound political. Sounds like an enemy combatant.
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Arrest everyone at google too?bootlegger10 said:
So should the NSA, CIA, FBI all be arrested too? Just ironic we can arrest people for doing what our government does to other countries.CM189191 said:
nm...found itCM189191 said:Meltdown99 said:
Bullshit...they are political charges. The US is getting Just as corrupt as the banana republics you go to war with every few years...take of your star spangled glasses. You like your government spying on you...home of the free my ass. Home of the corrupt is more like it.Halifax2TheMax said:
No, they’re criminal charges. But I’d be fine with having him stand trial in Sweden, serve his time if convicted and then face extradition to the US to face trial.Meltdown99 said:He should answer to the Swedish charges. The US charges are just political charges and he’s about to become a political prisoner. The US is one corrupt country that this guy, Chelsea Manning and Snowden has exposed them as...
anyone who exposes corruption within government is fine with me...
Seems you know something the rest of us don't. What are the US charges levied against Assange?
Because I haven't seen that published anywhere. Do tell....
https://www.justice.gov/usao-edva/pr/wikileaks-founder-charged-computer-hacking-conspiracy
"federal charge of conspiracy to commit computer intrusion for agreeing to break a password to a classified U.S. government computer.According to court documents unsealed today, the charge relates to Assange’s alleged role in one of the largest compromises of classified information in the history of the United States.
The indictment alleges that in March 2010, Assange engaged in a conspiracy with Chelsea Manning, a former intelligence analyst in the U.S. Army, to assist Manning in cracking a password stored on U.S. Department of Defense computers"
Does not sound political. Sounds like an enemy combatant.
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bootlegger10 said:
So should the NSA, CIA, FBI all be arrested too? Just ironic we can arrest people for doing what our government does to other countries.CM189191 said:
nm...found itCM189191 said:Meltdown99 said:
Bullshit...they are political charges. The US is getting Just as corrupt as the banana republics you go to war with every few years...take of your star spangled glasses. You like your government spying on you...home of the free my ass. Home of the corrupt is more like it.Halifax2TheMax said:
No, they’re criminal charges. But I’d be fine with having him stand trial in Sweden, serve his time if convicted and then face extradition to the US to face trial.Meltdown99 said:He should answer to the Swedish charges. The US charges are just political charges and he’s about to become a political prisoner. The US is one corrupt country that this guy, Chelsea Manning and Snowden has exposed them as...
anyone who exposes corruption within government is fine with me...
Seems you know something the rest of us don't. What are the US charges levied against Assange?
Because I haven't seen that published anywhere. Do tell....
https://www.justice.gov/usao-edva/pr/wikileaks-founder-charged-computer-hacking-conspiracy
"federal charge of conspiracy to commit computer intrusion for agreeing to break a password to a classified U.S. government computer.According to court documents unsealed today, the charge relates to Assange’s alleged role in one of the largest compromises of classified information in the history of the United States.
The indictment alleges that in March 2010, Assange engaged in a conspiracy with Chelsea Manning, a former intelligence analyst in the U.S. Army, to assist Manning in cracking a password stored on U.S. Department of Defense computers"
Does not sound political. Sounds like an enemy combatant.
might have been different had wiki not uploaded EVERYTHING in their possession from theft.Once caught Manning owned her actions and was accountable for those actions. Fuckwit doesnt seem to have it in him._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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If someone brakes into a safe takes a document and hands it over to a reporter to publish the reporter is not a criminal for it , but if the reporter gives the combo to criminal to open the safe that’s conspiring to a crime ...jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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Assange is criminally liable because he helped in the process of braking into computers to steal private info ! That’s a crime no ?jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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I'll always side with the person who exposes government corruption and coverups. I'll answer your question with a question... "is it a crime to be in possession of stolen files and information that the government obtained through sketchy practices"?josevolution said:Assange is criminally liable because he helped in the process of braking into computers to steal private info ! That’s a crime no ?Give Peas A Chance…0 -
Like secretly mass spying and recording communications of innocent unknowing citizens for decades?oftenreading said:
That’s an odd comparison. Governments are generally seen as having different powers and legal standing than private citizens in all sorts of matters.bootlegger10 said:
So should the NSA, CIA, FBI all be arrested too? Just ironic we can arrest people for doing what our government does to other countries.CM189191 said:
nm...found itCM189191 said:Meltdown99 said:
Bullshit...they are political charges. The US is getting Just as corrupt as the banana republics you go to war with every few years...take of your star spangled glasses. You like your government spying on you...home of the free my ass. Home of the corrupt is more like it.Halifax2TheMax said:
No, they’re criminal charges. But I’d be fine with having him stand trial in Sweden, serve his time if convicted and then face extradition to the US to face trial.Meltdown99 said:He should answer to the Swedish charges. The US charges are just political charges and he’s about to become a political prisoner. The US is one corrupt country that this guy, Chelsea Manning and Snowden has exposed them as...
anyone who exposes corruption within government is fine with me...
Seems you know something the rest of us don't. What are the US charges levied against Assange?
Because I haven't seen that published anywhere. Do tell....
https://www.justice.gov/usao-edva/pr/wikileaks-founder-charged-computer-hacking-conspiracy
"federal charge of conspiracy to commit computer intrusion for agreeing to break a password to a classified U.S. government computer.According to court documents unsealed today, the charge relates to Assange’s alleged role in one of the largest compromises of classified information in the history of the United States.
The indictment alleges that in March 2010, Assange engaged in a conspiracy with Chelsea Manning, a former intelligence analyst in the U.S. Army, to assist Manning in cracking a password stored on U.S. Department of Defense computers"
Does not sound political. Sounds like an enemy combatant.
You guys probably think Edward Snowden is a traitor that should be thrown in a cell? Lol
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That’s not what this is about thought it’s about him and yes I’d say yes to your ? I’ll ask again if you gave the combination to your neighbors house to a thief are you complicit?Meltdown99 said:
I'll always side with the person who exposes government corruption and coverups. I'll answer your question with a question... "is it a crime to be in possession of stolen files and information that the government obtained through sketchy practices"?josevolution said:Assange is criminally liable because he helped in the process of braking into computers to steal private info ! That’s a crime no ?jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
Do you really believe she accepted accountability? If that's the case why is she sitting in a jail cell since early March refusing to answer questions in front of a grand jury?mickeyrat said:bootlegger10 said:
So should the NSA, CIA, FBI all be arrested too? Just ironic we can arrest people for doing what our government does to other countries.CM189191 said:
nm...found itCM189191 said:Meltdown99 said:
Bullshit...they are political charges. The US is getting Just as corrupt as the banana republics you go to war with every few years...take of your star spangled glasses. You like your government spying on you...home of the free my ass. Home of the corrupt is more like it.Halifax2TheMax said:
No, they’re criminal charges. But I’d be fine with having him stand trial in Sweden, serve his time if convicted and then face extradition to the US to face trial.Meltdown99 said:He should answer to the Swedish charges. The US charges are just political charges and he’s about to become a political prisoner. The US is one corrupt country that this guy, Chelsea Manning and Snowden has exposed them as...
anyone who exposes corruption within government is fine with me...
Seems you know something the rest of us don't. What are the US charges levied against Assange?
Because I haven't seen that published anywhere. Do tell....
https://www.justice.gov/usao-edva/pr/wikileaks-founder-charged-computer-hacking-conspiracy
"federal charge of conspiracy to commit computer intrusion for agreeing to break a password to a classified U.S. government computer.According to court documents unsealed today, the charge relates to Assange’s alleged role in one of the largest compromises of classified information in the history of the United States.
The indictment alleges that in March 2010, Assange engaged in a conspiracy with Chelsea Manning, a former intelligence analyst in the U.S. Army, to assist Manning in cracking a password stored on U.S. Department of Defense computers"
Does not sound political. Sounds like an enemy combatant.
might have been different had wiki not uploaded EVERYTHING in their possession from theft.Once caught Manning owned her actions and was accountable for those actions. Fuckwit doesnt seem to have it in him.Give Peas A Chance…0 -
sure she has, for her case. for refusing regarding his, she is a damned fool.Meltdown99 said:
Do you really believe she accepted accountability? If that's the case why is she sitting in a jail cell since early March refusing to answer questions in front of a grand jury?mickeyrat said:bootlegger10 said:
So should the NSA, CIA, FBI all be arrested too? Just ironic we can arrest people for doing what our government does to other countries.CM189191 said:
nm...found itCM189191 said:Meltdown99 said:
Bullshit...they are political charges. The US is getting Just as corrupt as the banana republics you go to war with every few years...take of your star spangled glasses. You like your government spying on you...home of the free my ass. Home of the corrupt is more like it.Halifax2TheMax said:
No, they’re criminal charges. But I’d be fine with having him stand trial in Sweden, serve his time if convicted and then face extradition to the US to face trial.Meltdown99 said:He should answer to the Swedish charges. The US charges are just political charges and he’s about to become a political prisoner. The US is one corrupt country that this guy, Chelsea Manning and Snowden has exposed them as...
anyone who exposes corruption within government is fine with me...
Seems you know something the rest of us don't. What are the US charges levied against Assange?
Because I haven't seen that published anywhere. Do tell....
https://www.justice.gov/usao-edva/pr/wikileaks-founder-charged-computer-hacking-conspiracy
"federal charge of conspiracy to commit computer intrusion for agreeing to break a password to a classified U.S. government computer.According to court documents unsealed today, the charge relates to Assange’s alleged role in one of the largest compromises of classified information in the history of the United States.
The indictment alleges that in March 2010, Assange engaged in a conspiracy with Chelsea Manning, a former intelligence analyst in the U.S. Army, to assist Manning in cracking a password stored on U.S. Department of Defense computers"
Does not sound political. Sounds like an enemy combatant.
might have been different had wiki not uploaded EVERYTHING in their possession from theft.Once caught Manning owned her actions and was accountable for those actions. Fuckwit doesnt seem to have it in him.
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Julian Assange Sentenced to 50 Weeks in British Prison
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I am on the fence with this guy.
Some people say the rape charges are false accusations just to get him extradited to the US and some people say they are true accusations.
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one, give the victims the benefit of the doubt to start. investigate thoroughly and if charges can be sustained, believe a jury or a judge after trial.Thoughts_Arrive said:I am on the fence with this guy.
Some people say the rape charges are false accusations just to get him extradited to the US and some people say they are true accusations.
Who to believe?
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Yeah I agree. Always made me doubt him when he didn't want to face trial but then I was thinking if the accusations are false then I understand why he sought refuge in the Ecuadorian embassy.mickeyrat said:
one, give the victims the benefit of the doubt to start. investigate thoroughly and if charges can be sustained, believe a jury or a judge after trial.Thoughts_Arrive said:I am on the fence with this guy.
Some people say the rape charges are false accusations just to get him extradited to the US and some people say they are true accusations.
Who to believe?Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/20140 -
further, extradition isnt guaranteed. A possibility yes. Even probable. but not a dead cert.Thoughts_Arrive said:
Yeah I agree. Always made me doubt him when he didn't want to face trial but then I was thinking if the accusations are false then I understand why he sought refuge in the Ecuadorian embassy.mickeyrat said:
one, give the victims the benefit of the doubt to start. investigate thoroughly and if charges can be sustained, believe a jury or a judge after trial.Thoughts_Arrive said:I am on the fence with this guy.
Some people say the rape charges are false accusations just to get him extradited to the US and some people say they are true accusations.
Who to believe?
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... take a guess...Thoughts_Arrive said:I am on the fence with this guy.
Some people say the rape charges are false accusations just to get him extradited to the US and some people say they are true accusations.
Who to believe?"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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