2020 Tour Rumor Thread
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Any show is a cash cow with all the merch they sell. But 50,000 fans a day is more of a cash cow than MSG no matter how you do the math.Lerxst1992 said:Get_Right said:
They can milk the festivals with or without an album.Brisk. said:
I dont think they will release an album and and not milk the european festivals like they have been doing the last decade.DFBrooks said:Four week fall tour 2019 USA
Album in 2020 with an extensive tour USA and Australia.
2021 S America
Yet there is more milk undrunk in the MSG Cash Cow and it even has reasonable proximity to an ocean, unlike most euro fests.
I thought Pearl Jambi loved oceans?
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Get_Right said:
Any show is a cash cow with all the merch they sell. But 50,000 fans a day is more of a cash cow than MSG no matter how you do the math.Lerxst1992 said:Get_Right said:
They can milk the festivals with or without an album.Brisk. said:
I dont think they will release an album and and not milk the european festivals like they have been doing the last decade.DFBrooks said:Four week fall tour 2019 USA
Album in 2020 with an extensive tour USA and Australia.
2021 S America
Yet there is more milk undrunk in the MSG Cash Cow and it even has reasonable proximity to an ocean, unlike most euro fests.
I thought Pearl Jambi loved oceans?
Not if you price tickets at fair value. A 200 ave price for an act this popular and rare is reasonable and there's no way they are generating a $4M gross at festivals with all the acts needed to share the fest stage imo.0 -
Before the pro fest crowd slams my comment, here is an interesting take on the mother of all fests:
"They were initially told by Spring- steen’s agent that they couldn’t afford him but the Boss relented after being sent a dossier about the festival’s history and donations to good causes.The power of Glastonbury had worked its magic again."
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Damn, nice seat right in between McLeod and Epstein!given2fly23 said:
Haha, he's just a kid who wants a league ball.
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I suppose if they charged $200 a ticket they could match or exceed their festival payday, not taking merch into consideration. I think they get paid 2m for a festival set. But I don't know that for sure. But what makes MSG different from any other major city that they sell out?Lerxst1992 said:Get_Right said:
Any show is a cash cow with all the merch they sell. But 50,000 fans a day is more of a cash cow than MSG no matter how you do the math.Lerxst1992 said:Get_Right said:
They can milk the festivals with or without an album.Brisk. said:
I dont think they will release an album and and not milk the european festivals like they have been doing the last decade.DFBrooks said:Four week fall tour 2019 USA
Album in 2020 with an extensive tour USA and Australia.
2021 S America
Yet there is more milk undrunk in the MSG Cash Cow and it even has reasonable proximity to an ocean, unlike most euro fests.
I thought Pearl Jambi loved oceans?
Not if you price tickets at fair value. A 200 ave price for an act this popular and rare is reasonable and there's no way they are generating a $4M gross at festivals with all the acts needed to share the fest stage imo.
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Agreed. I don't know why so many seem to think they are ONLY going to play baseball stadiums from now on. That's just asinine.given2fly23 said:I don't assume that stadiums will be the norm. It makes sense for non-album/tour years, but if they're doing a full arena tour, stadiums don't make as much sense. As someone said above, the stadiums were "events."
Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 250 -
Get_Right said:
I suppose if they charged $200 a ticket they could match or exceed their festival payday, not taking merch into consideration. I think they get paid 2m for a festival set. But I don't know that for sure. But what makes MSG different from any other major city that they sell out?Lerxst1992 said:Get_Right said:
Any show is a cash cow with all the merch they sell. But 50,000 fans a day is more of a cash cow than MSG no matter how you do the math.Lerxst1992 said:Get_Right said:
They can milk the festivals with or without an album.Brisk. said:
I dont think they will release an album and and not milk the european festivals like they have been doing the last decade.DFBrooks said:Four week fall tour 2019 USA
Album in 2020 with an extensive tour USA and Australia.
2021 S America
Yet there is more milk undrunk in the MSG Cash Cow and it even has reasonable proximity to an ocean, unlike most euro fests.
I thought Pearl Jambi loved oceans?
Not if you price tickets at fair value. A 200 ave price for an act this popular and rare is reasonable and there's no way they are generating a $4M gross at festivals with all the acts needed to share the fest stage imo.
60 million live within a 4 hour drive of MSG. No other place in the US comes close to that. And the ocean is nearby.
Getting MSG Tickets is a nearly impossible experience, even when fans have a 20 arena show itinerary to choose from. The demand there is unparalleled. They can charge the highest prices here and draw the most fans.
I put up an interesting Springstten/Glastonbury comment about fest economics. Bruce had to be convinced to play there for its culture, not moneyPost edited by Lerxst1992 on0 -
I'm going to say the real world radius of driving to the heart of Manhattan in 4 hours is going to shrink that number considerably.Lerxst1992 said:Get_Right said:
I suppose if they charged $200 a ticket they could match or exceed their festival payday, not taking merch into consideration. I think they get paid 2m for a festival set. But I don't know that for sure. But what makes MSG different from any other major city that they sell out?Lerxst1992 said:Get_Right said:
Any show is a cash cow with all the merch they sell. But 50,000 fans a day is more of a cash cow than MSG no matter how you do the math.Lerxst1992 said:Get_Right said:
They can milk the festivals with or without an album.Brisk. said:
I dont think they will release an album and and not milk the european festivals like they have been doing the last decade.DFBrooks said:Four week fall tour 2019 USA
Album in 2020 with an extensive tour USA and Australia.
2021 S America
Yet there is more milk undrunk in the MSG Cash Cow and it even has reasonable proximity to an ocean, unlike most euro fests.
I thought Pearl Jambi loved oceans?
Not if you price tickets at fair value. A 200 ave price for an act this popular and rare is reasonable and there's no way they are generating a $4M gross at festivals with all the acts needed to share the fest stage imo.
60 million live within a 4 hour drive of MSG. No other place in the US comes close to that. And the ocean is nearby.
Getting MSG Tickets is a nearly impossible experience, even when fans have a 20 arena show itinerary to choose from. The demand there is unparalleled. They can charge the highest prices here and draw the most fans.
I put up an interesting Springstten/Glastonbury comment about fest economics. Bruce had to be convinced to play there for its culture, not money0 -
pjl44 said:
I'm going to say the real world radius of driving to the heart of Manhattan in 4 hours is going to shrink that number considerably.Lerxst1992 said:Get_Right said:
I suppose if they charged $200 a ticket they could match or exceed their festival payday, not taking merch into consideration. I think they get paid 2m for a festival set. But I don't know that for sure. But what makes MSG different from any other major city that they sell out?Lerxst1992 said:Get_Right said:
Any show is a cash cow with all the merch they sell. But 50,000 fans a day is more of a cash cow than MSG no matter how you do the math.Lerxst1992 said:Get_Right said:
They can milk the festivals with or without an album.Brisk. said:
I dont think they will release an album and and not milk the european festivals like they have been doing the last decade.DFBrooks said:Four week fall tour 2019 USA
Album in 2020 with an extensive tour USA and Australia.
2021 S America
Yet there is more milk undrunk in the MSG Cash Cow and it even has reasonable proximity to an ocean, unlike most euro fests.
I thought Pearl Jambi loved oceans?
Not if you price tickets at fair value. A 200 ave price for an act this popular and rare is reasonable and there's no way they are generating a $4M gross at festivals with all the acts needed to share the fest stage imo.
60 million live within a 4 hour drive of MSG. No other place in the US comes close to that. And the ocean is nearby.
Getting MSG Tickets is a nearly impossible experience, even when fans have a 20 arena show itinerary to choose from. The demand there is unparalleled. They can charge the highest prices here and draw the most fans.
I put up an interesting Springstten/Glastonbury comment about fest economics. Bruce had to be convinced to play there for its culture, not money
You'd be surprised how bad traffic is in any eastern metro area. NY is closer to many more cities than Boston and our arenas and stadiums are from this century.0 -
Nobody thinks it will be Stadiums only... but they will continue to become more of the norm, especially in certain marketsHesCalledDyer said:
Agreed. I don't know why so many seem to think they are ONLY going to play baseball stadiums from now on. That's just asinine.given2fly23 said:I don't assume that stadiums will be the norm. It makes sense for non-album/tour years, but if they're doing a full arena tour, stadiums don't make as much sense. As someone said above, the stadiums were "events."
When is the last time they played an arena/ampitheater in Chicago? 13 years ago?0 -
Ten but close enough.my2hands said:
Nobody thinks it will be Stadiums only... but they will continue to become more of the norm, especially in certain marketsHesCalledDyer said:
Agreed. I don't know why so many seem to think they are ONLY going to play baseball stadiums from now on. That's just asinine.given2fly23 said:I don't assume that stadiums will be the norm. It makes sense for non-album/tour years, but if they're doing a full arena tour, stadiums don't make as much sense. As someone said above, the stadiums were "events."
When is the last time they played an arena/ampitheater in Chicago? 13 years ago?0 -
Gotta be the longest drought ever in the nyc area for a pj concert. (And rock and roll hall of fame doesn’t count in my book).my2hands said:
Nobody thinks it will be Stadiums only... but they will continue to become more of the norm, especially in certain marketsHesCalledDyer said:
Agreed. I don't know why so many seem to think they are ONLY going to play baseball stadiums from now on. That's just asinine.given2fly23 said:I don't assume that stadiums will be the norm. It makes sense for non-album/tour years, but if they're doing a full arena tour, stadiums don't make as much sense. As someone said above, the stadiums were "events."
When is the last time they played an arena/ampitheater in Chicago? 13 years ago?I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
^ I believe ‘09. Too long.0
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This was a year and a half before I ever even knew Westeros existed! And auncw then, soooo much has happened!Ray J. T. said:"A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory0 -
I enjoyed the vibe at Wrigley/Wrigleyville far more than the United Center.bbiggs said:^ I believe ‘09. Too long.To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
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I don’t think a Non-Wrigley Chicago show will ever happen again unless it’s a Lolla show on an off year
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