2020 Tour Rumor Thread

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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,146
    Get_Right said:
    Brisk. said:
    DFBrooks said:
    Four week fall tour 2019 USA
    Album in 2020 with an extensive tour USA and Australia.
    2021 S America 
    I dont think they will release an album and and not milk the european festivals like they have been doing the last decade.
    They can milk the festivals with or without an album.

    Yet there is more milk undrunk in the MSG Cash Cow and it even has reasonable proximity to an ocean, unlike most euro fests. 

    I thought Pearl Jambi loved oceans?


     
    Any show is a cash cow with all the merch they sell.  But 50,000 fans a day is more of a cash cow than MSG no matter how you do the math.
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,999
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Brisk. said:
    DFBrooks said:
    Four week fall tour 2019 USA
    Album in 2020 with an extensive tour USA and Australia.
    2021 S America 
    I dont think they will release an album and and not milk the european festivals like they have been doing the last decade.
    They can milk the festivals with or without an album.

    Yet there is more milk undrunk in the MSG Cash Cow and it even has reasonable proximity to an ocean, unlike most euro fests. 

    I thought Pearl Jambi loved oceans?


     
    Any show is a cash cow with all the merch they sell.  But 50,000 fans a day is more of a cash cow than MSG no matter how you do the math.

    Not if you price tickets at fair value. A 200 ave price for an act this popular and rare is reasonable and there's no way they are generating a $4M gross at festivals with all the acts needed to share the fest stage imo.
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,999
    Before the pro fest crowd slams my comment, here is an interesting take on the mother of all fests:


    "They were initially told by Spring- steen’s agent that they couldn’t  afford him but the Boss relented  after being sent a dossier about the festival’s history and donations to good causes.

    The power of Glastonbury had worked its magic again."

  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,492

    Haha, he's just a kid who wants a league ball. 

    Damn, nice seat right in between McLeod and Epstein!
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,146
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Brisk. said:
    DFBrooks said:
    Four week fall tour 2019 USA
    Album in 2020 with an extensive tour USA and Australia.
    2021 S America 
    I dont think they will release an album and and not milk the european festivals like they have been doing the last decade.
    They can milk the festivals with or without an album.

    Yet there is more milk undrunk in the MSG Cash Cow and it even has reasonable proximity to an ocean, unlike most euro fests. 

    I thought Pearl Jambi loved oceans?


     
    Any show is a cash cow with all the merch they sell.  But 50,000 fans a day is more of a cash cow than MSG no matter how you do the math.

    Not if you price tickets at fair value. A 200 ave price for an act this popular and rare is reasonable and there's no way they are generating a $4M gross at festivals with all the acts needed to share the fest stage imo.
    I suppose if they charged $200 a ticket they could match or exceed their festival payday, not taking merch into consideration. I think they get paid 2m for a festival set. But I don't know that for sure. But what makes MSG different from any other major city that they sell out?

  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,492
    I don't assume that stadiums will be the norm. It makes sense for non-album/tour years, but if they're doing a full arena tour, stadiums don't make as much sense. As someone said above, the stadiums were "events."

    Agreed. I don't know why so many seem to think they are ONLY going to play baseball stadiums from now on.  That's just asinine.
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,999
    edited May 2019
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Brisk. said:
    DFBrooks said:
    Four week fall tour 2019 USA
    Album in 2020 with an extensive tour USA and Australia.
    2021 S America 
    I dont think they will release an album and and not milk the european festivals like they have been doing the last decade.
    They can milk the festivals with or without an album.

    Yet there is more milk undrunk in the MSG Cash Cow and it even has reasonable proximity to an ocean, unlike most euro fests. 

    I thought Pearl Jambi loved oceans?


     
    Any show is a cash cow with all the merch they sell.  But 50,000 fans a day is more of a cash cow than MSG no matter how you do the math.

    Not if you price tickets at fair value. A 200 ave price for an act this popular and rare is reasonable and there's no way they are generating a $4M gross at festivals with all the acts needed to share the fest stage imo.
    I suppose if they charged $200 a ticket they could match or exceed their festival payday, not taking merch into consideration. I think they get paid 2m for a festival set. But I don't know that for sure. But what makes MSG different from any other major city that they sell out?



    60 million live within a 4 hour drive of MSG. No other place in the US comes close to that. And the ocean is nearby.

    Getting MSG Tickets is a nearly impossible experience, even when fans have a 20 arena show itinerary to choose from. The demand there is unparalleled. They can charge the highest prices here and draw the most fans.

    I put up an interesting Springstten/Glastonbury comment about fest economics. Bruce had to be convinced to play there for its culture, not money
    Post edited by Lerxst1992 on
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,558
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Brisk. said:
    DFBrooks said:
    Four week fall tour 2019 USA
    Album in 2020 with an extensive tour USA and Australia.
    2021 S America 
    I dont think they will release an album and and not milk the european festivals like they have been doing the last decade.
    They can milk the festivals with or without an album.

    Yet there is more milk undrunk in the MSG Cash Cow and it even has reasonable proximity to an ocean, unlike most euro fests. 

    I thought Pearl Jambi loved oceans?


     
    Any show is a cash cow with all the merch they sell.  But 50,000 fans a day is more of a cash cow than MSG no matter how you do the math.

    Not if you price tickets at fair value. A 200 ave price for an act this popular and rare is reasonable and there's no way they are generating a $4M gross at festivals with all the acts needed to share the fest stage imo.
    I suppose if they charged $200 a ticket they could match or exceed their festival payday, not taking merch into consideration. I think they get paid 2m for a festival set. But I don't know that for sure. But what makes MSG different from any other major city that they sell out?



    60 million live within a 4 hour drive of MSG. No other place in the US comes close to that. And the ocean is nearby.

    Getting MSG Tickets is a nearly impossible experience, even when fans have a 20 arena show itinerary to choose from. The demand there is unparalleled. They can charge the highest prices here and draw the most fans.

    I put up an interesting Springstten/Glastonbury comment about fest economics. Bruce had to be convinced to play there for its culture, not money
    I'm going to say the real world radius of driving to the heart of Manhattan in 4 hours is going to shrink that number considerably.
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,999
    pjl44 said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Brisk. said:
    DFBrooks said:
    Four week fall tour 2019 USA
    Album in 2020 with an extensive tour USA and Australia.
    2021 S America 
    I dont think they will release an album and and not milk the european festivals like they have been doing the last decade.
    They can milk the festivals with or without an album.

    Yet there is more milk undrunk in the MSG Cash Cow and it even has reasonable proximity to an ocean, unlike most euro fests. 

    I thought Pearl Jambi loved oceans?


     
    Any show is a cash cow with all the merch they sell.  But 50,000 fans a day is more of a cash cow than MSG no matter how you do the math.

    Not if you price tickets at fair value. A 200 ave price for an act this popular and rare is reasonable and there's no way they are generating a $4M gross at festivals with all the acts needed to share the fest stage imo.
    I suppose if they charged $200 a ticket they could match or exceed their festival payday, not taking merch into consideration. I think they get paid 2m for a festival set. But I don't know that for sure. But what makes MSG different from any other major city that they sell out?



    60 million live within a 4 hour drive of MSG. No other place in the US comes close to that. And the ocean is nearby.

    Getting MSG Tickets is a nearly impossible experience, even when fans have a 20 arena show itinerary to choose from. The demand there is unparalleled. They can charge the highest prices here and draw the most fans.

    I put up an interesting Springstten/Glastonbury comment about fest economics. Bruce had to be convinced to play there for its culture, not money
    I'm going to say the real world radius of driving to the heart of Manhattan in 4 hours is going to shrink that number considerably.


    You'd be surprised how bad traffic is in any eastern metro area. NY is closer to many more cities than Boston and our arenas and stadiums are from this century.  
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    I don't assume that stadiums will be the norm. It makes sense for non-album/tour years, but if they're doing a full arena tour, stadiums don't make as much sense. As someone said above, the stadiums were "events."

    Agreed. I don't know why so many seem to think they are ONLY going to play baseball stadiums from now on.  That's just asinine.
    Nobody thinks it will be Stadiums only... but they will continue to become more of the norm, especially in certain markets

    When is the last time they played an arena/ampitheater in Chicago? 13 years ago? 
  • rummy
    rummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,466
    edited May 2019
    my2hands said:
    I don't assume that stadiums will be the norm. It makes sense for non-album/tour years, but if they're doing a full arena tour, stadiums don't make as much sense. As someone said above, the stadiums were "events."

    Agreed. I don't know why so many seem to think they are ONLY going to play baseball stadiums from now on.  That's just asinine.
    Nobody thinks it will be Stadiums only... but they will continue to become more of the norm, especially in certain markets

    When is the last time they played an arena/ampitheater in Chicago? 13 years ago? 
    Ten but close enough.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,135
    my2hands said:
    I don't assume that stadiums will be the norm. It makes sense for non-album/tour years, but if they're doing a full arena tour, stadiums don't make as much sense. As someone said above, the stadiums were "events."

    Agreed. I don't know why so many seem to think they are ONLY going to play baseball stadiums from now on.  That's just asinine.
    Nobody thinks it will be Stadiums only... but they will continue to become more of the norm, especially in certain markets

    When is the last time they played an arena/ampitheater in Chicago? 13 years ago? 
    Gotta be the longest drought ever in the nyc area for a pj concert. (And rock and roll hall of fame doesn’t count in my book). 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
    ^ I believe ‘09. Too long. 
  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
    bbiggs said:
    ^ I believe ‘09. Too long. 
    For Chicago arena I meant. 
  • Ray J. T.
    Ray J. T. Posts: 4,130
    bbiggs said:
    ^ I believe ‘09. Too long. 
    bbiggs said:
    bbiggs said:
    ^ I believe ‘09. Too long. 
    For Chicago arena I meant. 
    Yes you would be correct, they played 2 nights in Chicago at the United Center in 2009. 

  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,389
    Ray J. T. said:
    bbiggs said:
    ^ I believe ‘09. Too long. 
    bbiggs said:
    bbiggs said:
    ^ I believe ‘09. Too long. 
    For Chicago arena I meant. 
    Yes you would be correct, they played 2 nights in Chicago at the United Center in 2009. 

    This was a year and a half before I ever even knew Westeros existed! And auncw then, soooo much has happened! 
    "A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory
  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,327
    bbiggs said:
    ^ I believe ‘09. Too long. 
    I enjoyed the vibe at Wrigley/Wrigleyville far more than the United Center.
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

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  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,020
    I don’t think a Non-Wrigley Chicago show will ever happen again unless it’s a Lolla show on an off year
    2010: Cleveland
    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
    2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
    2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
    2023: St. Paul II
    2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,602
    100 Pacer said:
    bbiggs said:
    ^ I believe ‘09. Too long. 
    I enjoyed the vibe at Wrigley/Wrigleyville far more than the United Center.
    Wrigley in 2013 was magical. 
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  • Ray J. T.
    Ray J. T. Posts: 4,130
    100 Pacer said:
    bbiggs said:
    ^ I believe ‘09. Too long. 
    I enjoyed the vibe at Wrigley/Wrigleyville far more than the United Center.
    Agreed. Same here.