Team Mueller (and Their Report)

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    It's so quiet in here.
    why the edit from the pic you posted?
    Damn my bad.  Can we finally move on?
    Collusion isn't the only item to be looked at. but yes, I think we can at least cross collusion of the list. 
    As legally defined to bring criminal charges.
    yeah, and?
    Congress may have a different opinion of whether "colluding" with a foreign power to throw an election, lie about it and attempt to obstruct justice rises to a "high crime & misdemeanor." 
    Just stop. 
    Stop what?
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,094
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    It's so quiet in here.
    why the edit from the pic you posted?
    Damn my bad.  Can we finally move on?
    Collusion isn't the only item to be looked at. but yes, I think we can at least cross collusion of the list. 
    As legally defined to bring criminal charges.
    yeah, and?
    Congress may have a different opinion of whether "colluding" with a foreign power to throw an election, lie about it and attempt to obstruct justice rises to a "high crime & misdemeanor." 
    Just stop. 
    Stop what?

    don't go on me
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,094
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    It's so quiet in here.
    why the edit from the pic you posted?
    Damn my bad.  Can we finally move on?


    You gotta be kidding.


     

    Don Jr and Jared Kushner 'DID break the law by meeting Russian national for dirt on Hillary, but did not know enough to realize their conduct was unlawful,' states Mueller Report


  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    It's so quiet in here.
    why the edit from the pic you posted?
    Damn my bad.  Can we finally move on?


    You gotta be kidding.


     

    Don Jr and Jared Kushner 'DID break the law by meeting Russian national for dirt on Hillary, but did not know enough to realize their conduct was unlawful,' states Mueller Report


    I thought ignorance of the law wasn't a defence? if that's true, why didn't he indict?
    Darwinspeed, all. 

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    HFD




  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,739
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    It's so quiet in here.
    why the edit from the pic you posted?
    Damn my bad.  Can we finally move on?


    You gotta be kidding.


     

    Don Jr and Jared Kushner 'DID break the law by meeting Russian national for dirt on Hillary, but did not know enough to realize their conduct was unlawful,' states Mueller Report


    I thought ignorance of the law wasn't a defence? if that's true, why didn't he indict?
    Bingo
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,786
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    It's so quiet in here.
    why the edit from the pic you posted?
    Damn my bad.  Can we finally move on?


    You gotta be kidding.


     

    Don Jr and Jared Kushner 'DID break the law by meeting Russian national for dirt on Hillary, but did not know enough to realize their conduct was unlawful,' states Mueller Report


    I thought ignorance of the law wasn't a defence? if that's true, why didn't he indict?
    Bingo

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  • njnancynjnancy Northern New Jersey Posts: 5,096
    CM189191 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    It's so quiet in here.
    why the edit from the pic you posted?
    Damn my bad.  Can we finally move on?


    You gotta be kidding.


     

    Don Jr and Jared Kushner 'DID break the law by meeting Russian national for dirt on Hillary, but did not know enough to realize their conduct was unlawful,' states Mueller Report


    I thought ignorance of the law wasn't a defence? if that's true, why didn't he indict?
    Bingo

    I don't know why the destruction and encryption of evidence was not a chargeable offense. 
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,712
    Here's a download link for anyone interested in reading the report: https://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2019/images/04/18/mueller-report-searchable.pdf

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    I have to say that the Team Mueller Report is very well written and reads like a Tom Clancy spy thriller. And boy were they in deep. Traitors.
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,867
    I have to say that the Team Mueller Report is very well written and reads like a Tom Clancy spy thriller. And boy were they in deep. Traitors.
    Aaron Sorkin/David Fincher future collab?
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Glad everybody is entertained
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 8,929
    my2hands said:
    Glad everybody is entertained
    Aren't you too? You're always on here with lols and lmaos to share, especially on this very topic. 
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,587
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    It's so quiet in here.
    why the edit from the pic you posted?
    Damn my bad.  Can we finally move on?
    Collusion isn't the only item to be looked at. but yes, I think we can at least cross collusion of the list. 
    As legally defined to bring criminal charges.
    yeah, and?
    Congress may have a different opinion of whether "colluding" with a foreign power to throw an election, lie about it and attempt to obstruct justice rises to a "high crime & misdemeanor." 
    Just stop. 
    Do you know what the threshold is for impeachment? 
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,739
    edited April 2019
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    It's so quiet in here.
    why the edit from the pic you posted?
    Damn my bad.  Can we finally move on?
    Collusion isn't the only item to be looked at. but yes, I think we can at least cross collusion of the list. 
    As legally defined to bring criminal charges.
    yeah, and?
    Congress may have a different opinion of whether "colluding" with a foreign power to throw an election, lie about it and attempt to obstruct justice rises to a "high crime & misdemeanor." 
    Just stop. 
    Do you know what the threshold is for impeachment? 
    Yeah I m almost positive  what it is but just for the hell of it why don’t you explain it to me using your own words. 
    Post edited by mcgruff10 on
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    For those wondering why black voter turnout was less for Hillary, read pages 14-25, and page 25 in particular, of the Team Mueller Report. Faceturd legal counsel testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee that Putin on the ritz reached 126 million Americans with fake posts and purported political groups through faceturd and Twitter. All it took was 88,000 votes in 3 key states. 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,410
    Interesting read....




    President Donald Trump at the Capitol (Source: Flickr/Official White House by Joyce N. Boghosian)

    Really the best day since he got elected,” said Kellyanne Conway, the president’s counselor, about a day on which 400 pages dropped into the public’s lap describing relentless presidential misconduct and serial engagements between his campaign and a foreign actor. The weeks-long lag between Attorney General William Barr’s announcement of Robert Mueller’s top-line findings and the release of the Mueller report itself created space for an alternate reality in which the document released today might give rise to such a statement. But the cries of vindication do not survive even the most cursory examination of the document itself.

    No, Mueller did not find a criminal conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia, and no, he did not conclude that President Trump had obstructed justice. But Mueller emphatically did not find that there had been “no collusion” either. Indeed, he described in page after damning page a dramatic pattern of Russian outreach to figures close to the president, including to Trump’s campaign and his business; Mueller described receptivity to this outreach on the part of those figures; he described a positive eagerness on the part of the Trump campaign to benefit from illegal Russian activity and that of its cutouts; he described serial lies about it all. And he described as well a pattern of behavior on the part of the president in his interactions with law enforcement that is simply incompatible with the president’s duty to “take care” that the laws are “faithfully executed”—a pattern Mueller explicitly declined to conclude did not obstruct justice.

    The Mueller report is a document this country will be absorbing for months to come. Below is a first crack at analyzing the features that are most salient to us.



    article continues....


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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    For those wondering why black voter turnout was less for Hillary, read pages 14-25, and page 25 in particular, of the Team Mueller Report. Faceturd legal counsel testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee that Putin on the ritz reached 126 million Americans with fake posts and purported political groups through faceturd and Twitter. All it took was 88,000 votes in 3 key states. 
    But voter turnout for every other demographic was a record high in 2016

    Nice try... memes and hashtags are still not why Hillary lost, but whatever helps you sleep at night i guess lol
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,821
    my2hands said:
    For those wondering why black voter turnout was less for Hillary, read pages 14-25, and page 25 in particular, of the Team Mueller Report. Faceturd legal counsel testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee that Putin on the ritz reached 126 million Americans with fake posts and purported political groups through faceturd and Twitter. All it took was 88,000 votes in 3 key states. 
    But voter turnout for every other demographic was a record high in 2016

    Nice try... memes and hashtags are still not why Hillary lost, but whatever helps you sleep at night i guess lol
    Maybe read the report first, to get a better sense of what happened?

    Black voter participation was specifically targeted. 
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,072
    my2hands said:
    For those wondering why black voter turnout was less for Hillary, read pages 14-25, and page 25 in particular, of the Team Mueller Report. Faceturd legal counsel testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee that Putin on the ritz reached 126 million Americans with fake posts and purported political groups through faceturd and Twitter. All it took was 88,000 votes in 3 key states. 
    But voter turnout for every other demographic was a record high in 2016

    Nice try... memes and hashtags are still not why Hillary lost, but whatever helps you sleep at night i guess lol
    Maybe read the report first, to get a better sense of what happened?

    Black voter participation was specifically targeted. 
    You know....if people are easily manipulated by social media like that... I don;t actually want them voting.  I wish those on the right that are so easily manipulated to believe in such BS wouldn't vote either.  

    The former government failed to protect the election.  The current government fails to protect the next election.  But still it takes a special kind of person to follow the ramblings on social media.  
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    my2hands said:
    For those wondering why black voter turnout was less for Hillary, read pages 14-25, and page 25 in particular, of the Team Mueller Report. Faceturd legal counsel testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee that Putin on the ritz reached 126 million Americans with fake posts and purported political groups through faceturd and Twitter. All it took was 88,000 votes in 3 key states. 
    But voter turnout for every other demographic was a record high in 2016

    Nice try... memes and hashtags are still not why Hillary lost, but whatever helps you sleep at night i guess lol
    Maybe read the report first, to get a better sense of what happened?

    Black voter participation was specifically targeted. 
    You know....if people are easily manipulated by social media like that... I don;t actually want them voting.  I wish those on the right that are so easily manipulated to believe in such BS wouldn't vote either.  

    The former government failed to protect the election.  The current government fails to protect the next election.  But still it takes a special kind of person to follow the ramblings on social media.  
    The ramblings on social media retweeted and linked by Team Trump Treason’s campaign and Donny Jr. and Jared Dear Boy. It takes a special kind of person and presidential candidate to spread propaganda. The stupid following the stupid, I guess?
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  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 8,929
    my2hands said:
    For those wondering why black voter turnout was less for Hillary, read pages 14-25, and page 25 in particular, of the Team Mueller Report. Faceturd legal counsel testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee that Putin on the ritz reached 126 million Americans with fake posts and purported political groups through faceturd and Twitter. All it took was 88,000 votes in 3 key states. 
    But voter turnout for every other demographic was a record high in 2016

    Nice try... memes and hashtags are still not why Hillary lost, but whatever helps you sleep at night i guess lol
    m2h, while I don't personally think the impact of Russia could've been greatly material (and I'm also probably in the minority in that I think if a country is collectively stupid enough to be swayed by nonsensical ads, they deserve the shitty future they receive for allowing the dumbing down of their society and standing by idly as it happens), you should know how trivial it would be for any modern company with 30 minutes of ad-buying experience to localize any behaviour to precisely the targeted region (which could very easily explain inconsistent trends). We're in retail for example, and we often allocate our ad spends to present more frequently to users whose IP addresses are closer to our targeted regions (where our stores are). This is pretty much standard practice at this point. Another standard practice in advertising is to hide or obfuscate your advertising patterns, so that people still feel they're engaging with humans rather than machines. This is a practice also standard, particularly with larger organizations with larger audiences than family-owned Canadian retailers. 

    What I'm saying is mostly an fyi to suggest those outcome phenomena are all explainable through Russian intervention, but I don't think it matters a great deal. I hope we focus more inwards on preventative education and developing critical thought and debate patterns in citizens, rather than naively thinking we can shut down undue thought influence in an era where everyone can communicate directly with everyone. The latter is a losing battle that American politicians seem vocal about winning. 
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,821
    my2hands said:
    For those wondering why black voter turnout was less for Hillary, read pages 14-25, and page 25 in particular, of the Team Mueller Report. Faceturd legal counsel testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee that Putin on the ritz reached 126 million Americans with fake posts and purported political groups through faceturd and Twitter. All it took was 88,000 votes in 3 key states. 
    But voter turnout for every other demographic was a record high in 2016

    Nice try... memes and hashtags are still not why Hillary lost, but whatever helps you sleep at night i guess lol
    Maybe read the report first, to get a better sense of what happened?

    Black voter participation was specifically targeted. 
    You know....if people are easily manipulated by social media like that... I don;t actually want them voting.  I wish those on the right that are so easily manipulated to believe in such BS wouldn't vote either.  

    The former government failed to protect the election.  The current government fails to protect the next election.  But still it takes a special kind of person to follow the ramblings on social media.  
    Everyone is manipulable by media. These media campaigns can be very sophisticated. It’s naive to think you haven’t been influenced by these or similar campaigns in the past, and that you won’t be in the future. 
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  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 8,929
    my2hands said:
    For those wondering why black voter turnout was less for Hillary, read pages 14-25, and page 25 in particular, of the Team Mueller Report. Faceturd legal counsel testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee that Putin on the ritz reached 126 million Americans with fake posts and purported political groups through faceturd and Twitter. All it took was 88,000 votes in 3 key states. 
    But voter turnout for every other demographic was a record high in 2016

    Nice try... memes and hashtags are still not why Hillary lost, but whatever helps you sleep at night i guess lol
    Maybe read the report first, to get a better sense of what happened?

    Black voter participation was specifically targeted. 
    You know....if people are easily manipulated by social media like that... I don;t actually want them voting.  I wish those on the right that are so easily manipulated to believe in such BS wouldn't vote either.  

    The former government failed to protect the election.  The current government fails to protect the next election.  But still it takes a special kind of person to follow the ramblings on social media.  
    I think we share a similar view, cincy, but what's concerning is the possibility that those easily fooled people would then be voting effectively as a proxy for a foreign body. Either:
    1) Russia has meddled, and the US has a lack of critical thought problem which needs to be addressed, as people were being exploited to sway their voting patterns. Next critical step: fix the lack of critical thought with education reforms (don't try to fix thought control on the internet - that's impossible)
    2) Russia has meddled, but because they're trying to control an intelligent population, they failed at producing anything but negligible influence. No next steps are needed

    Alternatively, we can continue to distract from meaningful policy with discussions about what Russia's doing, as we inevitably ignore the quiet threats that sneak onto our radars like a Trojan horse (because after all, it's the US - when you possess global power, you are a target).
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,072
    my2hands said:
    For those wondering why black voter turnout was less for Hillary, read pages 14-25, and page 25 in particular, of the Team Mueller Report. Faceturd legal counsel testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee that Putin on the ritz reached 126 million Americans with fake posts and purported political groups through faceturd and Twitter. All it took was 88,000 votes in 3 key states. 
    But voter turnout for every other demographic was a record high in 2016

    Nice try... memes and hashtags are still not why Hillary lost, but whatever helps you sleep at night i guess lol
    Maybe read the report first, to get a better sense of what happened?

    Black voter participation was specifically targeted. 
    You know....if people are easily manipulated by social media like that... I don;t actually want them voting.  I wish those on the right that are so easily manipulated to believe in such BS wouldn't vote either.  

    The former government failed to protect the election.  The current government fails to protect the next election.  But still it takes a special kind of person to follow the ramblings on social media.  
    The ramblings on social media retweeted and linked by Team Trump Treason’s campaign and Donny Jr. and Jared Dear Boy. It takes a special kind of person and presidential candidate to spread propaganda. The stupid following the stupid, I guess?
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    my2hands said:
    For those wondering why black voter turnout was less for Hillary, read pages 14-25, and page 25 in particular, of the Team Mueller Report. Faceturd legal counsel testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee that Putin on the ritz reached 126 million Americans with fake posts and purported political groups through faceturd and Twitter. All it took was 88,000 votes in 3 key states. 
    But voter turnout for every other demographic was a record high in 2016

    Nice try... memes and hashtags are still not why Hillary lost, but whatever helps you sleep at night i guess lol
    Maybe read the report first, to get a better sense of what happened?

    Black voter participation was specifically targeted. 
    You know....if people are easily manipulated by social media like that... I don;t actually want them voting.  I wish those on the right that are so easily manipulated to believe in such BS wouldn't vote either.  

    The former government failed to protect the election.  The current government fails to protect the next election.  But still it takes a special kind of person to follow the ramblings on social media.  
    The ramblings on social media retweeted and linked by Team Trump Treason’s campaign and Donny Jr. and Jared Dear Boy. It takes a special kind of person and presidential candidate to spread propaganda. The stupid following the stupid, I guess?
    So now black people followed Trump and Jr on Twitter, and stayed home because of Russian memes? Lol
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    my2hands said:
    For those wondering why black voter turnout was less for Hillary, read pages 14-25, and page 25 in particular, of the Team Mueller Report. Faceturd legal counsel testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee that Putin on the ritz reached 126 million Americans with fake posts and purported political groups through faceturd and Twitter. All it took was 88,000 votes in 3 key states. 
    But voter turnout for every other demographic was a record high in 2016

    Nice try... memes and hashtags are still not why Hillary lost, but whatever helps you sleep at night i guess lol
    Maybe read the report first, to get a better sense of what happened?

    Black voter participation was specifically targeted. 
    It's a shame democrats didn't target black voters instead of taking them for granted, maybe they would have shown up

    Was it Russian memes that convinced Hillary to ignore Wisconsin and the midwest? Yeah, don't think so

    Keep looking for the boogeyman, when she was on top of the ticket with "hotsauce in her bag" *barf*

  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,490
    The Republicans went from hating Russia (remember Romney saying Russia was the biggest threat during his campaign) to accepting their meddling in the 2016 campaign.  It took little to no time at all for the deep held resentment of Russia to vanish.    
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    my2hands said:
    For those wondering why black voter turnout was less for Hillary, read pages 14-25, and page 25 in particular, of the Team Mueller Report. Faceturd legal counsel testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee that Putin on the ritz reached 126 million Americans with fake posts and purported political groups through faceturd and Twitter. All it took was 88,000 votes in 3 key states. 
    But voter turnout for every other demographic was a record high in 2016

    Nice try... memes and hashtags are still not why Hillary lost, but whatever helps you sleep at night i guess lol
    Maybe read the report first, to get a better sense of what happened?

    Black voter participation was specifically targeted. 
    You know....if people are easily manipulated by social media like that... I don;t actually want them voting.  I wish those on the right that are so easily manipulated to believe in such BS wouldn't vote either.  

    The former government failed to protect the election.  The current government fails to protect the next election.  But still it takes a special kind of person to follow the ramblings on social media.  
    Everyone is manipulable by media. These media campaigns can be very sophisticated. It’s naive to think you haven’t been influenced by these or similar campaigns in the past, and that you won’t be in the future. 
    exactly. saying everyone who was 'stupid' by being manipulated by campaigns had better throw out all their name brand items. you really think you bought all of those because of their superior quality? no, in many cases, you were swayed, consciously or unconsciously, by their ad campaigns to convince you they were the best product, or the product you thought you had to have. it's no different than this. i think some think it is just because social media was the main target and they claim some intellectual high ground by not being on social media. 
    Darwinspeed, all. 

    Cheers,

    HFD




  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,821
    my2hands said:
    my2hands said:
    For those wondering why black voter turnout was less for Hillary, read pages 14-25, and page 25 in particular, of the Team Mueller Report. Faceturd legal counsel testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee that Putin on the ritz reached 126 million Americans with fake posts and purported political groups through faceturd and Twitter. All it took was 88,000 votes in 3 key states. 
    But voter turnout for every other demographic was a record high in 2016

    Nice try... memes and hashtags are still not why Hillary lost, but whatever helps you sleep at night i guess lol
    Maybe read the report first, to get a better sense of what happened?

    Black voter participation was specifically targeted. 
    It's a shame democrats didn't target black voters instead of taking them for granted, maybe they would have shown up

    Was it Russian memes that convinced Hillary to ignore Wisconsin and the midwest? Yeah, don't think so

    Keep looking for the boogeyman, when she was on top of the ticket with "hotsauce in her bag" *barf*


    Looks like you fell for the "hot sauce in her bag" smear - how ironic. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    my2hands said:
    my2hands said:
    For those wondering why black voter turnout was less for Hillary, read pages 14-25, and page 25 in particular, of the Team Mueller Report. Faceturd legal counsel testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee that Putin on the ritz reached 126 million Americans with fake posts and purported political groups through faceturd and Twitter. All it took was 88,000 votes in 3 key states. 
    But voter turnout for every other demographic was a record high in 2016

    Nice try... memes and hashtags are still not why Hillary lost, but whatever helps you sleep at night i guess lol
    Maybe read the report first, to get a better sense of what happened?

    Black voter participation was specifically targeted. 
    You know....if people are easily manipulated by social media like that... I don;t actually want them voting.  I wish those on the right that are so easily manipulated to believe in such BS wouldn't vote either.  

    The former government failed to protect the election.  The current government fails to protect the next election.  But still it takes a special kind of person to follow the ramblings on social media.  
    The ramblings on social media retweeted and linked by Team Trump Treason’s campaign and Donny Jr. and Jared Dear Boy. It takes a special kind of person and presidential candidate to spread propaganda. The stupid following the stupid, I guess?
    So now black people followed Trump and Jr on Twitter, and stayed home because of Russian memes? Lol
    Read the Team Mueller Report so you’ll understand the context of The Who, what, when, where and how unless you prefer to remain ignorant of the facts. LOL.
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