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  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    IHughFreakingDillon said:
    my2hands said:
    I see that msnbc has had that splashed across their screen for an hour, acting like it's a smoking gun lol

    488 pages and thats the story? 
    same with CNN. 

    I can also be found when reading the report. Along with a lot of other information. HughFreakingDillon said:
    the bigger story is that Trump TRIED to obstruct justice, but only didn't because those he asked to carry out his bidding refused to do so, knowing full well it was illegal. 

    I think that he might have been saved by the people around him on many occasions. 
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    the bigger story is that Trump TRIED to obstruct justice, but only didn't because those he asked to carry out his bidding refused to do so, knowing full well it was illegal. 
    In law, efforts like this are also criminal. Thus, we get charged of attempted murder; we don’t say “the victim didn’t die so it’s all okay”. People get charged with attempting to break the law all the time. It’s not like they should be rewarded for incompetency. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,516
    the bigger story is that Trump TRIED to obstruct justice, but only didn't because those he asked to carry out his bidding refused to do so, knowing full well it was illegal. 
    In law, efforts like this are also criminal. Thus, we get charged of attempted murder; we don’t say “the victim didn’t die so it’s all okay”. People get charged with attempting to break the law all the time. It’s not like they should be rewarded for incompetency. 
    so if mueller believes trump tried to obstruct justice, does that mean he'll be charged after leaving office?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,353
    Cohen received a text mesasage in October 2016 from a Russian businessman that said (paraphrased), "to stop the tapes............" and he informed Team Trump Treason.The businessman was later told the tapes were fake, didn't exist and that this information was not relayed to Cohen. Why then, if the tapes didn't exist, according tot eh Russian businessman, and Team Trump Treason didn't participate in the allegations, would he ask Comey or bring it up with Comey? Me thinks theire's a greater chance that the tape exists. Remember Helsinki? But a sidebar of endless entertainment.
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  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    edited April 2019
    the bigger story is that Trump TRIED to obstruct justice, but only didn't because those he asked to carry out his bidding refused to do so, knowing full well it was illegal. 
    In law, efforts like this are also criminal. Thus, we get charged of attempted murder; we don’t say “the victim didn’t die so it’s all okay”. People get charged with attempting to break the law all the time. It’s not like they should be rewarded for incompetency. 
    That's why Mueller gave the information to Congress because he stuck with the Justice Department 'rule' that a sitting President cannot be indicted and to accuse without charging would not be fair to the President. (the last page of the obstruction section - again, can't get to document atm)

    Something that Barr said was not considered at all in his news conference this morning. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,516
    HARM TO ONGOING MATTER
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  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    HARM TO ONGOING MATTER
    Yeah, I 'd love to see underneath those blacked out sections. 

    Also why I'm not printing it out - my toner wouldn't make it past the first redaction. And my wifi sucks so that's why I can't get to the document - laptop is running like it's on dial-up.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,353
    500 witnesses interviewed by Team Mueller. Team Trump Treason was not one of them. Why, if he's fully exonerated? and,

    “There was no collusion.”

    “I don’t know any Russians.”

    “I have nothing to hide.”

    “I’ll sit down and talk to anyone.”

    “We do everything by the book.”

    “Only the guilty plea the fifth.”

    “Very legal, very cool.”

    “Fully exonerated.”

    Follow the money, from Russia with love and a PTape, all the way to impeachment.


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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,516
    500 witnesses interviewed by Team Mueller. Team Trump Treason was not one of them. Why, if he's fully exonerated? and,

    There was no collusion.”

    “I don’t know any Russians.”

    “I have nothing to hide.”

    “I’ll sit down and talk to anyone.”

    “We do everything by the book.”

    “Only the guilty plea the fifth.”

    “Very legal, very cool.”

    “Fully exonerated.”

    Follow the money, from Russia with love and a PTape, all the way to impeachment.


    have you printed T shirts with this on it yet by chance? jammies maybe?
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,353
    500 witnesses interviewed by Team Mueller. Team Trump Treason was not one of them. Why, if he's fully exonerated? and,

    There was no collusion.”

    “I don’t know any Russians.”

    “I have nothing to hide.”

    “I’ll sit down and talk to anyone.”

    “We do everything by the book.”

    “Only the guilty plea the fifth.”

    “Very legal, very cool.”

    “Fully exonerated.”

    Follow the money, from Russia with love and a PTape, all the way to impeachment.


    have you printed T shirts with this on it yet by chance? jammies maybe?
    Funding my next tour and the pajamas come with footies or not.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Before you go to print...
    “Only the guilty plea the fifth.”

    Is it "plea" or "plead?"
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,353
    OnWis97 said:
    Before you go to print...
    “Only the guilty plea the fifth.”

    Is it "plea" or "plead?"
    I believe Team Trump Treason used the word “plea.” I’ll have my copyright attorney double check.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,516
    500 witnesses interviewed by Team Mueller. Team Trump Treason was not one of them. Why, if he's fully exonerated? and,

    There was no collusion.”

    “I don’t know any Russians.”

    “I have nothing to hide.”

    “I’ll sit down and talk to anyone.”

    “We do everything by the book.”

    “Only the guilty plea the fifth.”

    “Very legal, very cool.”

    “Fully exonerated.”

    Follow the money, from Russia with love and a PTape, all the way to impeachment.


    have you printed T shirts with this on it yet by chance? jammies maybe?
    Funding my next tour and the pajamas come with footies or not.
    I want "I have nothing to hide" printed on the trap door of my onesie. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,353
    500 witnesses interviewed by Team Mueller. Team Trump Treason was not one of them. Why, if he's fully exonerated? and,

    There was no collusion.”

    “I don’t know any Russians.”

    “I have nothing to hide.”

    “I’ll sit down and talk to anyone.”

    “We do everything by the book.”

    “Only the guilty plea the fifth.”

    “Very legal, very cool.”

    “Fully exonerated.”

    Follow the money, from Russia with love and a PTape, all the way to impeachment.


    have you printed T shirts with this on it yet by chance? jammies maybe?
    Funding my next tour and the pajamas come with footies or not.
    I want "I have nothing to hide" printed on the trap door of my onesie. 
    You’ll get residuals.
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    so...……… the pee pee tapes are not real? say it isn't so :)
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,840
    njnancy said:
    HARM TO ONGOING MATTER
    Yeah, I 'd love to see underneath those blacked out sections. 

    Also why I'm not printing it out - my toner wouldn't make it past the first redaction. And my wifi sucks so that's why I can't get to the document - laptop is running like it's on dial-up.
    Russian interference????? ;)
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,516
    my2hands said:
    so...……… the pee pee tapes are not real? say it isn't so :)
    I haven't believed those exist for some time. But what I read in the report this morning made me think twice. 
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  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    njnancy said:
    HARM TO ONGOING MATTER
    Yeah, I 'd love to see underneath those blacked out sections. 

    Also why I'm not printing it out - my toner wouldn't make it past the first redaction. And my wifi sucks so that's why I can't get to the document - laptop is running like it's on dial-up.
    Russian interference????? ;)
    Oh, I like that, Cincy!  :clap:  
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,482
    my2hands said:
    so...……… the pee pee tapes are not real? say it isn't so :)
    As probable as always.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    my2hands said:
    I see that msnbc has had that splashed across their screen for an hour, acting like it's a smoking gun lol

    488 pages and thats the story? 
    It's a red headline on Drudge.  It drives clicks no matter the party. 
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