Michelle Obama - "Divorced Dad" comment

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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,919
    A - I don't think what she said was all that bad

    B - If you do think it's bad I can understand where you are coming from. But point taken move the fuck on. people say some dumb stuff. not everything needs to become a thing for days upon days.  
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,125
    pjhawks said:
    A - I don't think what she said was all that bad

    B - If you do think it's bad I can understand where you are coming from. But point taken move the fuck on. people say some dumb stuff. not everything needs to become a thing for days upon days.  
    agree with B. 
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Thank god she's not running for president...the dems would probably sabotage her with outrage.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,125
    The sweet irony oozing throughout this thread is just delicious.
    Where is the irony?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    edited April 2019
    Someone should remind Mrs. O that visiting your divorced father on the weekends beats the hell out of having absolutely no relationship with your father, which is what over 50% of black children have to endure. 
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  • mcgruff10
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    mickeyrat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
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    So orignial lol.  So are you saying her generalization of divorced dads is accurate?
    stereotypes have a root, no? generally speaking in some kind of truth, no?

    by what percentage are there "divorced dads" out there? 

    arent those whose honor their responsibility to their children just DAD regardless of marital status?  THOSE men dont require defending as that analogy doesnt apply.

    "divorced dads" in the other hand dont deserve defending.
    So “divorced dad” and “dead beat dad” are interchangeable?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,479
    mcgruff10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
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    So orignial lol.  So are you saying her generalization of divorced dads is accurate?
    stereotypes have a root, no? generally speaking in some kind of truth, no?

    by what percentage are there "divorced dads" out there? 

    arent those whose honor their responsibility to their children just DAD regardless of marital status?  THOSE men dont require defending as that analogy doesnt apply.

    "divorced dads" in the other hand dont deserve defending.
    So “divorced dad” and “dead beat dad” are interchangeable?
    can be in many cases.

    will need to reread the article with that cherry picked excerpt. not quite sure she said ALL divorced dads.

    carry on.
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  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    Maybe Tiffany Trump has a better perspective on this than any of us. 
  • cincybearcat
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    mickeyrat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
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    So orignial lol.  So are you saying her generalization of divorced dads is accurate?
    stereotypes have a root, no? generally speaking in some kind of truth, no?

    by what percentage are there "divorced dads" out there? 

    arent those whose honor their responsibility to their children just DAD regardless of marital status?  THOSE men dont require defending as that analogy doesnt apply.

    "divorced dads" in the other hand dont deserve defending.
    So “divorced dad” and “dead beat dad” are interchangeable?
    can be in many cases.

    will need to reread the article with that cherry picked excerpt. not quite sure she said ALL divorced dads.

    carry on.
    You should re read the article because they are 100% ok with the comment. It seems many didn’t read the article. Surprise surprise 
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  • mickeyrat
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    njnancy said:
    Maybe Tiffany Trump has a better perspective on this than any of us. 
    divorced dad even said as much about the golden children too. that he didnt change diapers, raise them......
    was all about having his teenage daughter draped all over him in portraits though. you know, the one he would date if she werent his daughter. that was ok with stern calling her a hot piece of ass. and sgreed. you know, father of the year type shit.

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  • Ledbetterman10
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    mickeyrat said:
    njnancy said:
    Maybe Tiffany Trump has a better perspective on this than any of us. 
    divorced dad even said as much about the golden children too. that he didnt change diapers, raise them......
    was all about having his teenage daughter draped all over him in portraits though. you know, the one he would date if she werent his daughter. that was ok with stern calling her a hot piece of ass. and sgreed. you know, father of the year type shit.
    You're forgetting one....

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  • mickeyrat
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     In an interview in London for her new memoir "Becoming," former First Lady Michelle Obama delivered a stinging assessment of the state of American politics and, specifically, of President Donald Trump. Said Obama:
    "We come from a broken family, we are a little unsettled. Sometimes you spend the weekend with divorced dad. That feels like fun but then you get sick. That is what America is going through. We are living with divorced dad."


    broken family = bitterly partisan divide
    divorced dad = noncustodial parent. the one whose house has no rules. the house where love is bought. cake for breakfast. stay up late. nah, no need to do your homework. WE'RE HAVING FUN THIS WEEKEND.

    now cue trumps twitter feed.......
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  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    mickeyrat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    here, fill this out..


    So orignial lol.  So are you saying her generalization of divorced dads is accurate?
    stereotypes have a root, no? generally speaking in some kind of truth, no?

    by what percentage are there "divorced dads" out there? 

    arent those whose honor their responsibility to their children just DAD regardless of marital status?  THOSE men dont require defending as that analogy doesnt apply.

    "divorced dads" in the other hand dont deserve defending.
    So “divorced dad” and “dead beat dad” are interchangeable?
    can be in many cases.

    will need to reread the article with that cherry picked excerpt. not quite sure she said ALL divorced dads.

    carry on.
    You should re read the article because they are 100% ok with the comment. It seems many didn’t read the article. Surprise surprise 
    Why would you think that 'they' didn't read the article. I wouldn't comment on something unless I read the article that the thread was based on. I just happen to have a completely different opinion of the comment than you do. 

    I even read down to where they talked about Trump's negative ratings prior to election on all types of personality and behavioral traits but people who overwhelmingly elected him did so cause they wanted to shake up Washington. 

    So the article you posted talked about Trump more than Michelle Obama. I actually wish they had printed the entire speech she gave, but it didn't. It went on to talk about her brief and in jest metaphor being actually statistically accurate about Trump based on the polls. 

    Some divorced dads are completely useless, I can attest to that. And there are some divorced dads who are amazing. Same with divorced moms and kids of divorce.  There are married husbands who suck and married husbands who are awesome and the same goes for married women.

    Some people are not good at being nurturers and some are. In regards to Trump, he treats some of his children like they don't exist and I really can't see him talking care of a sick child so the idea that we are a sick nation in the hands of a divorced dad who doesn't want to deal with anything like that is appropo. 
  • Lizard
    Lizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    For the most part, trump's comments are juvenile, mean and NOT Funny
    So I'll just lie down and wait for the dream
    Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,410
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/16/politics/michelle-obama-donald-trump/index.html

    I get her overall point here.  As a dad (not divorced), it kinda sucks that this is the way we look at the Dads.  I don't want to get overly outraged here as she was just trying to use a metaphor, but I would have expected more from her.



    I think you are taking the statement the wrong way. I guess she could have said dead beat dads to make it clearer, but to me it comes across as a reference to the negligent uninvolved dads who don't take the role of being a figure of authority and role model seriously and are stuck in the, "I'm a cool dude." It's the equivalent of the parents who think it's ok to buy smokes and beer for their kids.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    Our nation is sick, as evidenced by this thread, and Trump is the type of divorced dad who doesn't want to deal with a sick kid, just like he doesn't know or care how to heal a nation in need of help.
  • tbergs
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    mickeyrat said:
     In an interview in London for her new memoir "Becoming," former First Lady Michelle Obama delivered a stinging assessment of the state of American politics and, specifically, of President Donald Trump. Said Obama:
    "We come from a broken family, we are a little unsettled. Sometimes you spend the weekend with divorced dad. That feels like fun but then you get sick. That is what America is going through. We are living with divorced dad."


    broken family = bitterly partisan divide
    divorced dad = noncustodial parent. the one whose house has no rules. the house where love is bought. cake for breakfast. stay up late. nah, no need to do your homework. WE'RE HAVING FUN THIS WEEKEND.

    now cue trumps twitter feed.......
    Yeah, this is what I got out of the statement as well.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • The Juggler
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    njnancy said:
    Maybe Tiffany Trump has a better perspective on this than any of us. 
    You can say that for all of his kids except the young one. His ex wives raised all of them. 
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  • mickeyrat
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    mickeyrat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    here, fill this out..


    So orignial lol.  So are you saying her generalization of divorced dads is accurate?
    stereotypes have a root, no? generally speaking in some kind of truth, no?

    by what percentage are there "divorced dads" out there? 

    arent those whose honor their responsibility to their children just DAD regardless of marital status?  THOSE men dont require defending as that analogy doesnt apply.

    "divorced dads" in the other hand dont deserve defending.
    So “divorced dad” and “dead beat dad” are interchangeable?
    can be in many cases.

    will need to reread the article with that cherry picked excerpt. not quite sure she said ALL divorced dads.

    carry on.
    You should re read the article because they are 100% ok with the comment. It seems many didn’t read the article. Surprise surprise 
    seems some here are over looking the singular in dad and inserting the plural.....

    carry on though.
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  • mickeyrat
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    njnancy said:
    Maybe Tiffany Trump has a better perspective on this than any of us. 
    You can say that for all of his kids except the young one. His ex wives raised all of them. 
    would assert baron is included.......
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