Michelle Obama - "Divorced Dad" comment

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,285
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/16/politics/michelle-obama-donald-trump/index.html

    I get her overall point here.  As a dad (not divorced), it kinda sucks that this is the way we look at the Dads.  I don't want to get overly outraged here as she was just trying to use a metaphor, but I would have expected more from her.



    soo the article pulls one small part of this talk or interview out and with broader context shes the devil. got it.

    given recent changes to this shit hole makrs me wonder if its worth renewal.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,488
    mickeyrat said:
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/16/politics/michelle-obama-donald-trump/index.html

    I get her overall point here.  As a dad (not divorced), it kinda sucks that this is the way we look at the Dads.  I don't want to get overly outraged here as she was just trying to use a metaphor, but I would have expected more from her.



    soo the article pulls one small part of this talk or interview out and with broader context shes the devil. got it.

    given recent changes to this shit hole makrs me wonder if its worth renewal.
    So who said she’s the devil? Why are people dramatizing this discussion? 
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,568
    mcgruff10 said:
    njnancy said:
    A private citizen has to be more careful of their metaphors than the President?
    Why does EVERYTHING have to be about Trump?
    So we can be reminded that you always find a way to sort-of-stand up for him.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,568
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/16/politics/michelle-obama-donald-trump/index.html

    I get her overall point here.  As a dad (not divorced), it kinda sucks that this is the way we look at the Dads.  I don't want to get overly outraged here as she was just trying to use a metaphor, but I would have expected more from her.



    What is wrong with divorced Dad's?  I worked with 3 divorced Dad's, 2 of them had sole custody of their children and I would have loved them as a father, the other had joint custody and the mother was all too happy to let him have them as often as liked, maybe she meant divorced Moms.  She like her husband are clueless...
    SHE

    JOKED

    USING

    A

    WELL

    ESTABLISHED

    STEREOTYPE

    THAT DOESN'T

    HURT

    ANYONE.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,614
    mcgruff10 said:
    njnancy said:
    A private citizen has to be more careful of their metaphors than the President?
    Why does EVERYTHING have to be about Trump?
    So we can be reminded that you always find a way to sort-of-stand up for him.
    I call them like I see them and give credit when credit is due. I didn’t vote for the guy but I will mention positive things that he has done. It s ok to give republicans credit when you are a Democrat and vice versa. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,032
    Can you imagine if we had a thread for every insensitive comment the president makes about someone or some people? Good god almighty, we would need a whole new forum to contain all the new content.
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,568
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    njnancy said:
    A private citizen has to be more careful of their metaphors than the President?
    Why does EVERYTHING have to be about Trump?
    So we can be reminded that you always find a way to sort-of-stand up for him.
    I call them like I see them and give credit when credit is due. 

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,568
    I was surprised Michelle was charging 1500 SEK (162 dollars) per ticket here in Sweden for her talk.

    WHAT A SOCIALIST HYPOCRITE! SHOW US YOUR TAX RETURNS MICHELLE! DIDN'T YOU FIGHT AGAINST TICKETMASTER IN THE 90S?!?! 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,488
    We have a whole thread with an amazing amount of pages about trump and his terrible comments. 
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,488
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/16/politics/michelle-obama-donald-trump/index.html

    I get her overall point here.  As a dad (not divorced), it kinda sucks that this is the way we look at the Dads.  I don't want to get overly outraged here as she was just trying to use a metaphor, but I would have expected more from her.



    What is wrong with divorced Dad's?  I worked with 3 divorced Dad's, 2 of them had sole custody of their children and I would have loved them as a father, the other had joint custody and the mother was all too happy to let him have them as often as liked, maybe she meant divorced Moms.  She like her husband are clueless...
    SHE

    JOKED

    USING

    A

    WELL

    ESTABLISHED

    STEREOTYPE

    THAT DOESN'T

    HURT

    ANYONE.
    I guess we will just check with you as to which are ok?
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,614
    We have a whole thread with an amazing amount of pages about trump and his terrible comments. 
    And yet another one has turned into a trump thread.  
    Like I said before, I feel that Michelle is better than this and her descriptions of divorced dads is pretty ignorant and innacurate. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,568
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/16/politics/michelle-obama-donald-trump/index.html

    I get her overall point here.  As a dad (not divorced), it kinda sucks that this is the way we look at the Dads.  I don't want to get overly outraged here as she was just trying to use a metaphor, but I would have expected more from her.



    What is wrong with divorced Dad's?  I worked with 3 divorced Dad's, 2 of them had sole custody of their children and I would have loved them as a father, the other had joint custody and the mother was all too happy to let him have them as often as liked, maybe she meant divorced Moms.  She like her husband are clueless...
    SHE

    JOKED

    USING

    A

    WELL

    ESTABLISHED

    STEREOTYPE

    THAT DOESN'T

    HURT

    ANYONE.
    I guess we will just check with you as to which are ok?
    Pretty good idea.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,568
    mcgruff10 said:
    We have a whole thread with an amazing amount of pages about trump and his terrible comments. 
    And yet another one has turned into a trump thread.  
    You do know her quote was.... about Trump... right?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,614
    mcgruff10 said:
    We have a whole thread with an amazing amount of pages about trump and his terrible comments. 
    And yet another one has turned into a trump thread.  
    You do know her quote was.... about Trump... right?
    And you do know that my complaint was her portrayal about divorced dads, right?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,195
    The double-standard is real.

    "Political Correctness" is a term for when the left gets outraged.  Applies to racial stereotyping (particularly when "it's comedy,"), rape jokes, mocking the disabled, and any other thing that the left should just fucking lighten up about.  Does not apply when the right is offended. This includes kneeling during a patriotic song, saying "happy holidays," and private coffee companies coloring their cups red rather than specifically for Christmas (seriously).

    And I mean this with all sincerity; I absolutely praise the right over this.  How they've been able to make taking offense only bad when one side does it, I really don't know.  But they own it...it's their most productive ownership of the libs, ever.
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,568
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    We have a whole thread with an amazing amount of pages about trump and his terrible comments. 
    And yet another one has turned into a trump thread.  
    You do know her quote was.... about Trump... right?
    And you do know that my complaint was her portrayal about divorced dads, right?

    And I say, it is an eyerollingly created micro-outrage.

    "Now I come from a family
    That has a broken home
    Sometimes I talk to Daddy
    On the telephone
    When he says that he loves me
    I know that he does
    But I wish I could see him
    I wish I knew where he was"
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,614
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    We have a whole thread with an amazing amount of pages about trump and his terrible comments. 
    And yet another one has turned into a trump thread.  
    You do know her quote was.... about Trump... right?
    And you do know that my complaint was her portrayal about divorced dads, right?

    And I say, it is an eyerollingly created micro-outrage.

    "Now I come from a family
    That has a broken home
    Sometimes I talk to Daddy
    On the telephone
    When he says that he loves me
    I know that he does
    But I wish I could see him
    I wish I knew where he was"
    Sounds like your dad was a real winner. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,285
    here, fill this out..


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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,568
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    We have a whole thread with an amazing amount of pages about trump and his terrible comments. 
    And yet another one has turned into a trump thread.  
    You do know her quote was.... about Trump... right?
    And you do know that my complaint was her portrayal about divorced dads, right?

    And I say, it is an eyerollingly created micro-outrage.

    "Now I come from a family
    That has a broken home
    Sometimes I talk to Daddy
    On the telephone
    When he says that he loves me
    I know that he does
    But I wish I could see him
    I wish I knew where he was"
    Sounds like your dad was a real winner. 
    He's okey. Will meet him on friday. And as usual we will talk Neil Young, Frank Zappa, Hagström guitars and some politics. Sometimes some Sci-Fi show he's been watching on Netflix.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,285
    btw Trump IS divorced dad. literally
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,614
    edited April 2019
    mickeyrat said:
    here, fill this out..


    So orignial lol.  So are you saying her generalization of divorced dads is accurate?
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    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,355
    mickeyrat said:
    here, fill this out..


    No, “I want my daddy!,” response? Must have been created by a repub.
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  • njnancynjnancy Posts: 5,096
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    We have a whole thread with an amazing amount of pages about trump and his terrible comments. 
    And yet another one has turned into a trump thread.  
    You do know her quote was.... about Trump... right?
    And you do know that my complaint was her portrayal about divorced dads, right?

    And I say, it is an eyerollingly created micro-outrage.

    "Now I come from a family
    That has a broken home
    Sometimes I talk to Daddy
    On the telephone
    When he says that he loves me
    I know that he does
    But I wish I could see him
    I wish I knew where he was"
    Sounds like your dad was a real winner. 
    It's a Neil Young song. 

    Do you expect better of him? Those lyrics are actually about his dad and are actually intended to be negative. 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,285
    edited April 2019
    mcgruff10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    here, fill this out..


    So orignial lol.  So are you saying her generalization of divorced dads is accurate?
    stereotypes have a root, no? generally speaking in some kind of truth, no?

    by what percentage are there "divorced dads" out there? 

    arent those whose honor their responsibility to their children just DAD regardless of marital status?  THOSE men dont require defending as that analogy doesnt apply.

    "divorced dads" in the other hand dont deserve defending.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Leave Neil Young out of this! 
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,488
    Ok I see. It doesn’t matter cause it’s about trump...or cause Michelle obama said it...or cause it’s about dad’s. Whatever. Was just looking for some conversation and not the over dramatization from the hypocrites around here.  
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,614
    njnancy said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    We have a whole thread with an amazing amount of pages about trump and his terrible comments. 
    And yet another one has turned into a trump thread.  
    You do know her quote was.... about Trump... right?
    And you do know that my complaint was her portrayal about divorced dads, right?

    And I say, it is an eyerollingly created micro-outrage.

    "Now I come from a family
    That has a broken home
    Sometimes I talk to Daddy
    On the telephone
    When he says that he loves me
    I know that he does
    But I wish I could see him
    I wish I knew where he was"
    Sounds like your dad was a real winner. 
    It's a Neil Young song. 

    Do you expect better of him? Those lyrics are actually about his dad and are actually intended to be negative. 
    I figured it was a kiss song. ;)
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,488
    Neil Young can’t sing. There someone finally said it.


    ok .... I actually like Neil...even though he can’t sing....but some of his work is actually unlistenable. 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,032
    The sweet irony oozing throughout this thread is just delicious.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,488
    The sweet irony oozing throughout this thread is just delicious.
    Point it out. 

    You mean all those that get pissed off about trumps comments but let Michelle’s slide? I bet not, so point it out 
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