Michelle Obama - "Divorced Dad" comment

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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,277
    njnancy said:
    njnancy said:
    A private citizen has to be more careful of their metaphors than the President?
    Really going to make this about trump? Wtf
    The country supported him because they were so sick of how PC America had become. Now people are upset that MO made a metaphor about a divorced dad speaking about how the country is right now. 

    I'm making it about what the atmosphere of the country has become. Our president has absolutely no filter and can say anything he wants but private citizens are held to a higher standard. 

    That makes no sense. 
    People who support Trump have no leg to stand on when it comes to this stuff for the rest of eternity.

    Seeing people in here getting so offended over this little joke, while the president demeans, insults, and makes a mockery of the office he holds multiple times per day, every day is absolutely fucking hilarious. Hypocrisy at it's highest possible point.
    Seems a couple of folks are in a round room trying to piss in a corner. Tsk, tsk. Oh the outrage.
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  • The Juggler
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    njnancy said:
    njnancy said:
    A private citizen has to be more careful of their metaphors than the President?
    Really going to make this about trump? Wtf
    The country supported him because they were so sick of how PC America had become. Now people are upset that MO made a metaphor about a divorced dad speaking about how the country is right now. 

    I'm making it about what the atmosphere of the country has become. Our president has absolutely no filter and can say anything he wants but private citizens are held to a higher standard. 

    That makes no sense. 
    People who support Trump have no leg to stand on when it comes to this stuff for the rest of eternity.

    Seeing people in here getting so offended over this little joke, while the president demeans, insults, and makes a mockery of the office he holds multiple times per day, every day is absolutely fucking hilarious. Hypocrisy at it's highest possible point.
    Seems a couple of folks are in a round room trying to piss in a corner. Tsk, tsk. Oh the outrage.
    It's pretty funny
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  • cincybearcat
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    So - I have a serious question. I even stated that this is not something to get all upset about but that it was a very weird metaphor...and I think inappropriate. And I didn’t expect it from Michelle.

    so - people here really don’t care at all about this? Saying that divorced dads all don’t care about there kids and just do the fun stuff? You all are ok with keeping that line of thinking going? 

    Perhaps it’s fine, but then I’m sure hoping we can feel free to make all the other generalizations too. Please don’t jump all over my opinion like some Jew who saw a penny....wait...is that not ok? 
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  • mcgruff10
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    mcgruff10 said:
    Her comment was specifically about Trump, though.

    She's better than that.  I don't care that she was talking about Trump but I do feel her generalizations about divorced dads was pretty shitty and wrong.   
    hahahaha

    This thread is a joke, right? My god, people...
    No i thought it was  a pretty dumb and ignorant analogy. I m not going to lose any sleep over it but I am surprised she said it. 
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  • cincybearcat
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    njnancy said:
    njnancy said:
    A private citizen has to be more careful of their metaphors than the President?
    Really going to make this about trump? Wtf
    The country supported him because they were so sick of how PC America had become. Now people are upset that MO made a metaphor about a divorced dad speaking about how the country is right now. 

    I'm making it about what the atmosphere of the country has become. Our president has absolutely no filter and can say anything he wants but private citizens are held to a higher standard. 

    That makes no sense. 
    People who support Trump have no leg to stand on when it comes to this stuff for the rest of eternity.

    Seeing people in here getting so offended over this little joke, while the president demeans, insults, and makes a mockery of the office he holds multiple times per day, every day is absolutely fucking hilarious. Hypocrisy at it's highest possible point.
    I would agree that if you are ok with trump and what he has been doing, specifically making fun of the handicapped and using nicknames, etc. You certainly shouldn’t care about this.


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  • The Juggler
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    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Her comment was specifically about Trump, though.

    She's better than that.  I don't care that she was talking about Trump but I do feel her generalizations about divorced dads was pretty shitty and wrong.   
    hahahaha

    This thread is a joke, right? My god, people...
    No i thought it was  a pretty dumb and ignorant analogy. I m not going to lose any sleep over it but I am surprised she said it. 
    I thought it was funny and spot on. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,277
    njnancy said:
    njnancy said:
    A private citizen has to be more careful of their metaphors than the President?
    Really going to make this about trump? Wtf
    The country supported him because they were so sick of how PC America had become. Now people are upset that MO made a metaphor about a divorced dad speaking about how the country is right now. 

    I'm making it about what the atmosphere of the country has become. Our president has absolutely no filter and can say anything he wants but private citizens are held to a higher standard. 

    That makes no sense. 
    People who support Trump have no leg to stand on when it comes to this stuff for the rest of eternity.

    Seeing people in here getting so offended over this little joke, while the president demeans, insults, and makes a mockery of the office he holds multiple times per day, every day is absolutely fucking hilarious. Hypocrisy at it's highest possible point.
    Seems a couple of folks are in a round room trying to piss in a corner. Tsk, tsk. Oh the outrage.
    It's pretty funny
    It’s absolutely hilarious, particularly complaining about it “being about Team Trump Treason,” when MO was asked about and was 
    commenting on in the article linked. Also, isn’t Team Trump Treason a “divorced dad?” A few times? Bahahahahahaha!

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  • mcgruff10
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    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Her comment was specifically about Trump, though.

    She's better than that.  I don't care that she was talking about Trump but I do feel her generalizations about divorced dads was pretty shitty and wrong.   
    hahahaha

    This thread is a joke, right? My god, people...
    No i thought it was  a pretty dumb and ignorant analogy. I m not going to lose any sleep over it but I am surprised she said it. 
    I thought it was funny and spot on. 
    To each their own. 
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,837
    mcgruff10 said:
    Her comment was specifically about Trump, though.

    She's better than that.  I don't care that she was talking about Trump but I do feel her generalizations about divorced dads was pretty shitty and wrong.   
    hahahaha

    This thread is a joke, right? My god, people...
    Did you even read my first post? You are pretending that I’m outraged like y’all were when trump had toilet paper on his shoe. 
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,125
    So - I have a serious question. I even stated that this is not something to get all upset about but that it was a very weird metaphor...and I think inappropriate. And I didn’t expect it from Michelle.

    so - people here really don’t care at all about this? Saying that divorced dads all don’t care about there kids and just do the fun stuff? You all are ok with keeping that line of thinking going? 

    Perhaps it’s fine, but then I’m sure hoping we can feel free to make all the other generalizations too. Please don’t jump all over my opinion like some Jew who saw a penny....wait...is that not ok? 
    People on the left would be up in arms if a republican said this. And they will say that they wouldn’t be until they are blue in the face but I call bullshit.  

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  • mickeyrat
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    https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/16/politics/michelle-obama-donald-trump/index.html

    I get her overall point here.  As a dad (not divorced), it kinda sucks that this is the way we look at the Dads.  I don't want to get overly outraged here as she was just trying to use a metaphor, but I would have expected more from her.



    soo the article pulls one small part of this talk or interview out and with broader context shes the devil. got it.

    given recent changes to this shit hole makrs me wonder if its worth renewal.
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  • cincybearcat
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    mickeyrat said:
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/16/politics/michelle-obama-donald-trump/index.html

    I get her overall point here.  As a dad (not divorced), it kinda sucks that this is the way we look at the Dads.  I don't want to get overly outraged here as she was just trying to use a metaphor, but I would have expected more from her.



    soo the article pulls one small part of this talk or interview out and with broader context shes the devil. got it.

    given recent changes to this shit hole makrs me wonder if its worth renewal.
    So who said she’s the devil? Why are people dramatizing this discussion? 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,479
    mcgruff10 said:
    njnancy said:
    A private citizen has to be more careful of their metaphors than the President?
    Why does EVERYTHING have to be about Trump?
    So we can be reminded that you always find a way to sort-of-stand up for him.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,479
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/16/politics/michelle-obama-donald-trump/index.html

    I get her overall point here.  As a dad (not divorced), it kinda sucks that this is the way we look at the Dads.  I don't want to get overly outraged here as she was just trying to use a metaphor, but I would have expected more from her.



    What is wrong with divorced Dad's?  I worked with 3 divorced Dad's, 2 of them had sole custody of their children and I would have loved them as a father, the other had joint custody and the mother was all too happy to let him have them as often as liked, maybe she meant divorced Moms.  She like her husband are clueless...
    SHE

    JOKED

    USING

    A

    WELL

    ESTABLISHED

    STEREOTYPE

    THAT DOESN'T

    HURT

    ANYONE.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,125
    mcgruff10 said:
    njnancy said:
    A private citizen has to be more careful of their metaphors than the President?
    Why does EVERYTHING have to be about Trump?
    So we can be reminded that you always find a way to sort-of-stand up for him.
    I call them like I see them and give credit when credit is due. I didn’t vote for the guy but I will mention positive things that he has done. It s ok to give republicans credit when you are a Democrat and vice versa. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • The Juggler
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    Can you imagine if we had a thread for every insensitive comment the president makes about someone or some people? Good god almighty, we would need a whole new forum to contain all the new content.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,479
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    njnancy said:
    A private citizen has to be more careful of their metaphors than the President?
    Why does EVERYTHING have to be about Trump?
    So we can be reminded that you always find a way to sort-of-stand up for him.
    I call them like I see them and give credit when credit is due. 

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,479
    I was surprised Michelle was charging 1500 SEK (162 dollars) per ticket here in Sweden for her talk.

    WHAT A SOCIALIST HYPOCRITE! SHOW US YOUR TAX RETURNS MICHELLE! DIDN'T YOU FIGHT AGAINST TICKETMASTER IN THE 90S?!?! 
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,837
    We have a whole thread with an amazing amount of pages about trump and his terrible comments. 
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,837
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/16/politics/michelle-obama-donald-trump/index.html

    I get her overall point here.  As a dad (not divorced), it kinda sucks that this is the way we look at the Dads.  I don't want to get overly outraged here as she was just trying to use a metaphor, but I would have expected more from her.



    What is wrong with divorced Dad's?  I worked with 3 divorced Dad's, 2 of them had sole custody of their children and I would have loved them as a father, the other had joint custody and the mother was all too happy to let him have them as often as liked, maybe she meant divorced Moms.  She like her husband are clueless...
    SHE

    JOKED

    USING

    A

    WELL

    ESTABLISHED

    STEREOTYPE

    THAT DOESN'T

    HURT

    ANYONE.
    I guess we will just check with you as to which are ok?
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