I could see him peaking too early because of his age and because he lost last time.
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I don't think Bernie would win swing states. Biden is probably the best hope. I think Harris, Warren, and Bernie could win the democrat nomination but would all be crushed by Trump
I don't know if I could vote for Bernie. Of course I want Trump to lose, but I don't think Bernie can win. If he's the candidate I don't think there's any way Trump loses.
I don't dislike Biden, but I don't see young people rallying behind him.
I don't know if I could vote for Bernie. Of course I want Trump to lose, but I don't think Bernie can win. If he's the candidate I don't think there's any way Trump loses.
I don't dislike Biden, but I don't see young people rallying behind him.
So, if Sanders does end up the candidate, do you just not vote?
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If you saw, McConnell said this week that the election should be about socialism. That's no accident. Democrats should tread lightly on everything but healthcare. They need to go full out on it, but not Medicare for all or single payer. People generally like their health care but hate the price. Attack that. It's a winner.
Second thing you'll notice is that Pelosi said she would make a deal on immigration. While it's debatable that it's a real issue, it's undeniably a political issue. It would behoove Democrats to take that off the table. Let trump get a moderate, but humane victory .
Many of Bernie's policies are worrisome to moderates like me. While Trump and Bernie use different words and have a completely different tact (Trump roots much in racism), Bernie and Trump have much in common on economic policy. Their views on trade are strikingly similar.
Im not feeling a candidate who only is a dem when it suits him. its lazy. you are what you are. run as that. put the fucking work in to get on all the ballots.
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Bernie ain’t playing. I know he’s in Michigan, hitting a few different spots today. Drawing decent crowds as well. I like Bernie. I feel he’s a good person and seems to be on the right side of issues for me. I voted for him in primary against Hillary and he ultimately went on to win Michigan. Whats Biden waiting for? Bernie’s out there campaigning hard and I like that he’s fighting hard for votes not taking things for granted.
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heard on siriusxm potus channel this morning, the front runner early hasnt won nomination.
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Everyone can of course vote as your conscience dictates, but realistically any vote that isn't for the dem candidate helps Trump. That's the essence of US politics, with no viable route to victory for an independent candidate. Call it a protest vote, call it whatever you like, but that's the reality.
I also don't see Sanders as being the candidate.
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If Bernie is the nominee I’ll be voting 3rd party.
I would think you're smarter than that.
He’s one of a few I do not believe I can vote for.
So, essentially you like Trump more?
No I like a 3rd party candidate more.
Before putting words in my mouth that I never said, try reading.
A 3rd candidate in the US is a vote for Trump.
No, by definition it is a vote for a 3rd party candidate.
Voting third party shows a lack of basic understanding of America's government. We're a two party system. Go back to civics class.
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If Bernie is the nominee I’ll be voting 3rd party.
I would think you're smarter than that.
He’s one of a few I do not believe I can vote for.
So, essentially you like Trump more?
No I like a 3rd party candidate more.
Before putting words in my mouth that I never said, try reading.
A 3rd candidate in the US is a vote for Trump.
No, by definition it is a vote for a 3rd party candidate.
Voting third party shows a lack of basic understanding of America's government. We're a two party system. Go back to civics class.
Even TR couldn't win as a third party. All it does is siphon votes. But I'm sure there were a lot of principled Bernie supporters that are feeling good right now. They couldn't bother to learn from the 2000 election...or 92...
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In a swing state, probably. But in a state like California, where I vote, Iw as lucky last election be be able to vote for Stein with a clear conscience knowing Hillary would take the state. The electoral college made that possible for me.
No, by definition it is a vote for a 3rd party candidate.
Voting third party shows a lack of basic understanding of America's government. We're a two party system. Go back to civics class.
We are primarily a two party system but not exclusively. Otherwise the two independents in the Senate would be hallucinations, which they are not. And why the "Go back to civics class" sarcasm? God, that kind of thing gets old around here.
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In a swing state, probably. But in a state like California, where I vote, Iw as lucky last election be be able to vote for Stein with a clear conscience knowing Hillary would take the state. The electoral college made that possible for me.
No, by definition it is a vote for a 3rd party candidate.
Voting third party shows a lack of basic understanding of America's government. We're a two party system. Go back to civics class.
We are primarily a two party system but not exclusively. Otherwise the two independents in the Senate would be hallucinations, which they are not. And why the "Go back to civics class" sarcasm? God, that kind of thing gets old around here.
Go back to civics class ya commie!!!
And learn Cincy and Brian can vote for whoeverthefuck they want?
If more people voted 3rd party, perhaps a 3rd party option could become viable, maybe even start picking up seats in congress and helping break this insane extreme partisan bullshit we have now....
In a swing state, probably. But in a state like California, where I vote, Iw as lucky last election be be able to vote for Stein with a clear conscience knowing Hillary would take the state. The electoral college made that possible for me.
No, by definition it is a vote for a 3rd party candidate.
Voting third party shows a lack of basic understanding of America's government. We're a two party system. Go back to civics class.
We are primarily a two party system but not exclusively. Otherwise the two independents in the Senate would be hallucinations, which they are not. And why the "Go back to civics class" sarcasm? God, that kind of thing gets old around here.
Go back to civics class ya commie!!!
And learn Cincy and Brian can vote for whoeverthefuck they want?
If more people voted 3rd party, perhaps a 3rd party option could become viable, maybe even start picking up seats in congress and helping break this insane extreme partisan bullshit we have now....
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In a swing state, probably. But in a state like California, where I vote, Iw as lucky last election be be able to vote for Stein with a clear conscience knowing Hillary would take the state. The electoral college made that possible for me.
No, by definition it is a vote for a 3rd party candidate.
Voting third party shows a lack of basic understanding of America's government. We're a two party system. Go back to civics class.
We are primarily a two party system but not exclusively. Otherwise the two independents in the Senate would be hallucinations, which they are not. And why the "Go back to civics class" sarcasm? God, that kind of thing gets old around here.
Go back to civics class ya commie!!!
And learn Cincy and Brian can vote for whoeverthefuck they want?
If more people voted 3rd party, perhaps a 3rd party option could become viable, maybe even start picking up seats in congress and helping break this insane extreme partisan bullshit we have now....
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Uh yeah. Keep dreaming. Any year they will be viable... any year now.
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In a swing state, probably. But in a state like California, where I vote, Iw as lucky last election be be able to vote for Stein with a clear conscience knowing Hillary would take the state. The electoral college made that possible for me.
No, by definition it is a vote for a 3rd party candidate.
Voting third party shows a lack of basic understanding of America's government. We're a two party system. Go back to civics class.
We are primarily a two party system but not exclusively. Otherwise the two independents in the Senate would be hallucinations, which they are not. And why the "Go back to civics class" sarcasm? God, that kind of thing gets old around here.
Go back to civics class ya commie!!!
And learn Cincy and Brian can vote for whoeverthefuck they want?
If more people voted 3rd party, perhaps a 3rd party option could become viable, maybe even start picking up seats in congress and helping break this insane extreme partisan bullshit we have now....
Push the botton for whoever you want
Radical!
And thanks for the cool idea! I think next time I vote and can't stand "all of the above" I'm going to write in "Whoeverthefuck"!
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I could see him peaking too early because of his age and because he lost last time.
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So, essentially you like Trump more?
I don't dislike Biden, but I don't see young people rallying behind him.
Second thing you'll notice is that Pelosi said she would make a deal on immigration. While it's debatable that it's a real issue, it's undeniably a political issue. It would behoove Democrats to take that off the table. Let trump get a moderate, but humane victory .
Before putting words in my mouth that I never said, try reading.
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I like Bernie. I feel he’s a good person and seems to be on the right side of issues for me. I voted for him in primary against Hillary and he ultimately went on to win Michigan.
Whats Biden waiting for? Bernie’s out there campaigning hard and I like that he’s fighting hard for votes not taking things for granted.
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I also don't see Sanders as being the candidate.
We are primarily a two party system but not exclusively. Otherwise the two independents in the Senate would be hallucinations, which they are not. And why the "Go back to civics class" sarcasm? God, that kind of thing gets old around here.
And learn Cincy and Brian can vote for whoeverthefuck they want?
If more people voted 3rd party, perhaps a 3rd party option could become viable, maybe even start picking up seats in congress and helping break this insane extreme partisan bullshit we have now....
Push the botton for whoever you want