The Democratic Candidates

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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,445
    my2hands said:
    Hi! said:
    One person said Biden’s advisers are also considering an early event in Charlottesville, Virginia, the site of a deadly clash between white supremacists and counterprotesters in 2017. The location would be intended to draw a contrast between Biden and President Donald Trump, who initially said there were some “very fine people on both sides” of the violent confrontation.
    Brilliant move
    Yup. Instead of dividing people he is going to bring them together...and inappropriately touch them while smelling their hair
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,882
    my2hands said:
    Hi! said:
    One person said Biden’s advisers are also considering an early event in Charlottesville, Virginia, the site of a deadly clash between white supremacists and counterprotesters in 2017. The location would be intended to draw a contrast between Biden and President Donald Trump, who initially said there were some “very fine people on both sides” of the violent confrontation.
    Brilliant move
    Yes, but kind of PR-tacky.
    It is...but not quite “bring the women who accused your opponent’s husband of sexual assault and sit them in the front row” tacky
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,143
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    my2hands said:
    Hi! said:
    One person said Biden’s advisers are also considering an early event in Charlottesville, Virginia, the site of a deadly clash between white supremacists and counterprotesters in 2017. The location would be intended to draw a contrast between Biden and President Donald Trump, who initially said there were some “very fine people on both sides” of the violent confrontation.
    Brilliant move
    Yes, but kind of PR-tacky.
    absolutely not

    Kind of the polar opposite of Reagan opening his 80 campaign in Selma,  talking about states rights. 
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  • SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 25,598

    HAPPY EASTER COMRADES!!!

    I will be celebrating the Holiday with a menu of...


    Borscht

    Beef Stroganoff

    Sweet And Sour Cabbage

    Solyanka Soup

    And for dessert? Morozhenoe (Russian Ice Cream)


    Have a safe and Happy Holiday!

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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,526

    HAPPY EASTER COMRADES!!!

    I will be celebrating the Holiday with a menu of...


    Borscht

    Beef Stroganoff

    Sweet And Sour Cabbage

    Solyanka Soup

    And for dessert? Morozhenoe (Russian Ice Cream)


    Have a safe and Happy Holiday!

    Borscht is the best.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,526
    edited April 2019
    my2hands said:
    Hi! said:
    One person said Biden’s advisers are also considering an early event in Charlottesville, Virginia, the site of a deadly clash between white supremacists and counterprotesters in 2017. The location would be intended to draw a contrast between Biden and President Donald Trump, who initially said there were some “very fine people on both sides” of the violent confrontation.
    Brilliant move
    Yes, but kind of PR-tacky.
    It is...but not quite “bring the women who accused your opponent’s husband of sexual assault and sit them in the front row” tacky
    True. And sniffing hair in public isn't quite groping and sexually assaulting woman through out all of your life.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    my2hands said:
    Hi! said:
    One person said Biden’s advisers are also considering an early event in Charlottesville, Virginia, the site of a deadly clash between white supremacists and counterprotesters in 2017. The location would be intended to draw a contrast between Biden and President Donald Trump, who initially said there were some “very fine people on both sides” of the violent confrontation.
    Brilliant move
    Yes, but kind of PR-tacky.
    It is...but not quite “bring the women who accused your opponent’s husband of sexual assault and sit them in the front row” tacky
    True. And sniffing hair in public isn't quite groping and sexually assaulting woman through out all of your life.
    And how does one know it's sniffing? That's just putting on the worst possible spin.  Trump admits his assualt freely. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    my2hands said:
    Hi! said:
    One person said Biden’s advisers are also considering an early event in Charlottesville, Virginia, the site of a deadly clash between white supremacists and counterprotesters in 2017. The location would be intended to draw a contrast between Biden and President Donald Trump, who initially said there were some “very fine people on both sides” of the violent confrontation.
    Brilliant move
    Yes, but kind of PR-tacky.
    absolutely not

    Kind of the polar opposite of Reagan opening his 80 campaign in Selma,  talking about states rights. 
    Philadelphia, Mississippi.
    Ah yes,  you're correct.  
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,526
    edited April 2019
    Pete is attacking Bernie. Know your fucking place padawan.


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
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  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,145
    Pete is attacking Bernie. Know your fucking place padawan.


    Both Trump and Sanders have very clearly made moves to embrace populism. I also think your definition of 'attack' is out to lunch. That was a reasonable stating of an opinion.
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  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,145
    brianlux said:
    On Fox News' Town Hall, he was obnoxious and arrogant. I don't see him as someone with the ability to unite a country that so desperately needs uniting.
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,526
    benjs said:
    Pete is attacking Bernie. Know your fucking place padawan.


    Both Trump and Sanders have very clearly made moves to embrace populism. I also think your definition of 'attack' is out to lunch. That was a reasonable stating of an opinion.
    What is Bernie doing that is embracing populism?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,526
    benjs said:
    brianlux said:
    On Fox News' Town Hall, he was obnoxious and arrogant. I don't see him as someone with the ability to unite a country that so desperately needs uniting.
    This whole "uniting/healing the country" that is so popular to throw out, me thinks is just an empty slogan without any substance. It's as shallow as "MAGA".

    Do not have a racist POS in office who breeds hatred and encourage fringe right-winged groups and you will be back to whatever your normal is. This magic unifying that pundits and others keep on rambling about how important it is I don't think you will get with person X instead of Bernie in the White House.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,145
    benjs said:
    Pete is attacking Bernie. Know your fucking place padawan.


    Both Trump and Sanders have very clearly made moves to embrace populism. I also think your definition of 'attack' is out to lunch. That was a reasonable stating of an opinion.
    What is Bernie doing that is embracing populism?
    From Merriam-Webster's definition of populist: "a member of a political party claiming to represent the common people". You're seriously going to ask me for details of how Bernie Sanders exemplifies that? It's practically his entire raison d'être. 
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,445
    Pete is attacking Bernie. Know your fucking place padawan.


    Guy is super smart. Like him more and more 
    hippiemom = goodness
  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,145
    benjs said:
    brianlux said:
    On Fox News' Town Hall, he was obnoxious and arrogant. I don't see him as someone with the ability to unite a country that so desperately needs uniting.
    This whole "uniting/healing the country" that is so popular to throw out, me thinks is just an empty slogan without any substance. It's as shallow as "MAGA".

    Do not have a racist POS in office who breeds hatred and encourage fringe right-winged groups and you will be back to whatever your normal is. This magic unifying that pundits and others keep on rambling about how important it is I don't think you will get with person X instead of Bernie in the White House.
    Did I say anything about election slogans? I'm not calling for a slogan, I'm calling for action, and I'm saying that Bernie's words and actions that he exhibits regularly are almost as unlikely to unite the splintered country as Trump's. Think about the political spectrum in the US. I don't think Sanders is going to exhibit any ability to reach voters right of center with his policies, and I honestly think he'll even scare away some center-left voters. 

    On not having a racist head of state, that's necessary but not sufficient. This isn't about where you stand on the spectrum, it's about facts that you have two major cohorts of voters that can't even agree on their fundamental values, and that lack of unity is regularly exploited by politicians to weaponize each others' words and create more extreme polarity in the country, rarely to anyone's benefit but the candidate.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    benjs said:
    brianlux said:
    On Fox News' Town Hall, he was obnoxious and arrogant. I don't see him as someone with the ability to unite a country that so desperately needs uniting.
    I missed that.  Doesn't sound good.

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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    edited April 2019
    Pete is attacking Bernie. Know your fucking place padawan.


    Guy is super smart. Like him more and more 
    I very much like Buttigieg from what I've heard him say but I find it hard to get excited about him being able to win because his chances of winning are so slim.  I have zero problem with him being gay but this country is still too ignorant and biased for that to happen.  Maybe in another 20 years.  Maybe.
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  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,145
    edited April 2019
    brianlux said:
    benjs said:
    brianlux said:
    On Fox News' Town Hall, he was obnoxious and arrogant. I don't see him as someone with the ability to unite a country that so desperately needs uniting.
    I missed that.  Doesn't sound good.

    Here you go, my friend! Hopefully I'm in the minority in my opinion and others have faith that I don't. I'm still digging Mayor Pete's pragmatism and balance.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ozAACcc8I
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,526
    brianlux said:
    benjs said:
    brianlux said:
    On Fox News' Town Hall, he was obnoxious and arrogant. I don't see him as someone with the ability to unite a country that so desperately needs uniting.
    I missed that.  Doesn't sound good.

    It was like he came there ready to fight Fox News. So he took all questions like an attack (which they might have been). But yeah. He had the crowd on his side though. Which makes it kind of fun to watch.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,526
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • njnancynjnancy Posts: 5,096
    benjs said:
    benjs said:
    brianlux said:
    On Fox News' Town Hall, he was obnoxious and arrogant. I don't see him as someone with the ability to unite a country that so desperately needs uniting.
    This whole "uniting/healing the country" that is so popular to throw out, me thinks is just an empty slogan without any substance. It's as shallow as "MAGA".

    Do not have a racist POS in office who breeds hatred and encourage fringe right-winged groups and you will be back to whatever your normal is. This magic unifying that pundits and others keep on rambling about how important it is I don't think you will get with person X instead of Bernie in the White House.
    Did I say anything about election slogans? I'm not calling for a slogan, I'm calling for action, and I'm saying that Bernie's words and actions that he exhibits regularly are almost as unlikely to unite the splintered country as Trump's. Think about the political spectrum in the US. I don't think Sanders is going to exhibit any ability to reach voters right of center with his policies, and I honestly think he'll even scare away some center-left voters. 

    On not having a racist head of state, that's necessary but not sufficient. This isn't about where you stand on the spectrum, it's about facts that you have two major cohorts of voters that can't even agree on their fundamental values, and that lack of unity is regularly exploited by politicians to weaponize each others' words and create more extreme polarity in the country, rarely to anyone's benefit but the candidate.
    There are also a lot of HRC supporters who found him to be divisive in his later rhetoric in the primary campaign and though he did not have a chance of getting the needed votes, he stayed in the race until the Convention which caused the Democratic Party to be split instead of united. He has pledged that he is staying in till the Convention this time also which I find to be egotistical as it is not good for the country. 

    Hillary couldn't turn to her campaign against Trump in full until after the Convention as she had to compete with Sanders up to the Summer wasting money and momentum with Trump, and possibly a stop in those battleground states. Instead of getting out when it was obvious he wasn't gonna have enough states, he fed off of his crowds much like Trump does and kept them so whipped up that a lot of them voted third party or not at all. Or they kept him whipped up. Or it was mutual. In any case, he was all about his supporters and not the Democratic Party as a whole. He had disdain for it, which is not really good when you're running as a fake Democrat.

    Sanders is not a unifying figure in a lot of people's opinions. 
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,526
    I hate when Pete starts a sentence with "Well... I remember this one time when I was in Afghanistan..." 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,526
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Hi!Hi! Posts: 3,095
    edited April 2019
    Wtf? Wow, lol. At least he’s keeping his hands busy.

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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,882
    brianlux said:
    Pete is attacking Bernie. Know your fucking place padawan.


    Guy is super smart. Like him more and more 
    I very much like Buttigieg from what I've heard him say but I find it hard to get excited about him being able to win because his chances of winning are so slim.  I have zero problem with him being gay but this country is still too ignorant and biased for that to happen.  Maybe in another 20 years.  Maybe.
    I don’t think being gay would hurt him. A black guy won. A woman just about won. Why not a gay guy? I think the country is more than ready for that. 
       
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    You do realize that the US has had plenty of democratic president's?  Yet, not 1 have brought in universal healthcare.  As far as I'm concerned the single greatest achievement a government can do is at least provide basic health for her citizens...most Democrats do not believe in social programs...they like the republicans enjoy having there pockets lined by the insurance lobby
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