It's the end of Biden written out over three pictures.
Not when right-wing media gets done with it. He'll be calling Obama a...
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Why? I'm all for the P or VP being the right person, regardless of gender...but why would a male P need to choose a female running mate?
The point is that there is no way in hell that they can't find "the right person" in a woman, considering how underrepresented women are by government (and considering that a woman has never held either of the two spots in the history of the nation), combined with the number of amazing women there are to choose from. There is no way in hell that a male running mate would be best over a great woman. Well, the right person for POTUS is a woman too, but America is still too sexist for that probably.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Why? I'm all for the P or VP being the right person, regardless of gender...but why would a male P need to choose a female running mate?
The point is that there is no way in hell that they can't find "the right person" in a woman, considering how underrepresented women are by government (and considering that a woman has never held either of the two spots in the history of the nation), combined with the number of amazing women there are to choose from. There is no way in hell that a male running mate would be best over a great woman. Well, the right person for POTUS is a woman too, but America is still too sexist for that probably.
Bullshit... America is too sexist for a woman Potus? Typical horseshit broad stereotyping of Americans on the AMT...
You forgot a woman just got 3 million more votes than her opponent in a national election?
Why? I'm all for the P or VP being the right person, regardless of gender...but why would a male P need to choose a female running mate?
The point is that there is no way in hell that they can't find "the right person" in a woman, considering how underrepresented women are by government (and considering that a woman has never held either of the two spots in the history of the nation), combined with the number of amazing women there are to choose from. There is no way in hell that a male running mate would be best over a great woman. Well, the right person for POTUS is a woman too, but America is still too sexist for that probably.
Other than Kim Campbell who was handed the PM's job, and I've had coffee that lasted longer her than her as PM Canada has been all-male Prime Minister's and currently have no females as premiers (if memory serves me correct)...
Why? I'm all for the P or VP being the right person, regardless of gender...but why would a male P need to choose a female running mate?
The point is that there is no way in hell that they can't find "the right person" in a woman, considering how underrepresented women are by government (and considering that a woman has never held either of the two spots in the history of the nation), combined with the number of amazing women there are to choose from. There is no way in hell that a male running mate would be best over a great woman. Well, the right person for POTUS is a woman too, but America is still too sexist for that probably.
Bullshit... America is too sexist for a woman Potus? Typical horseshit broad stereotyping of Americans on the AMT...
You forgot a woman just got 3 million more votes than her opponent in a national election?
Guess what, we aslo voted for a black man, twice!
She got 3 million more votes then the dumbest person ever who disgusted sane people to the core. Don't know how much that matters, but Hillary VS a stereotypical white President Man like e.g. John Kasich - how would a woman like Hillary have fared then?
EDIT: Obviously Hillary was weirdly hated to by people, like Trump. Two hated people fighting to be president. Weird.
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Why? I'm all for the P or VP being the right person, regardless of gender...but why would a male P need to choose a female running mate?
The point is that there is no way in hell that they can't find "the right person" in a woman, considering how underrepresented women are by government (and considering that a woman has never held either of the two spots in the history of the nation), combined with the number of amazing women there are to choose from. There is no way in hell that a male running mate would be best over a great woman. Well, the right person for POTUS is a woman too, but America is still too sexist for that probably.
Bullshit... America is too sexist for a woman Potus? Typical horseshit broad stereotyping of Americans on the AMT...
You forgot a woman just got 3 million more votes than her opponent in a national election?
Guess what, we aslo voted for a black man, twice!
HA!! Yeah, against a guy who said grab her by the pussy???? That does say a LOT about how people feel about voting for a female POTUS: that they aren't willing to. I think it is the height of naivety to think that Trump winning didn't have something to do with sexism. To me that is crazy talk. Pure denial. YES, America is too sexist to elect a female, and the polls compared to the quality of the dem candidates right now help prove it.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Why? I'm all for the P or VP being the right person, regardless of gender...but why would a male P need to choose a female running mate?
The point is that there is no way in hell that they can't find "the right person" in a woman, considering how underrepresented women are by government (and considering that a woman has never held either of the two spots in the history of the nation), combined with the number of amazing women there are to choose from. There is no way in hell that a male running mate would be best over a great woman. Well, the right person for POTUS is a woman too, but America is still too sexist for that probably.
Bullshit... America is too sexist for a woman Potus? Typical horseshit broad stereotyping of Americans on the AMT...
You forgot a woman just got 3 million more votes than her opponent in a national election?
Guess what, we aslo voted for a black man, twice!
HA!! Yeah, against a guy who said grab her by the pussy???? That does say a LOT about how people feel about voting for a female POTUS: that they aren't willing to. I think it is the height of naivety to think that Trump winning didn't have something to do with sexism. To me that is crazy talk. Pure denial. YES, America is too sexist to elect a female, and the polls compared to the quality of the dem candidates right now help prove it.
What do you mean? What do the polls show in that context?
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Why? I'm all for the P or VP being the right person, regardless of gender...but why would a male P need to choose a female running mate?
The point is that there is no way in hell that they can't find "the right person" in a woman, considering how underrepresented women are by government (and considering that a woman has never held either of the two spots in the history of the nation), combined with the number of amazing women there are to choose from. There is no way in hell that a male running mate would be best over a great woman. Well, the right person for POTUS is a woman too, but America is still too sexist for that probably.
Bullshit... America is too sexist for a woman Potus? Typical horseshit broad stereotyping of Americans on the AMT...
You forgot a woman just got 3 million more votes than her opponent in a national election?
Guess what, we aslo voted for a black man, twice!
HA!! Yeah, against a guy who said grab her by the pussy???? That does say a LOT about how people feel about voting for a female POTUS: that they aren't willing to. I think it is the height of naivety to think that Trump winning didn't have something to do with sexism. To me that is crazy talk. Pure denial. YES, America is too sexist to elect a female, and the polls compared to the quality of the dem candidates right now help prove it.
What do you mean? What do the polls show in that context?
That everyone is pretty much completely focused on the men as all the front runners, despite the fact that there are women who actually bring more to the table. The males just automatically floated to the top.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Why? I'm all for the P or VP being the right person, regardless of gender...but why would a male P need to choose a female running mate?
The point is that there is no way in hell that they can't find "the right person" in a woman, considering how underrepresented women are by government (and considering that a woman has never held either of the two spots in the history of the nation), combined with the number of amazing women there are to choose from. There is no way in hell that a male running mate would be best over a great woman. Well, the right person for POTUS is a woman too, but America is still too sexist for that probably.
Bullshit... America is too sexist for a woman Potus? Typical horseshit broad stereotyping of Americans on the AMT...
You forgot a woman just got 3 million more votes than her opponent in a national election?
Guess what, we aslo voted for a black man, twice!
HA!! Yeah, against a guy who said grab her by the pussy???? That does say a LOT about how people feel about voting for a female POTUS: that they aren't willing to. I think it is the height of naivety to think that Trump winning didn't have something to do with sexism. To me that is crazy talk. Pure denial. YES, America is too sexist to elect a female, and the polls compared to the quality of the dem candidates right now help prove it.
I’m assuming you are using a recognized poll or polls and then your own standard as to “quality of the dem candidates” correct?
Based on everything I’ve seen/read/etc so far I’ve been disappointed in harris. Seems to not want to tackle tough issues at this point. I think that Warren has been impressive in many ways, I just happen to disagree with her a lot. Other than that, I do not see other women really gaining traction at this point. In reality, those getting attention appear to be Biden, Bernie, Warren and the newbie Pete. Is that due to sexism? Name recognition? Don’t know. Guess we will see over time. But if a women doesn’t win, it doesn’t necessarily mean sexism.
Why? I'm all for the P or VP being the right person, regardless of gender...but why would a male P need to choose a female running mate?
The point is that there is no way in hell that they can't find "the right person" in a woman, considering how underrepresented women are by government (and considering that a woman has never held either of the two spots in the history of the nation), combined with the number of amazing women there are to choose from. There is no way in hell that a male running mate would be best over a great woman. Well, the right person for POTUS is a woman too, but America is still too sexist for that probably.
Bullshit... America is too sexist for a woman Potus? Typical horseshit broad stereotyping of Americans on the AMT...
You forgot a woman just got 3 million more votes than her opponent in a national election?
Guess what, we aslo voted for a black man, twice!
HA!! Yeah, against a guy who said grab her by the pussy???? That does say a LOT about how people feel about voting for a female POTUS: that they aren't willing to. I think it is the height of naivety to think that Trump winning didn't have something to do with sexism. To me that is crazy talk. Pure denial. YES, America is too sexist to elect a female, and the polls compared to the quality of the dem candidates right now help prove it.
What do you mean? What do the polls show in that context?
That everyone is pretty much completely focused on the men as all the front runners, despite the fact that there are women who actually bring more to the table. The males just automatically floated to the top.
Are you sure it has only to do with gender?
Then why was this not true in 2007?
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Let's not forget Hillary whupped Bernie 55 to 43. That's not particularly close. So I'm not sure I buy that Democrats are being sexist with the current leaders. The two top dogs are clearly the most known. That has a ton to do with it at this point.
Let's not forget Hillary whupped Bernie 55 to 43. That's not particularly close. So I'm not sure I buy that Democrats are being sexist with the current leaders. The two top dogs are clearly the most known. That has a ton to do with it at this point.
I personally don't think that democrats are being sexist, but there definitely is a case to be made that the media coverage (or lack there of) is sexist.
Why? I'm all for the P or VP being the right person, regardless of gender...but why would a male P need to choose a female running mate?
The point is that there is no way in hell that they can't find "the right person" in a woman, considering how underrepresented women are by government (and considering that a woman has never held either of the two spots in the history of the nation), combined with the number of amazing women there are to choose from. There is no way in hell that a male running mate would be best over a great woman. Well, the right person for POTUS is a woman too, but America is still too sexist for that probably.
Bullshit... America is too sexist for a woman Potus? Typical horseshit broad stereotyping of Americans on the AMT...
You forgot a woman just got 3 million more votes than her opponent in a national election?
Guess what, we aslo voted for a black man, twice!
HA!! Yeah, against a guy who said grab her by the pussy???? That does say a LOT about how people feel about voting for a female POTUS: that they aren't willing to. I think it is the height of naivety to think that Trump winning didn't have something to do with sexism. To me that is crazy talk. Pure denial. YES, America is too sexist to elect a female, and the polls compared to the quality of the dem candidates right now help prove it.
What do you mean? What do the polls show in that context?
That everyone is pretty much completely focused on the men as all the front runners, despite the fact that there are women who actually bring more to the table. The males just automatically floated to the top.
Which women are bringing more to the table than let’s say Biden and Bernie? Did you think Sarah Palin was a good vp choice?
Why? I'm all for the P or VP being the right person, regardless of gender...but why would a male P need to choose a female running mate?
The point is that there is no way in hell that they can't find "the right person" in a woman, considering how underrepresented women are by government (and considering that a woman has never held either of the two spots in the history of the nation), combined with the number of amazing women there are to choose from. There is no way in hell that a male running mate would be best over a great woman. Well, the right person for POTUS is a woman too, but America is still too sexist for that probably.
That is your perspective...Your opinion is very definitive but I do not agree.
We all can have our opinions...that is OK.
America is too dumb, overall, to do the right thing. This is how we got stuck with Chief Dumbo Drop as POTUS. Personally I am happy to vote for a woman, a person of color, a man, or whomever I like best for the job. Having a penis or a vagina will not automatically make someone the best, for POTUS, in my estimation.
Why? I'm all for the P or VP being the right person, regardless of gender...but why would a male P need to choose a female running mate?
The point is that there is no way in hell that they can't find "the right person" in a woman, considering how underrepresented women are by government (and considering that a woman has never held either of the two spots in the history of the nation), combined with the number of amazing women there are to choose from. There is no way in hell that a male running mate would be best over a great woman. Well, the right person for POTUS is a woman too, but America is still too sexist for that probably.
Bullshit... America is too sexist for a woman Potus? Typical horseshit broad stereotyping of Americans on the AMT...
You forgot a woman just got 3 million more votes than her opponent in a national election?
Guess what, we aslo voted for a black man, twice!
HA!! Yeah, against a guy who said grab her by the pussy???? That does say a LOT about how people feel about voting for a female POTUS: that they aren't willing to. I think it is the height of naivety to think that Trump winning didn't have something to do with sexism. To me that is crazy talk. Pure denial. YES, America is too sexist to elect a female, and the polls compared to the quality of the dem candidates right now help prove it.
What do you mean? What do the polls show in that context?
That everyone is pretty much completely focused on the men as all the front runners, despite the fact that there are women who actually bring more to the table. The males just automatically floated to the top.
Which women are bringing more to the table than let’s say Biden and Bernie? Did you think Sarah Palin was a good vp choice?
Warren is bringing more than anyone, period. And Harris is bringing more than Biden. And both of them are bringing more than Beto and Buttigieg. Yet all 4 are topping the polls.
And that is a really really really really dumb question. Obviously not. I am not someone who just think any idiot is better just because she's female.
FWIW, I don't expect a single one of you men to believe or even really understand what I'm saying on this matter, lol.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Why? I'm all for the P or VP being the right person, regardless of gender...but why would a male P need to choose a female running mate?
The point is that there is no way in hell that they can't find "the right person" in a woman, considering how underrepresented women are by government (and considering that a woman has never held either of the two spots in the history of the nation), combined with the number of amazing women there are to choose from. There is no way in hell that a male running mate would be best over a great woman. Well, the right person for POTUS is a woman too, but America is still too sexist for that probably.
Bullshit... America is too sexist for a woman Potus? Typical horseshit broad stereotyping of Americans on the AMT...
You forgot a woman just got 3 million more votes than her opponent in a national election?
Guess what, we aslo voted for a black man, twice!
HA!! Yeah, against a guy who said grab her by the pussy???? That does say a LOT about how people feel about voting for a female POTUS: that they aren't willing to. I think it is the height of naivety to think that Trump winning didn't have something to do with sexism. To me that is crazy talk. Pure denial. YES, America is too sexist to elect a female, and the polls compared to the quality of the dem candidates right now help prove it.
What do you mean? What do the polls show in that context?
That everyone is pretty much completely focused on the men as all the front runners, despite the fact that there are women who actually bring more to the table. The males just automatically floated to the top.
Which women are bringing more to the table than let’s say Biden and Bernie? Did you think Sarah Palin was a good vp choice?
Saw a documentary about John McCain on HBO and I was surprised how negative he/they portrayed Palin and picking her as VP - pretty much stated "Sarah Palin was what lead us to Trump"
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Why? I'm all for the P or VP being the right person, regardless of gender...but why would a male P need to choose a female running mate?
The point is that there is no way in hell that they can't find "the right person" in a woman, considering how underrepresented women are by government (and considering that a woman has never held either of the two spots in the history of the nation), combined with the number of amazing women there are to choose from. There is no way in hell that a male running mate would be best over a great woman. Well, the right person for POTUS is a woman too, but America is still too sexist for that probably.
Bullshit... America is too sexist for a woman Potus? Typical horseshit broad stereotyping of Americans on the AMT...
You forgot a woman just got 3 million more votes than her opponent in a national election?
Guess what, we aslo voted for a black man, twice!
HA!! Yeah, against a guy who said grab her by the pussy???? That does say a LOT about how people feel about voting for a female POTUS: that they aren't willing to. I think it is the height of naivety to think that Trump winning didn't have something to do with sexism. To me that is crazy talk. Pure denial. YES, America is too sexist to elect a female, and the polls compared to the quality of the dem candidates right now help prove it.
What do you mean? What do the polls show in that context?
That everyone is pretty much completely focused on the men as all the front runners, despite the fact that there are women who actually bring more to the table. The males just automatically floated to the top.
Which women are bringing more to the table than let’s say Biden and Bernie? Did you think Sarah Palin was a good vp choice?
Warren is bringing more than anyone, period. And Harris is bringing more than Biden. And both of them are bringing more than Beto and Buttigieg. Yet all 4 are topping the polls.
And that is a really really really really dumb question. Obviously not. I am not someone who just think any idiot is better just because she's female.
FWIW, I don't expect a single one of you men to believe or even really understand what I'm saying on this matter, lol.
Not a fan of warren at all. I really think Biden and Beto could beat trump/pence. Beto could actually make Texas close.
Why? I'm all for the P or VP being the right person, regardless of gender...but why would a male P need to choose a female running mate?
The point is that there is no way in hell that they can't find "the right person" in a woman, considering how underrepresented women are by government (and considering that a woman has never held either of the two spots in the history of the nation), combined with the number of amazing women there are to choose from. There is no way in hell that a male running mate would be best over a great woman. Well, the right person for POTUS is a woman too, but America is still too sexist for that probably.
Bullshit... America is too sexist for a woman Potus? Typical horseshit broad stereotyping of Americans on the AMT...
You forgot a woman just got 3 million more votes than her opponent in a national election?
Guess what, we aslo voted for a black man, twice!
HA!! Yeah, against a guy who said grab her by the pussy???? That does say a LOT about how people feel about voting for a female POTUS: that they aren't willing to. I think it is the height of naivety to think that Trump winning didn't have something to do with sexism. To me that is crazy talk. Pure denial. YES, America is too sexist to elect a female, and the polls compared to the quality of the dem candidates right now help prove it.
What do you mean? What do the polls show in that context?
That everyone is pretty much completely focused on the men as all the front runners, despite the fact that there are women who actually bring more to the table. The males just automatically floated to the top.
Which women are bringing more to the table than let’s say Biden and Bernie? Did you think Sarah Palin was a good vp choice?
Saw a documentary about John McCain on HBO and I was surprised how negative he/they portrayed Palin and picking her as VP - pretty much stated "Sarah Palin was what lead us to Trump"
I believe that largely to be true. She was the beginning. She is what really got the Tea Party ball rolling, and she is what completely destroyed all logical political standards for leadership in the White House once and for all for a huge swath of Republican voters (the dumb ones - it's amazing how many of those there are).
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Why? I'm all for the P or VP being the right person, regardless of gender...but why would a male P need to choose a female running mate?
The point is that there is no way in hell that they can't find "the right person" in a woman, considering how underrepresented women are by government (and considering that a woman has never held either of the two spots in the history of the nation), combined with the number of amazing women there are to choose from. There is no way in hell that a male running mate would be best over a great woman. Well, the right person for POTUS is a woman too, but America is still too sexist for that probably.
Bullshit... America is too sexist for a woman Potus? Typical horseshit broad stereotyping of Americans on the AMT...
You forgot a woman just got 3 million more votes than her opponent in a national election?
Guess what, we aslo voted for a black man, twice!
HA!! Yeah, against a guy who said grab her by the pussy???? That does say a LOT about how people feel about voting for a female POTUS: that they aren't willing to. I think it is the height of naivety to think that Trump winning didn't have something to do with sexism. To me that is crazy talk. Pure denial. YES, America is too sexist to elect a female, and the polls compared to the quality of the dem candidates right now help prove it.
What do you mean? What do the polls show in that context?
That everyone is pretty much completely focused on the men as all the front runners, despite the fact that there are women who actually bring more to the table. The males just automatically floated to the top.
Which women are bringing more to the table than let’s say Biden and Bernie? Did you think Sarah Palin was a good vp choice?
Warren is bringing more than anyone, period. And Harris is bringing more than Biden. And both of them are bringing more than Beto and Buttigieg. Yet all 4 are topping the polls.
And that is a really really really really dumb question. Obviously not. I am not someone who just think any idiot is better just because she's female.
FWIW, I don't expect a single one of you men to believe or even really understand what I'm saying on this matter, lol.
how is it a a "really really really really dumb question" when you stated this: There is no way in hell that a male running mate would be best over a great woman
and your last statement you just added is quite a horribly sexist thing to say. what does being a man have to do with any one of us not being able to understand where you are coming from?
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You forgot a woman just got 3 million more votes than her opponent in a national election?
Guess what, we aslo voted for a black man, twice!
EDIT: Obviously Hillary was weirdly hated to by people, like Trump. Two hated people fighting to be president. Weird.
Based on everything I’ve seen/read/etc so far I’ve been disappointed in harris. Seems to not want to tackle tough issues at this point. I think that Warren has been impressive in many ways, I just happen to disagree with her a lot. Other than that, I do not see other women really gaining traction at this point. In reality, those getting attention appear to be Biden, Bernie, Warren and the newbie Pete. Is that due to sexism? Name recognition? Don’t know. Guess we will see over time. But if a women doesn’t win, it doesn’t necessarily mean sexism.
Then why was this not true in 2007?
Did you think Sarah Palin was a good vp choice?
and your last statement you just added is quite a horribly sexist thing to say. what does being a man have to do with any one of us not being able to understand where you are coming from?
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