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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Meltdown99 said:

    That’s just dumb. We know who buys them by their FEC filings, if you’re really interested. Team Trump Treason on the other hand, his jacket would be a hammer and sickle.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    cincybearcat said:
    oftenreading said:
    cincybearcat said:
    oftenreading said:
    cincybearcat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Interesting that AOC turned down this appointment. Is it because it doesn't have legislative or subpoena power? Is it because Pelosi refused the "requirement" that no one on the committee may have taken energy contributions?  Ideological purity always makes me nervous.  Better to have a diamond with a flaw than a pebble without. 

    https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/428916-pelosi-names-dems-to-new-climate-panel-but-not-aoc
    Hmmm is this what you get when you elect a lobbyist? 

    She is not doing what I would hope a Congress person would do. Of course, the precedent was set by the republicans of not compromising on Obama agenda. But she seems to be following suit in the no compromise all or none bullshit line of thinking.
    In what way is AOC a lobbyist?
    She’s got an agenda and has been unwilling to compromise even in the early going. She seems like she has a lot to learn but it’s not trending in the right direction off the bat. Heck her own speaker continue to feel the need to smack her down. 

    That's not the definition of a lobbyist. 
    You know if you want to go by pure definition...then all politicians are lobbyists.

    So maybe a poor choice in words. 
    If we go by generally accepted definition, she isn't a lobbyist.

    If we go by a strict definition, i.e. anyone who seeks to influence government, then they all are, so yes, All or None. 
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  • mrussel1
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    cincybearcat said:
    oftenreading said:
    cincybearcat said:
    oftenreading said:
    cincybearcat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Interesting that AOC turned down this appointment. Is it because it doesn't have legislative or subpoena power? Is it because Pelosi refused the "requirement" that no one on the committee may have taken energy contributions?  Ideological purity always makes me nervous.  Better to have a diamond with a flaw than a pebble without. 

    https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/428916-pelosi-names-dems-to-new-climate-panel-but-not-aoc
    Hmmm is this what you get when you elect a lobbyist? 

    She is not doing what I would hope a Congress person would do. Of course, the precedent was set by the republicans of not compromising on Obama agenda. But she seems to be following suit in the no compromise all or none bullshit line of thinking.
    In what way is AOC a lobbyist?
    She’s got an agenda and has been unwilling to compromise even in the early going. She seems like she has a lot to learn but it’s not trending in the right direction off the bat. Heck her own speaker continue to feel the need to smack her down. 

    That's not the definition of a lobbyist. 
    You know if you want to go by pure definition...then all politicians are lobbyists.

    So maybe a poor choice in words. 
    She's an ideologue. 
  • CM189191
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    cincybearcat said:
    oftenreading said:
    cincybearcat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Interesting that AOC turned down this appointment. Is it because it doesn't have legislative or subpoena power? Is it because Pelosi refused the "requirement" that no one on the committee may have taken energy contributions?  Ideological purity always makes me nervous.  Better to have a diamond with a flaw than a pebble without. 

    https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/428916-pelosi-names-dems-to-new-climate-panel-but-not-aoc
    Hmmm is this what you get when you elect a lobbyist? 

    She is not doing what I would hope a Congress person would do. Of course, the precedent was set by the republicans of not compromising on Obama agenda. But she seems to be following suit in the no compromise all or none bullshit line of thinking.
    In what way is AOC a lobbyist?
    She’s got an agenda and has been unwilling to compromise even in the early going. She seems like she has a lot to learn but it’s not trending in the right direction off the bat. Heck her own speaker continue to feel the need to smack her down. 
    I expect my politicians to have an agenda.  How is that a bad thing?  You want her just wandering the halls of Congress aimlessly?

    What has she been asked to compromise on that she hasn't?  Government's only been re-opened a couple weeks now.
  • cincybearcat
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    mrussel1 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    oftenreading said:
    cincybearcat said:
    oftenreading said:
    cincybearcat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Interesting that AOC turned down this appointment. Is it because it doesn't have legislative or subpoena power? Is it because Pelosi refused the "requirement" that no one on the committee may have taken energy contributions?  Ideological purity always makes me nervous.  Better to have a diamond with a flaw than a pebble without. 

    https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/428916-pelosi-names-dems-to-new-climate-panel-but-not-aoc
    Hmmm is this what you get when you elect a lobbyist? 

    She is not doing what I would hope a Congress person would do. Of course, the precedent was set by the republicans of not compromising on Obama agenda. But she seems to be following suit in the no compromise all or none bullshit line of thinking.
    In what way is AOC a lobbyist?
    She’s got an agenda and has been unwilling to compromise even in the early going. She seems like she has a lot to learn but it’s not trending in the right direction off the bat. Heck her own speaker continue to feel the need to smack her down. 

    That's not the definition of a lobbyist. 
    You know if you want to go by pure definition...then all politicians are lobbyists.

    So maybe a poor choice in words. 
    She's an ideologue. 
    She’s naive. But passionate. I don’t really like her but if she listens and learns she will be very effective. She is not effective yet, but it’s early
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,973
    CM189191 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    oftenreading said:
    cincybearcat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Interesting that AOC turned down this appointment. Is it because it doesn't have legislative or subpoena power? Is it because Pelosi refused the "requirement" that no one on the committee may have taken energy contributions?  Ideological purity always makes me nervous.  Better to have a diamond with a flaw than a pebble without. 

    https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/428916-pelosi-names-dems-to-new-climate-panel-but-not-aoc
    Hmmm is this what you get when you elect a lobbyist? 

    She is not doing what I would hope a Congress person would do. Of course, the precedent was set by the republicans of not compromising on Obama agenda. But she seems to be following suit in the no compromise all or none bullshit line of thinking.
    In what way is AOC a lobbyist?
    She’s got an agenda and has been unwilling to compromise even in the early going. She seems like she has a lot to learn but it’s not trending in the right direction off the bat. Heck her own speaker continue to feel the need to smack her down. 
    I expect my politicians to have an agenda.  How is that a bad thing?  You want her just wandering the halls of Congress aimlessly?

    What has she been asked to compromise on that she hasn't?  Government's only been re-opened a couple weeks now.
    She has no compromise in her yet. I think that’s a bad thing. There’s a reason she declined the appointment. 
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  • Meltdown99
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Meltdown99 said:

    That’s just dumb. We know who buys them by their FEC filings, if you’re really interested. Team Trump Treason on the other hand, his jacket would be a hammer and sickle.
    You should learn to chill...lmfao
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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    I love her.  Out with the old in with the new
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,973
    Smellyman said:
    I love her.  Out with the old in with the new
    I can understand that. I agree with that in general.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,001
    I have a healthy respect for experience. None of these candidates that were touted to be speaker could have manhandled Trump.  That was 35 years in the making. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,118
    cincybearcat said:
    oftenreading said:
    cincybearcat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Interesting that AOC turned down this appointment. Is it because it doesn't have legislative or subpoena power? Is it because Pelosi refused the "requirement" that no one on the committee may have taken energy contributions?  Ideological purity always makes me nervous.  Better to have a diamond with a flaw than a pebble without. 

    https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/428916-pelosi-names-dems-to-new-climate-panel-but-not-aoc
    Hmmm is this what you get when you elect a lobbyist? 

    She is not doing what I would hope a Congress person would do. Of course, the precedent was set by the republicans of not compromising on Obama agenda. But she seems to be following suit in the no compromise all or none bullshit line of thinking.
    In what way is AOC a lobbyist?
    She’s got an agenda and has been unwilling to compromise even in the early going. She seems like she has a lot to learn but it’s not trending in the right direction off the bat. Heck her own speaker continue to feel the need to smack her down. 
    i can understand what you are saying. but honestly, watch this and tell me it's not inspiring. 

    https://www.theguardian.com/global/video/2019/feb/08/alexandria-ocasio-cortezs-brutal-take-down-of-us-political-finance-laws-video
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    i'd like to see some of that energy in canadian politics. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Maybe she and Nancy are playing it safe? AOC has a diverse, minority liberal constituency. Nancy has to work with both sides and temper the passions. Best of both worlds. Shitty bill gets passed, AOC denies involvement and if a decent bill passes, that she supports, she claims credit for driving the establishment. The repubs just say no and further their decline into irrelevance. Climate change is on the radar of voters, both older and particularly the 35 and under crowd.
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  • Smellyman
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    cincybearcat said:
    oftenreading said:
    cincybearcat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Interesting that AOC turned down this appointment. Is it because it doesn't have legislative or subpoena power? Is it because Pelosi refused the "requirement" that no one on the committee may have taken energy contributions?  Ideological purity always makes me nervous.  Better to have a diamond with a flaw than a pebble without. 

    https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/428916-pelosi-names-dems-to-new-climate-panel-but-not-aoc
    Hmmm is this what you get when you elect a lobbyist? 

    She is not doing what I would hope a Congress person would do. Of course, the precedent was set by the republicans of not compromising on Obama agenda. But she seems to be following suit in the no compromise all or none bullshit line of thinking.
    In what way is AOC a lobbyist?
    She’s got an agenda and has been unwilling to compromise even in the early going. She seems like she has a lot to learn but it’s not trending in the right direction off the bat. Heck her own speaker continue to feel the need to smack her down. 
    i can understand what you are saying. but honestly, watch this and tell me it's not inspiring. 

    https://www.theguardian.com/global/video/2019/feb/08/alexandria-ocasio-cortezs-brutal-take-down-of-us-political-finance-laws-video
    Who wouldn't want that out of politics?


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  • CM189191
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    cincybearcat said:
    oftenreading said:
    cincybearcat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Interesting that AOC turned down this appointment. Is it because it doesn't have legislative or subpoena power? Is it because Pelosi refused the "requirement" that no one on the committee may have taken energy contributions?  Ideological purity always makes me nervous.  Better to have a diamond with a flaw than a pebble without. 

    https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/428916-pelosi-names-dems-to-new-climate-panel-but-not-aoc
    Hmmm is this what you get when you elect a lobbyist? 

    She is not doing what I would hope a Congress person would do. Of course, the precedent was set by the republicans of not compromising on Obama agenda. But she seems to be following suit in the no compromise all or none bullshit line of thinking.
    In what way is AOC a lobbyist?
    She’s got an agenda and has been unwilling to compromise even in the early going. She seems like she has a lot to learn but it’s not trending in the right direction off the bat. Heck her own speaker continue to feel the need to smack her down. 
    i can understand what you are saying. but honestly, watch this and tell me it's not inspiring. 

    https://www.theguardian.com/global/video/2019/feb/08/alexandria-ocasio-cortezs-brutal-take-down-of-us-political-finance-laws-video
    This was delightful
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,973
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    cincybearcat said:
    oftenreading said:
    cincybearcat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Interesting that AOC turned down this appointment. Is it because it doesn't have legislative or subpoena power? Is it because Pelosi refused the "requirement" that no one on the committee may have taken energy contributions?  Ideological purity always makes me nervous.  Better to have a diamond with a flaw than a pebble without. 

    https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/428916-pelosi-names-dems-to-new-climate-panel-but-not-aoc
    Hmmm is this what you get when you elect a lobbyist? 

    She is not doing what I would hope a Congress person would do. Of course, the precedent was set by the republicans of not compromising on Obama agenda. But she seems to be following suit in the no compromise all or none bullshit line of thinking.
    In what way is AOC a lobbyist?
    She’s got an agenda and has been unwilling to compromise even in the early going. She seems like she has a lot to learn but it’s not trending in the right direction off the bat. Heck her own speaker continue to feel the need to smack her down. 
    i can understand what you are saying. but honestly, watch this and tell me it's not inspiring. 

    https://www.theguardian.com/global/video/2019/feb/08/alexandria-ocasio-cortezs-brutal-take-down-of-us-political-finance-laws-video
    I’ve already said I like her passion. My concern is having yet another person in Congress (or the President) that will not compromise. Lots of time left to see, but early on she seems to show she won’t compromise and Nancy is having to manage her. We will see what happens.


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  • tempo_n_groove
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    cincybearcat said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    cincybearcat said:
    oftenreading said:
    cincybearcat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Interesting that AOC turned down this appointment. Is it because it doesn't have legislative or subpoena power? Is it because Pelosi refused the "requirement" that no one on the committee may have taken energy contributions?  Ideological purity always makes me nervous.  Better to have a diamond with a flaw than a pebble without. 

    https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/428916-pelosi-names-dems-to-new-climate-panel-but-not-aoc
    Hmmm is this what you get when you elect a lobbyist? 

    She is not doing what I would hope a Congress person would do. Of course, the precedent was set by the republicans of not compromising on Obama agenda. But she seems to be following suit in the no compromise all or none bullshit line of thinking.
    In what way is AOC a lobbyist?
    She’s got an agenda and has been unwilling to compromise even in the early going. She seems like she has a lot to learn but it’s not trending in the right direction off the bat. Heck her own speaker continue to feel the need to smack her down. 
    i can understand what you are saying. but honestly, watch this and tell me it's not inspiring. 

    https://www.theguardian.com/global/video/2019/feb/08/alexandria-ocasio-cortezs-brutal-take-down-of-us-political-finance-laws-video
    I’ve already said I like her passion. My concern is having yet another person in Congress (or the President) that will not compromise. Lots of time left to see, but early on she seems to show she won’t compromise and Nancy is having to manage her. We will see what happens.


    Let's see if she can get some momentum going.  The Bronx may love her but the rest of the law makers need to follow suit.
  • CM189191
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    cincybearcat said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    cincybearcat said:
    oftenreading said:
    cincybearcat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Interesting that AOC turned down this appointment. Is it because it doesn't have legislative or subpoena power? Is it because Pelosi refused the "requirement" that no one on the committee may have taken energy contributions?  Ideological purity always makes me nervous.  Better to have a diamond with a flaw than a pebble without. 

    https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/428916-pelosi-names-dems-to-new-climate-panel-but-not-aoc
    Hmmm is this what you get when you elect a lobbyist? 

    She is not doing what I would hope a Congress person would do. Of course, the precedent was set by the republicans of not compromising on Obama agenda. But she seems to be following suit in the no compromise all or none bullshit line of thinking.
    In what way is AOC a lobbyist?
    She’s got an agenda and has been unwilling to compromise even in the early going. She seems like she has a lot to learn but it’s not trending in the right direction off the bat. Heck her own speaker continue to feel the need to smack her down. 
    i can understand what you are saying. but honestly, watch this and tell me it's not inspiring. 

    https://www.theguardian.com/global/video/2019/feb/08/alexandria-ocasio-cortezs-brutal-take-down-of-us-political-finance-laws-video
    I’ve already said I like her passion. My concern is having yet another person in Congress (or the President) that will not compromise. Lots of time left to see, but early on she seems to show she won’t compromise and Nancy is having to manage her. We will see what happens.


    Nancy is not her boss superviser or manager.

    AOC answers to her constituents only.

    And again with the compromise... What has she been asked to compromise?  And why should she?  AOC was elected on a pretty clear set of principals and she's following thru on what she said she would.

    Quit regurgitating the narrative : "Democrats won't compromise".  When conservatives say "the left won't compromise", what they mean is "the left won't do what we want them to". 
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,973
    CM189191 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    cincybearcat said:
    oftenreading said:
    cincybearcat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Interesting that AOC turned down this appointment. Is it because it doesn't have legislative or subpoena power? Is it because Pelosi refused the "requirement" that no one on the committee may have taken energy contributions?  Ideological purity always makes me nervous.  Better to have a diamond with a flaw than a pebble without. 

    https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/428916-pelosi-names-dems-to-new-climate-panel-but-not-aoc
    Hmmm is this what you get when you elect a lobbyist? 

    She is not doing what I would hope a Congress person would do. Of course, the precedent was set by the republicans of not compromising on Obama agenda. But she seems to be following suit in the no compromise all or none bullshit line of thinking.
    In what way is AOC a lobbyist?
    She’s got an agenda and has been unwilling to compromise even in the early going. She seems like she has a lot to learn but it’s not trending in the right direction off the bat. Heck her own speaker continue to feel the need to smack her down. 
    i can understand what you are saying. but honestly, watch this and tell me it's not inspiring. 

    https://www.theguardian.com/global/video/2019/feb/08/alexandria-ocasio-cortezs-brutal-take-down-of-us-political-finance-laws-video
    I’ve already said I like her passion. My concern is having yet another person in Congress (or the President) that will not compromise. Lots of time left to see, but early on she seems to show she won’t compromise and Nancy is having to manage her. We will see what happens.


    Nancy is not her boss superviser or manager.

    AOC answers to her constituents only.

    And again with the compromise... What has she been asked to compromise?  And why should she?  AOC was elected on a pretty clear set of principals and she's following thru on what she said she would.

    Quit regurgitating the narrative : "Democrats won't compromise".  When conservatives say "the left won't compromise", what they mean is "the left won't do what we want them to". 
    Can people here really not look at issue independently?  I never said the Dem won't compromise.  AOC has only had a couple of opportunities so far and she has not done so WITHIN HER OWN PARTY.  So much so that Nancy feels the need to manage her.  

    You keep posting stuff like its some eutopia and all you have to do is be true to yourself.  Well that's not true.  You must figure out how to get shit done.  So while a lot of people are excited about AOC, I think so far she has shown she isn't ready to be effective.

    And your comment about her constituents is not true.  She had the Democratic nomination for the democratic party.  So she certainly has some need to answer to her party as well.  

    Ironically it all has me thinking about the musical Hamilton.  Which does a nice job of telling historical events.  Hamilton can't get the vote to pass his proposal for the fed to take over state debts...which he wanted to create a fiscally strong nation.  So he agreed to add moving the capitol to DC in exchange for support from the southern states (mainly Jefferson and Madison).  Yes men and women and No men and women should have no place in Congress or the White House.  The republican congress when Obama was president was awful and set a very bad precedent. 

    Anyhow - I admit it's very early and I imagine we will see more growing pains for AOC and people like her (younger, less experienced) in the future.  And while I don;t agree with her on some issues, I hope politicians become more like her WHILE she also becomes more like a politician.  We'd end up in a better place. 


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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    cincybearcat said:
    oftenreading said:
    cincybearcat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Interesting that AOC turned down this appointment. Is it because it doesn't have legislative or subpoena power? Is it because Pelosi refused the "requirement" that no one on the committee may have taken energy contributions?  Ideological purity always makes me nervous.  Better to have a diamond with a flaw than a pebble without. 

    https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/428916-pelosi-names-dems-to-new-climate-panel-but-not-aoc
    Hmmm is this what you get when you elect a lobbyist? 

    She is not doing what I would hope a Congress person would do. Of course, the precedent was set by the republicans of not compromising on Obama agenda. But she seems to be following suit in the no compromise all or none bullshit line of thinking.
    In what way is AOC a lobbyist?
    She’s got an agenda and has been unwilling to compromise even in the early going. She seems like she has a lot to learn but it’s not trending in the right direction off the bat. Heck her own speaker continue to feel the need to smack her down. 
    i can understand what you are saying. but honestly, watch this and tell me it's not inspiring. 

    https://www.theguardian.com/global/video/2019/feb/08/alexandria-ocasio-cortezs-brutal-take-down-of-us-political-finance-laws-video
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AljakpXAh7c&feature=youtu.be

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