Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez

oftenreading

mace1229 said:

Sounds like the story didn't change, just the heading. The original heading was "Here’s The Photo Some Described As A Nude Selfie Of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez."  Which honestly isn't that misleading, the title doesn't say it is a fake but definitely implies it is.
I'm still not convinced this is some right attack on the left. 
In the end was this part of a planned attack against Alexandria, or just an attempt to get more publicity (money)? If their plan was the latter, then it was a great success.

Oh, come on, it’s definitely misleading. I’d they didn’t want to deliberately mislead they would have outright said they were fake, not used the words “some described as a nude selfie...”. That implies the answer is not yet known. 

mace1229

oftenreading said:

mace1229 said:

Sounds like the story didn't change, just the heading. The original heading was "Here’s The Photo Some Described As A Nude Selfie Of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez."  Which honestly isn't that misleading, the title doesn't say it is a fake but definitely implies it is.
I'm still not convinced this is some right attack on the left. 
In the end was this part of a planned attack against Alexandria, or just an attempt to get more publicity (money)? If their plan was the latter, then it was a great success.

Oh, come on, it’s definitely misleading. I’d they didn’t want to deliberately mislead they would have outright said they were fake, not used the words “some described as a nude selfie...”. That implies the answer is not yet known. 

You're right, they could have. I just think people too much credit to news sources like this and even Fox. I hear all the time that this is what republicans rely on and are brainwashed and so on. I just don't see it.

Here is what I do see.
Not any evidence that anyone uses any of these conservative sources as their sole source of information. Why so many keep saying that I have no idea.
Their traffic flow isn't really all that big in the grand scheme. Someone linked a source of traffic and it put The Daily Caller at 17 million unique users for 2018. That to me is not a significant number. When you consider how many of those users are left leaning and are just wanting to find something to complain about (for example, I bet they had more traffic from the left than the right this last week just from others posting the article), and how many of the rest this is just one of many sources, they really aren't that significant in my opinion.  In the end more people think Elvis is still alive than probably use The Daily Caller as a main source of news.

But mostly, this is a business, they want to make money. I don't give them enough credit to be part of a grand scheme to bring down the youngest women to be elected into congress. But instead they found a story that would drive up business and they went with it. But to be fair, when I read  "Here’s The Photo Some Described As A Nude Selfie Of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez," I immediately think it is fake, but yes, it was not completely clear and they could have been more clear about that. They also used the same tactic that 100% of every media uses, they used a title that was not 100% clear. Wow. 
This just looks like a business decision from a company that wants to make money (clearly from all the ads on each page), and it worked. I bet their traffic has spiked in the last week.
 

The Juggler

mace1229 said:

Sounds like the story didn't change, just the heading. The original heading was "Here’s The Photo Some Described As A Nude Selfie Of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez."  Which honestly isn't that misleading, the title doesn't say it is a fake but definitely implies it is.
I'm still not convinced this is some right attack on the left. 
In the end was this part of a planned attack against Alexandria, or just an attempt to get more publicity (money)? If their plan was the latter, then it was a great success.

You're putting forth quite a bit of effort to defend Tucker Carlson's website....

Halifax2TheMax

mace1229 said:

oftenreading said:

mace1229 said:

Sounds like the story didn't change, just the heading. The original heading was "Here’s The Photo Some Described As A Nude Selfie Of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez."  Which honestly isn't that misleading, the title doesn't say it is a fake but definitely implies it is.
I'm still not convinced this is some right attack on the left. 
In the end was this part of a planned attack against Alexandria, or just an attempt to get more publicity (money)? If their plan was the latter, then it was a great success.

Oh, come on, it’s definitely misleading. I’d they didn’t want to deliberately mislead they would have outright said they were fake, not used the words “some described as a nude selfie...”. That implies the answer is not yet known. 

You're right, they could have. I just think people too much credit to news sources like this and even Fox. I hear all the time that this is what republicans rely on and are brainwashed and so on. I just don't see it.

Here is what I do see.
Not any evidence that anyone uses any of these conservative sources as their sole source of information. Why so many keep saying that I have no idea.
Their traffic flow isn't really all that big in the grand scheme. Someone linked a source of traffic and it put The Daily Caller at 17 million unique users for 2018. That to me is not a significant number. When you consider how many of those users are left leaning and are just wanting to find something to complain about (for example, I bet they had more traffic from the left than the right this last week just from others posting the article), and how many of the rest this is just one of many sources, they really aren't that significant in my opinion.  In the end more people think Elvis is still alive than probably use The Daily Caller as a main source of news.

But mostly, this is a business, they want to make money. I don't give them enough credit to be part of a grand scheme to bring down the youngest women to be elected into congress. But instead they found a story that would drive up business and they went with it. But to be fair, when I read  "Here’s The Photo Some Described As A Nude Selfie Of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez," I immediately think it is fake, but yes, it was not completely clear and they could have been more clear about that. They also used the same tactic that 100% of every media uses, they used a title that was not 100% clear. Wow. 
This just looks like a business decision from a company that wants to make money (clearly from all the ads on each page), and it worked. I bet their traffic has spiked in the last week.
 

You must not remember Newt Gringrich and the faxed talking points sent to every right wing media outlet? They all sounded the same, had the same talking points with answers! Do you think that doesn't continue today? Faux News, Rushbo, Hannity, etc. they all parrot the same shit. What other sources do you think the average "righty" also might tap for information?

mrussel1

mace1229 said:

oftenreading said:

mace1229 said:

Sounds like the story didn't change, just the heading. The original heading was "Here’s The Photo Some Described As A Nude Selfie Of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez."  Which honestly isn't that misleading, the title doesn't say it is a fake but definitely implies it is.
I'm still not convinced this is some right attack on the left. 
In the end was this part of a planned attack against Alexandria, or just an attempt to get more publicity (money)? If their plan was the latter, then it was a great success.

Oh, come on, it’s definitely misleading. I’d they didn’t want to deliberately mislead they would have outright said they were fake, not used the words “some described as a nude selfie...”. That implies the answer is not yet known. 

You're right, they could have. I just think people too much credit to news sources like this and even Fox. I hear all the time that this is what republicans rely on and are brainwashed and so on. I just don't see it.

Here is what I do see.
Not any evidence that anyone uses any of these conservative sources as their sole source of information. Why so many keep saying that I have no idea.
Their traffic flow isn't really all that big in the grand scheme. Someone linked a source of traffic and it put The Daily Caller at 17 million unique users for 2018. That to me is not a significant number. When you consider how many of those users are left leaning and are just wanting to find something to complain about (for example, I bet they had more traffic from the left than the right this last week just from others posting the article), and how many of the rest this is just one of many sources, they really aren't that significant in my opinion.  In the end more people think Elvis is still alive than probably use The Daily Caller as a main source of news.

But mostly, this is a business, they want to make money. I don't give them enough credit to be part of a grand scheme to bring down the youngest women to be elected into congress. But instead they found a story that would drive up business and they went with it. But to be fair, when I read  "Here’s The Photo Some Described As A Nude Selfie Of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez," I immediately think it is fake, but yes, it was not completely clear and they could have been more clear about that. They also used the same tactic that 100% of every media uses, they used a title that was not 100% clear. Wow. 
This just looks like a business decision from a company that wants to make money (clearly from all the ads on each page), and it worked. I bet their traffic has spiked in the last week.
 

Seriously?  You don't think the "echo chamber" of right wing news exists?  What center to left source do you think right wingers are using?  Fox, Breitbart, Trump, Rush, Hannity have done quite the number over the past 25 years to de-legitimize the 'lamestream' media.  It's been genius, I have to say.  But it creates a feedback loop where they are disconnected from reality.  You need to spend more time in the echo chamber, poking around, to understand the pervasiveness of it.  

mrussel1

Oh and yes.. it is a business.  You are right.  And they've built the business by destroying their competitors reputation among their targets.  It's worked perfectly.  

The Juggler

https://www.theonion.com/fox-news-debuts-premium-channel-for-24-hour-coverage-of-1831814505?utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_source=Facebook&utm_campaign=SF&utm_content=Pol

Fox News Debuts Premium Channel For 24-Hour Coverage Of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

Today 2:38pmSEE MORE: FOX NEWS

NEW YORK—As part of its effort to provide the most comprehensive reporting possible on the freshman congresswoman, Fox News announced Wednesday the debut of a new premium television channel that will offer continuous, around-the-clock updates on Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY). “For an extra $8.99 per month, you’ll have an all-access pass to the AOC Zone, which features wall-to-wall coverage of every word Ocasio-Cortez utters, as well as in-depth analysis of her wardrobe and any videos we’re able to dig up from her college days,” said Fox spokesperson Avery Mattison, adding that the new channel will include uninterrupted live footage of the 29-year-old representative every time she appears in public, along with nonstop commentary from a 12-person panel of experts. “We know our viewers will come to depend on this outlet for 24-hour coverage of AOC, which is why her tweets, Instagram posts, and her latest wacky policy proposals will appear in a ticker at the bottom of the screen. We’re particularly excited for the premiere of the channel’s flagship program, AOC Tonight With Tucker Carlson.” Minutes after AOC Zone began broadcasting, sources confirmed its ratings had already surpassed those of Fox News.

Smellyman

Fox is going to be flooded with calls to sign up.  Their viewers don't understand satire or facts.   It's a weird twilight zone where they exist.

mace1229

mrussel1 said:

mace1229 said:

oftenreading said:

mace1229 said:

Sounds like the story didn't change, just the heading. The original heading was "Here’s The Photo Some Described As A Nude Selfie Of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez."  Which honestly isn't that misleading, the title doesn't say it is a fake but definitely implies it is.
I'm still not convinced this is some right attack on the left. 
In the end was this part of a planned attack against Alexandria, or just an attempt to get more publicity (money)? If their plan was the latter, then it was a great success.

Oh, come on, it’s definitely misleading. I’d they didn’t want to deliberately mislead they would have outright said they were fake, not used the words “some described as a nude selfie...”. That implies the answer is not yet known. 

You're right, they could have. I just think people too much credit to news sources like this and even Fox. I hear all the time that this is what republicans rely on and are brainwashed and so on. I just don't see it.

Here is what I do see.
Not any evidence that anyone uses any of these conservative sources as their sole source of information. Why so many keep saying that I have no idea.
Their traffic flow isn't really all that big in the grand scheme. Someone linked a source of traffic and it put The Daily Caller at 17 million unique users for 2018. That to me is not a significant number. When you consider how many of those users are left leaning and are just wanting to find something to complain about (for example, I bet they had more traffic from the left than the right this last week just from others posting the article), and how many of the rest this is just one of many sources, they really aren't that significant in my opinion.  In the end more people think Elvis is still alive than probably use The Daily Caller as a main source of news.

But mostly, this is a business, they want to make money. I don't give them enough credit to be part of a grand scheme to bring down the youngest women to be elected into congress. But instead they found a story that would drive up business and they went with it. But to be fair, when I read  "Here’s The Photo Some Described As A Nude Selfie Of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez," I immediately think it is fake, but yes, it was not completely clear and they could have been more clear about that. They also used the same tactic that 100% of every media uses, they used a title that was not 100% clear. Wow. 
This just looks like a business decision from a company that wants to make money (clearly from all the ads on each page), and it worked. I bet their traffic has spiked in the last week.
 

Seriously?  You don't think the "echo chamber" of right wing news exists?  What center to left source do you think right wingers are using?  Fox, Breitbart, Trump, Rush, Hannity have done quite the number over the past 25 years to de-legitimize the 'lamestream' media.  It's been genius, I have to say.  But it creates a feedback loop where they are disconnected from reality.  You need to spend more time in the echo chamber, poking around, to understand the pervasiveness of it.  

I never said it doesn't. I've said this many times, but when a small percentage of a group is referred to as the whole it is wrong. And that is usually the case when the left talks about the right (and probably reverse too). Scroll through any of these threads, you will see many posts where many different users describe all republicans as hillbillies, or that their only source of news is Fox and so on. 
I'm just saying the number of republicans that actually fit into that box are very small.
And for the comment that I am working pretty hard to defend Tucker's website, I don't see how me saying I view The Daily Caller more as a business than a proper journalist site is a defense or compliment at all. Its stating my opinion on his website, but how is that a defense to it?
Clearly a lot of people here read and watch fox news because it is talked about ALL the time. So why assume the right/republicans only watch Fox and nothing else? Many will refer to republicans as brainwashed fox viewers, but in all reality I hear more people frmo the left talk about fox than from the right.

HughFreakingDillon

mace1229 said:

mrussel1 said:

mace1229 said:

oftenreading said:

mace1229 said:

Sounds like the story didn't change, just the heading. The original heading was "Here’s The Photo Some Described As A Nude Selfie Of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez."  Which honestly isn't that misleading, the title doesn't say it is a fake but definitely implies it is.
I'm still not convinced this is some right attack on the left. 
In the end was this part of a planned attack against Alexandria, or just an attempt to get more publicity (money)? If their plan was the latter, then it was a great success.

Oh, come on, it’s definitely misleading. I’d they didn’t want to deliberately mislead they would have outright said they were fake, not used the words “some described as a nude selfie...”. That implies the answer is not yet known. 

You're right, they could have. I just think people too much credit to news sources like this and even Fox. I hear all the time that this is what republicans rely on and are brainwashed and so on. I just don't see it.

Here is what I do see.
Not any evidence that anyone uses any of these conservative sources as their sole source of information. Why so many keep saying that I have no idea.
Their traffic flow isn't really all that big in the grand scheme. Someone linked a source of traffic and it put The Daily Caller at 17 million unique users for 2018. That to me is not a significant number. When you consider how many of those users are left leaning and are just wanting to find something to complain about (for example, I bet they had more traffic from the left than the right this last week just from others posting the article), and how many of the rest this is just one of many sources, they really aren't that significant in my opinion.  In the end more people think Elvis is still alive than probably use The Daily Caller as a main source of news.

But mostly, this is a business, they want to make money. I don't give them enough credit to be part of a grand scheme to bring down the youngest women to be elected into congress. But instead they found a story that would drive up business and they went with it. But to be fair, when I read  "Here’s The Photo Some Described As A Nude Selfie Of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez," I immediately think it is fake, but yes, it was not completely clear and they could have been more clear about that. They also used the same tactic that 100% of every media uses, they used a title that was not 100% clear. Wow. 
This just looks like a business decision from a company that wants to make money (clearly from all the ads on each page), and it worked. I bet their traffic has spiked in the last week.
 

Seriously?  You don't think the "echo chamber" of right wing news exists?  What center to left source do you think right wingers are using?  Fox, Breitbart, Trump, Rush, Hannity have done quite the number over the past 25 years to de-legitimize the 'lamestream' media.  It's been genius, I have to say.  But it creates a feedback loop where they are disconnected from reality.  You need to spend more time in the echo chamber, poking around, to understand the pervasiveness of it.  

I never said it doesn't. I've said this many times, but when a small percentage of a group is referred to as the whole it is wrong. And that is usually the case when the left talks about the right (and probably reverse too). Scroll through any of these threads, you will see many posts where many different users describe all republicans as hillbillies, or that their only source of news is Fox and so on. 
I'm just saying the number of republicans that actually fit into that box are very small.
And for the comment that I am working pretty hard to defend Tucker's website, I don't see how me saying I view The Daily Caller more as a business than a proper journalist site is a defense or compliment at all. Its stating my opinion on his website, but how is that a defense to it?
Clearly a lot of people here read and watch fox news because it is talked about ALL the time. So why assume the right/republicans only watch Fox and nothing else? Many will refer to republicans as brainwashed fox viewers, but in all reality I hear more people frmo the left talk about fox than from the right.

actually, I find it worse on the right. I see people referring to the GOP a lot, but mostly, when it's something being generalized, I see the words "left" way more than I see "right". 

mace1229

HughFreakingDillon said:

mace1229 said:

mrussel1 said:

mace1229 said:

oftenreading said:

mace1229 said:

Sounds like the story didn't change, just the heading. The original heading was "Here’s The Photo Some Described As A Nude Selfie Of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez."  Which honestly isn't that misleading, the title doesn't say it is a fake but definitely implies it is.
I'm still not convinced this is some right attack on the left. 
In the end was this part of a planned attack against Alexandria, or just an attempt to get more publicity (money)? If their plan was the latter, then it was a great success.

Oh, come on, it’s definitely misleading. I’d they didn’t want to deliberately mislead they would have outright said they were fake, not used the words “some described as a nude selfie...”. That implies the answer is not yet known. 

You're right, they could have. I just think people too much credit to news sources like this and even Fox. I hear all the time that this is what republicans rely on and are brainwashed and so on. I just don't see it.

Here is what I do see.
Not any evidence that anyone uses any of these conservative sources as their sole source of information. Why so many keep saying that I have no idea.
Their traffic flow isn't really all that big in the grand scheme. Someone linked a source of traffic and it put The Daily Caller at 17 million unique users for 2018. That to me is not a significant number. When you consider how many of those users are left leaning and are just wanting to find something to complain about (for example, I bet they had more traffic from the left than the right this last week just from others posting the article), and how many of the rest this is just one of many sources, they really aren't that significant in my opinion.  In the end more people think Elvis is still alive than probably use The Daily Caller as a main source of news.

But mostly, this is a business, they want to make money. I don't give them enough credit to be part of a grand scheme to bring down the youngest women to be elected into congress. But instead they found a story that would drive up business and they went with it. But to be fair, when I read  "Here’s The Photo Some Described As A Nude Selfie Of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez," I immediately think it is fake, but yes, it was not completely clear and they could have been more clear about that. They also used the same tactic that 100% of every media uses, they used a title that was not 100% clear. Wow. 
This just looks like a business decision from a company that wants to make money (clearly from all the ads on each page), and it worked. I bet their traffic has spiked in the last week.
 

Seriously?  You don't think the "echo chamber" of right wing news exists?  What center to left source do you think right wingers are using?  Fox, Breitbart, Trump, Rush, Hannity have done quite the number over the past 25 years to de-legitimize the 'lamestream' media.  It's been genius, I have to say.  But it creates a feedback loop where they are disconnected from reality.  You need to spend more time in the echo chamber, poking around, to understand the pervasiveness of it.  

I never said it doesn't. I've said this many times, but when a small percentage of a group is referred to as the whole it is wrong. And that is usually the case when the left talks about the right (and probably reverse too). Scroll through any of these threads, you will see many posts where many different users describe all republicans as hillbillies, or that their only source of news is Fox and so on. 
I'm just saying the number of republicans that actually fit into that box are very small.
And for the comment that I am working pretty hard to defend Tucker's website, I don't see how me saying I view The Daily Caller more as a business than a proper journalist site is a defense or compliment at all. Its stating my opinion on his website, but how is that a defense to it?
Clearly a lot of people here read and watch fox news because it is talked about ALL the time. So why assume the right/republicans only watch Fox and nothing else? Many will refer to republicans as brainwashed fox viewers, but in all reality I hear more people frmo the left talk about fox than from the right.

actually, I find it worse on the right. I see people referring to the GOP a lot, but mostly, when it's something being generalized, I see the words "left" way more than I see "right". 

I recognize both sides do it, but think it is worse coming from the left. Maybe not in quantity, but at least in the terms used. According to the AMT, if you own guns that means you have a small penis, 1 or 2 teeth, sleep with your sister, have a 3rd grade education and so on. It's just so ridiculous what terms are thrown around in pretty much every topic. The terms used to describe republicans are far more derogatory than most I've seen used to describe democrats. Celebrities even go on TV and talk about murdering republicans and they get cheers. Its just ridiculous at this point. 
I can't recall a single republican calling a democrat racist, sexist or anything close to that, but those are regular terms thrown around every day to describe ALL republicans. I believe Hillary actually hurt herself a lot by doing the same thing, I think she turned off many in the middle with her deplorables comment. But it has become such a standard thing to do.
My comments yesterday weren't about defending The Daily Caller, but more against all the other comments about TDC being such a major influence on the brainwashed right. 
Do people even talk to republicans here? It honestly seems like most users here live in their own bubble with the perception that if you aren't on the far left then you must fit nicely in this little box with all these stereotypes. That's what annoys me. But ironically is the same reason I keep coming back to the AMT for amusement. Sort of like how I said I bet Fox and TDC get as much traffic (or more) from those who don't agree with them than those who do.

HughFreakingDillon

mace1229 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mace1229 said:

mrussel1 said:

mace1229 said:

oftenreading said:

mace1229 said:

Sounds like the story didn't change, just the heading. The original heading was "Here’s The Photo Some Described As A Nude Selfie Of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez."  Which honestly isn't that misleading, the title doesn't say it is a fake but definitely implies it is.
I'm still not convinced this is some right attack on the left. 
In the end was this part of a planned attack against Alexandria, or just an attempt to get more publicity (money)? If their plan was the latter, then it was a great success.

Oh, come on, it’s definitely misleading. I’d they didn’t want to deliberately mislead they would have outright said they were fake, not used the words “some described as a nude selfie...”. That implies the answer is not yet known. 

You're right, they could have. I just think people too much credit to news sources like this and even Fox. I hear all the time that this is what republicans rely on and are brainwashed and so on. I just don't see it.

Here is what I do see.
Not any evidence that anyone uses any of these conservative sources as their sole source of information. Why so many keep saying that I have no idea.
Their traffic flow isn't really all that big in the grand scheme. Someone linked a source of traffic and it put The Daily Caller at 17 million unique users for 2018. That to me is not a significant number. When you consider how many of those users are left leaning and are just wanting to find something to complain about (for example, I bet they had more traffic from the left than the right this last week just from others posting the article), and how many of the rest this is just one of many sources, they really aren't that significant in my opinion.  In the end more people think Elvis is still alive than probably use The Daily Caller as a main source of news.

But mostly, this is a business, they want to make money. I don't give them enough credit to be part of a grand scheme to bring down the youngest women to be elected into congress. But instead they found a story that would drive up business and they went with it. But to be fair, when I read  "Here’s The Photo Some Described As A Nude Selfie Of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez," I immediately think it is fake, but yes, it was not completely clear and they could have been more clear about that. They also used the same tactic that 100% of every media uses, they used a title that was not 100% clear. Wow. 
This just looks like a business decision from a company that wants to make money (clearly from all the ads on each page), and it worked. I bet their traffic has spiked in the last week.
 

Seriously?  You don't think the "echo chamber" of right wing news exists?  What center to left source do you think right wingers are using?  Fox, Breitbart, Trump, Rush, Hannity have done quite the number over the past 25 years to de-legitimize the 'lamestream' media.  It's been genius, I have to say.  But it creates a feedback loop where they are disconnected from reality.  You need to spend more time in the echo chamber, poking around, to understand the pervasiveness of it.  

I never said it doesn't. I've said this many times, but when a small percentage of a group is referred to as the whole it is wrong. And that is usually the case when the left talks about the right (and probably reverse too). Scroll through any of these threads, you will see many posts where many different users describe all republicans as hillbillies, or that their only source of news is Fox and so on. 
I'm just saying the number of republicans that actually fit into that box are very small.
And for the comment that I am working pretty hard to defend Tucker's website, I don't see how me saying I view The Daily Caller more as a business than a proper journalist site is a defense or compliment at all. Its stating my opinion on his website, but how is that a defense to it?
Clearly a lot of people here read and watch fox news because it is talked about ALL the time. So why assume the right/republicans only watch Fox and nothing else? Many will refer to republicans as brainwashed fox viewers, but in all reality I hear more people frmo the left talk about fox than from the right.

actually, I find it worse on the right. I see people referring to the GOP a lot, but mostly, when it's something being generalized, I see the words "left" way more than I see "right". 

I recognize both sides do it, but think it is worse coming from the left. Maybe not in quantity, but at least in the terms used. According to the AMT, if you own guns that means you have a small penis, 1 or 2 teeth, sleep with your sister, have a 3rd grade education and so on. It's just so ridiculous what terms are thrown around in pretty much every topic. The terms used to describe republicans are far more derogatory than most I've seen used to describe democrats. Celebrities even go on TV and talk about murdering republicans and they get cheers. Its just ridiculous at this point. 
I can't recall a single republican calling a democrat racist, sexist or anything close to that, but those are regular terms thrown around every day to describe ALL republicans. I believe Hillary actually hurt herself a lot by doing the same thing, I think she turned off many in the middle with her deplorables comment. But it has become such a standard thing to do.
My comments yesterday weren't about defending The Daily Caller, but more against all the other comments about TDC being such a major influence on the brainwashed right. 
Do people even talk to republicans here? It honestly seems like most users here live in their own bubble with the perception that if you aren't on the far left then you must fit nicely in this little box with all these stereotypes. That's what annoys me. But ironically is the same reason I keep coming back to the AMT for amusement. Sort of like how I said I bet Fox and TDC get as much traffic (or more) from those who don't agree with them than those who do.

well of course you are going to get more of that on a left leaning website. I don't see much, if any, of that type of "brainless hick" talk anywhere but here. and even here, it's largely contributions from one or two members.

But I'm talking on social media as a whole. I see many people talk about triggering the left, or waiting to hear what the left has to say, like The Left is some organization that has a spokesperson. I don't see liberals doing that. I see them calling people out by name, or talking about the GOP as I mentioned. 

Celebrities go on tv talking about murdering republicans? 

You do find republicans calling democrats those terms if they fit. As I also see democrats calling fellow democrats if that fits. What I don't see, however, is republicans calling out fellow republicans when the shoe fits. 

The deplorables comment will go down as one of the biggest presidential election blunders of our time. 

I think people here talk to republicans, for sure. I've seen people mention it, whether it be family, or friends, but I think many try to avoid it now because people get so immediately angry about politics. There's no rational discourse anymore. I see it here too. 

and yes, I will say it: ON BOTH SIDES. 

I know you weren't defending the daily caller, for what it's worth. many people simply can't see the difference between arguing a point and defending the topic of that point.  

mrussel1

When the argument is clearly flawed,  how do you ascribe it to anything but defending the website? Would one prefer being accused of poor analytical skills?

HughFreakingDillon

mrussel1 said:

When the argument is clearly flawed,  how do you ascribe it to anything but defending the website? Would one prefer being accused of poor analytical skills?

how is his argument "clearly flawed"?

mrussel1

And no offense, the whole debate about the left wing being more/less bubbled than the right is just silliness and a waste of time and energy.  How can any single argument apply to 40 million people on either side?  Hold individuals accountable.  

my2hands

You guys post novels lol

Smellyman

my2hands said:

You guys post novels lol

tl;dr

mrussel1

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

When the argument is clearly flawed,  how do you ascribe it to anything but defending the website? Would one prefer being accused of poor analytical skills?

how is his argument "clearly flawed"?

Mace said this: The only story I saw the The Daily Caller, and it was also falsely referenced earlier as promoting the pictures, actually never showed or promoted them. But in fact reported that they were fake and spoke out against it. So did many other news sources. Even Alexandria herself spoke out against the fake pictures, so does that make her part of the conspiracy too?

And this: Sounds like the story didn't change, just the heading. The original heading was "Here’s The Photo Some Described As A Nude Selfie Of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez."  Which honestly isn't that misleading, the title doesn't say it is a fake but definitely implies it is.
I'm still not convinced this is some right attack on the left. 

When you look at the Daily Caller's original post and the fact that they amended it and removed from their site, after the backlash, how can one argue that it wasn't misleading?  How can one read that headline and say it wasn't misleading, unless using willful ignorance.  Has the Daily Caller made a habit of posting celebrity nudes or is AOC the first one?  If she's the first one, why her?  

This is what I mean by flawed. 

oftenreading

Quotes are getting too long, so starting anew. Mace, if you can’t recall republicans calling democrats racist or sexist, there’s a very good reason for it; actually, several good reasons, which are (a) republicans know that members of their own party commit racist and sexist acts every day, so (b) it would be hypocritical for them to call out Democrats for their less common and generally less egregious incidents, and (c) the party doesn’t seem to see much of a problem with racism and sexism any. Look what it took for any of them to call out Steve King, and they’re not even united in that.

HughFreakingDillon

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

When the argument is clearly flawed,  how do you ascribe it to anything but defending the website? Would one prefer being accused of poor analytical skills?

how is his argument "clearly flawed"?

Mace said this: The only story I saw the The Daily Caller, and it was also falsely referenced earlier as promoting the pictures, actually never showed or promoted them. But in fact reported that they were fake and spoke out against it. So did many other news sources. Even Alexandria herself spoke out against the fake pictures, so does that make her part of the conspiracy too?

And this: Sounds like the story didn't change, just the heading. The original heading was "Here’s The Photo Some Described As A Nude Selfie Of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez."  Which honestly isn't that misleading, the title doesn't say it is a fake but definitely implies it is.
I'm still not convinced this is some right attack on the left. 

When you look at the Daily Caller's original post and the fact that they amended it and removed from their site, after the backlash, how can one argue that it wasn't misleading?  How can one read that headline and say it wasn't misleading, unless using willful ignorance.  Has the Daily Caller made a habit of posting celebrity nudes or is AOC the first one?  If she's the first one, why her?  

This is what I mean by flawed. 

is the website trash? yes. was the headline misleading? somewhat. 

we could be talking about the daily caller here or alternative nation. honestly, all websites do it to create traffic.