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  • More diappearing headlines in all their brilliant brilliance of brilliancy.

    New York federal prosecutors seek interviews with Trump Organization executives


    The subpoena, a copy of which was reviewed by CNN, also disclosed that prosecutors are investigating an array of potential crimes, including conspiracy against the US, false statements, mail fraud, wire fraud, money laundering, inaugural committee disclosure violations, and violations of laws prohibiting contributions by foreign nations and contributions in the name of another person, also known as straw donors.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/05/politics/new-york-federal-prosecutors-trump-organization-executives/index.html
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  • Wobbie
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    wait? what?

    trump wants FMLA so new parents can hold their precious children? wasn’t trump fucking stormy after barron was born?
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • josevolution
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    Wobbie said:
    wait? what?

    trump wants FMLA so new parents can hold their precious children? wasn’t trump fucking stormy after barron was born?
    Lmao so true 
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  • Bentleyspop
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  • pjl44
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    In case any of the "she never said herself...." crowd missed WaPo's story yesterday.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    pjl44 said:


    In case any of the "she never said herself...." crowd missed WaPo's story yesterday.
    To me, this just shows she’s believed in this narrative about her heritage for decades, because this is dated 1986. It wasn’t something put on for political gain. It turns out it was incorrect, but it seems to have been a genuine belief. 

    More and more people are now finding out that their heritage isn’t what they believed and what they were taught, and there will be a lot more fallout from that. 
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited February 2019
    pjl44 said:


    In case any of the "she never said herself...." crowd missed WaPo's story yesterday.
    To me, this just shows she’s believed in this narrative about her heritage for decades, because this is dated 1986. It wasn’t something put on for political gain. It turns out it was incorrect, but it seems to have been a genuine belief. 

    More and more people are now finding out that their heritage isn’t what they believed and what they were taught, and there will be a lot more fallout from that. 
    So ignorance IS an excuse?  Most people that actually put “American Indian” as their race have a bit more than a fake story or two to back it up if I were to guess...Moral of the story, “If you are going to make a claim, have something to back it up”.  Or just simply “Don’t lie on college applications”.  Because one day it could kill your chances for running for President, lol
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  • PJPOWER said:
    pjl44 said:


    In case any of the "she never said herself...." crowd missed WaPo's story yesterday.
    To me, this just shows she’s believed in this narrative about her heritage for decades, because this is dated 1986. It wasn’t something put on for political gain. It turns out it was incorrect, but it seems to have been a genuine belief. 

    More and more people are now finding out that their heritage isn’t what they believed and what they were taught, and there will be a lot more fallout from that. 
    So ignorance IS an excuse?  Most people that actually put “American Indian” as their race have a bit more than a fake story or two to back it up if I were to guess...
    Well, you do see who’s in the White House, right?
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  • cincybearcat
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    pjl44 said:


    In case any of the "she never said herself...." crowd missed WaPo's story yesterday.
    To me, this just shows she’s believed in this narrative about her heritage for decades, because this is dated 1986. It wasn’t something put on for political gain. It turns out it was incorrect, but it seems to have been a genuine belief. 

    More and more people are now finding out that their heritage isn’t what they believed and what they were taught, and there will be a lot more fallout from that. 
    Talk about cultural appropriation. She's done.  But let's be honest, she never really had a shot anyhow.
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  • PJPOWER
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    PJPOWER said:
    pjl44 said:


    In case any of the "she never said herself...." crowd missed WaPo's story yesterday.
    To me, this just shows she’s believed in this narrative about her heritage for decades, because this is dated 1986. It wasn’t something put on for political gain. It turns out it was incorrect, but it seems to have been a genuine belief. 

    More and more people are now finding out that their heritage isn’t what they believed and what they were taught, and there will be a lot more fallout from that. 
    So ignorance IS an excuse?  Most people that actually put “American Indian” as their race have a bit more than a fake story or two to back it up if I were to guess...
    Well, you do see who’s in the White House, right?
    Fair point, ha
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    pjl44 said:


    In case any of the "she never said herself...." crowd missed WaPo's story yesterday.
    To me, this just shows she’s believed in this narrative about her heritage for decades, because this is dated 1986. It wasn’t something put on for political gain. It turns out it was incorrect, but it seems to have been a genuine belief. 

    More and more people are now finding out that their heritage isn’t what they believed and what they were taught, and there will be a lot more fallout from that. 
    Talk about cultural appropriation. She's done.  But let's be honest, she never really had a shot anyhow.
    Is it cultural appropriation if your parents told you from when you were small that that’s your heritage and you believed them? Obviously it isn’t; no reasonable person would say that. It’s only been within the last few years that there’s even been a way to test that. Previously we basically just believed what we were told from prior generations, who clearly are not uncommonly wrong, either due to their own misinformation or because they were hiding something. And my comment has nothing to do with Warren’s chances at election, just with common sense. 

    Since I was small, my family has told me that I am Irish on one side, three generations back, and the usual mixed Northern European on the other, and that’s what I’ve told people if they asked. If I ever was to do a DNA test and find that I don’t actually have Irish heritage, have I been guilty of cultural appropriation all along? No, because that’s absurd. 
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    Wobbie said:
    wait? what?

    trump wants FMLA so new parents can hold their precious children? wasn’t trump fucking stormy after barron was born?
    Is that what he called it?  Fucking?  Doubtful.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,826
    pjl44 said:


    In case any of the "she never said herself...." crowd missed WaPo's story yesterday.
    To me, this just shows she’s believed in this narrative about her heritage for decades, because this is dated 1986. It wasn’t something put on for political gain. It turns out it was incorrect, but it seems to have been a genuine belief. 

    More and more people are now finding out that their heritage isn’t what they believed and what they were taught, and there will be a lot more fallout from that. 
    Talk about cultural appropriation. She's done.  But let's be honest, she never really had a shot anyhow.
    Is it cultural appropriation if your parents told you from when you were small that that’s your heritage and you believed them? Obviously it isn’t; no reasonable person would say that. It’s only been within the last few years that there’s even been a way to test that. Previously we basically just believed what we were told from prior generations, who clearly are not uncommonly wrong, either due to their own misinformation or because they were hiding something. And my comment has nothing to do with Warren’s chances at election, just with common sense. 

    Since I was small, my family has told me that I am Irish on one side, three generations back, and the usual mixed Northern European on the other, and that’s what I’ve told people if they asked. If I ever was to do a DNA test and find that I don’t actually have Irish heritage, have I been guilty of cultural appropriation all along? No, because that’s absurd. 
    She was 37 years old.  She was an adult.  Adults don't put down race or any info based on family stories.  She is either 1) Really stupid 2) Naive 3) Gaming the system....I don't think she's stupid.
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  • rgambs
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    pjl44 said:


    In case any of the "she never said herself...." crowd missed WaPo's story yesterday.
    Wow, well in that case, I think the leader of the free world and the role model of the nation of US America should probably commence forthwith to petty childish nicknames in public!

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  • pjl44
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    pjl44 said:


    In case any of the "she never said herself...." crowd missed WaPo's story yesterday.
    To me, this just shows she’s believed in this narrative about her heritage for decades, because this is dated 1986. It wasn’t something put on for political gain. It turns out it was incorrect, but it seems to have been a genuine belief. 

    More and more people are now finding out that their heritage isn’t what they believed and what they were taught, and there will be a lot more fallout from that. 
    I agree with your overall point. If only she had addressed it honestly and contritely from the moment this issue was raised. Instead she dug in and handed it like a politician for years.
  • I'm assuming that trying to discredit Warren in the Trump thread is an attempt to discredit one of Mushroom Dick's opponents?

    Fair enough if so, but is that all people can prop up to counter the mountain of obscenity Fatass has generated for himself?

    Just like I'm not holding my breath for a new Tool album in April, I'm not thinking impeachment is going to happen. I'm thinking the next election will reveal what America truly is without any excuses. I'm confident the orange unit will unceremoniously be dumped; however, if the unlikely alternative scenario plays out... that would be damning.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    pjl44 said:


    In case any of the "she never said herself...." crowd missed WaPo's story yesterday.
    To me, this just shows she’s believed in this narrative about her heritage for decades, because this is dated 1986. It wasn’t something put on for political gain. It turns out it was incorrect, but it seems to have been a genuine belief. 

    More and more people are now finding out that their heritage isn’t what they believed and what they were taught, and there will be a lot more fallout from that. 
    Talk about cultural appropriation. She's done.  But let's be honest, she never really had a shot anyhow.
    Is it cultural appropriation if your parents told you from when you were small that that’s your heritage and you believed them? Obviously it isn’t; no reasonable person would say that. It’s only been within the last few years that there’s even been a way to test that. Previously we basically just believed what we were told from prior generations, who clearly are not uncommonly wrong, either due to their own misinformation or because they were hiding something. And my comment has nothing to do with Warren’s chances at election, just with common sense. 

    Since I was small, my family has told me that I am Irish on one side, three generations back, and the usual mixed Northern European on the other, and that’s what I’ve told people if they asked. If I ever was to do a DNA test and find that I don’t actually have Irish heritage, have I been guilty of cultural appropriation all along? No, because that’s absurd. 
    She was 37 years old.  She was an adult.  Adults don't put down race or any info based on family stories.  She is either 1) Really stupid 2) Naive 3) Gaming the system....I don't think she's stupid.

    The doubling down on this is kind of funny. Of course adults put down this sort of info on forms based on family history - where else were they to get it in 1986? Whether she was 7 or 17 or 37, all she had was family stories. DNA testing wasn't available for decades after this. 
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    pjl44 said:
    pjl44 said:


    In case any of the "she never said herself...." crowd missed WaPo's story yesterday.
    To me, this just shows she’s believed in this narrative about her heritage for decades, because this is dated 1986. It wasn’t something put on for political gain. It turns out it was incorrect, but it seems to have been a genuine belief. 

    More and more people are now finding out that their heritage isn’t what they believed and what they were taught, and there will be a lot more fallout from that. 
    I agree with your overall point. If only she had addressed it honestly and contritely from the moment this issue was raised. Instead she dug in and handed it like a politician for years.
    Her handling of it when the DNA results came out didn't help the optics of it, certainly. However, I don't think there was any was that she could have handled it that wouldn't lead to the same criticism, given the ones handing out the criticism. 
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
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  • pjl44 said:
    pjl44 said:


    In case any of the "she never said herself...." crowd missed WaPo's story yesterday.
    To me, this just shows she’s believed in this narrative about her heritage for decades, because this is dated 1986. It wasn’t something put on for political gain. It turns out it was incorrect, but it seems to have been a genuine belief. 

    More and more people are now finding out that their heritage isn’t what they believed and what they were taught, and there will be a lot more fallout from that. 
    I agree with your overall point. If only she had addressed it honestly and contritely from the moment this issue was raised. Instead she dug in and handed it like a politician for years.
    Her handling of it when the DNA results came out didn't help the optics of it, certainly. However, I don't think there was any was that she could have handled it that wouldn't lead to the same criticism, given the ones handing out the criticism. 
    Team Trump Treason can only win via the politics of personal destruction rather than policy. He’s going to avoid debating at all costs and if he does, he’ll stammer and come across as the disengaged idiot that he is. Nipple and Button, anyone?
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