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HesCalledDyer said:
Why does it always have to be about sides? When are people going to wake up and realize the only two sides are the government and the people. And the former isn't working for the latter. Democrats, Republicans. The only difference between the two is which group of billionaires they pander to.my2hands said:I love watching people twist into pretzels trying to explain and excuse away Pocahontas.... she is whiter than mayonnaise, thought she was Native American because granny said so? lol
Some of ya'll are either really naive or just refuse to own shit when its your side
She fucked up and has zero shot in a primary now... move onI don't agree that there is no difference between the Dems and Reps right now at all. At some point in the past that was true. Not anymore. Not even close. I think saying that ignores a whole lot of obvious facts. that doesn't mean I don't acknowledge that money has a huge role on both sides. Of course that is true, and of course the government can't generally be trusted in any case. But that isn't at all enough to make the Dems and Reps the the same, nor to say that one is against the people as much as the other. I think it's beyond obvious that one is more against the people than the other now.As for my2hands' comment.... I can't speak for anyone else, but my view on that has nothing at all to do with sides. The only place my mind goes with that is genealogy and other aspects of how family histories are built (real or conjured over time). My mother is really into this, so I've learned a lot through her, and really understand how powerful and impactful oral family histories and family myths can be, and how self-identity relies on that FAR FAR FAR more than so many people (especially my2hands, apparently) seem to give it credit for, and so much more than genes/DNA does. The "family myth" is a powerful influencer that is not normally under the control of the person receiving the information - absorbing the myth - all their lives since childhood.Post edited by PJ_Soul onWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Quit playing word games. You know what these means.Halifax2TheMax said:
Because being outraged or claiming that what Elizabeth Warren has done should disqualify her for running for president is complete and utter bullshit and I thought you might be smart enough to realize that but apparently not. Its not such an egregious transgression that rises to the level some would like it to rise to. "Warren is still done." Guess she should resign the senate too? Keep up the faux outrage over something so insignificant, its fitting.cincybearcat said:
I’m not comparing. You are. Warren is still wrong and she’s done.Halifax2TheMax said:
Because claiming Native American heritage doesn’t come anywhere close to the transgressions of Team Trump Treason. If Elizabeth Warren sexually assaulted men, bragged about it, scammed consumers out of millions of dollars, declared bankruptcy multiple times, cheated on her taxes, laundered money, conspired with a foreign power to throw her election to her, then we could have a rational conversation about equal condemnation. Both sides are not the same so stop positing that what Elizabeth Warren did is as bad as what Team Trump Treason did or will do.cincybearcat said:
I’m confused at why anything someone that opposing trump does is ok and anything someone that supports trump does is bad.Halifax2TheMax said:
Team Trump Treason can only win via the politics of personal destruction rather than policy. He’s going to avoid debating at all costs and if he does, he’ll stammer and come across as the disengaged idiot that he is. Nipple and Button, anyone?oftenreading said:
Her handling of it when the DNA results came out didn't help the optics of it, certainly. However, I don't think there was any was that she could have handled it that wouldn't lead to the same criticism, given the ones handing out the criticism.pjl44 said:
I agree with your overall point. If only she had addressed it honestly and contritely from the moment this issue was raised. Instead she dug in and handed it like a politician for years.oftenreading said:
To me, this just shows she’s believed in this narrative about her heritage for decades, because this is dated 1986. It wasn’t something put on for political gain. It turns out it was incorrect, but it seems to have been a genuine belief.pjl44 said:
In case any of the "she never said herself...." crowd missed WaPo's story yesterday.
More and more people are now finding out that their heritage isn’t what they believed and what they were taught, and there will be a lot more fallout from that.
Defending Warren on this is pretty weak. Heck it was the Washington Post, not Fox News. I’m not sure when we all lost the ability to see the good vs bad regardless of party.
where did you get that from??? The comparison? You are ignoring her stupidity and her bad move because it’s not as bad as trump? Is that right?hippiemom = goodness0 -
For the record I don;t care you called me stupid other than you wonder why I keep responding to your posts. I'm not letting you do it and not get a response.hippiemom = goodness0
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I remember you had a shit fit when I said something similar to you, FWIW.cincybearcat said:
Quit playing word games. You know what these means.Halifax2TheMax said:
Because being outraged or claiming that what Elizabeth Warren has done should disqualify her for running for president is complete and utter bullshit and I thought you might be smart enough to realize that but apparently not. Its not such an egregious transgression that rises to the level some would like it to rise to. "Warren is still done." Guess she should resign the senate too? Keep up the faux outrage over something so insignificant, its fitting.cincybearcat said:
I’m not comparing. You are. Warren is still wrong and she’s done.Halifax2TheMax said:
Because claiming Native American heritage doesn’t come anywhere close to the transgressions of Team Trump Treason. If Elizabeth Warren sexually assaulted men, bragged about it, scammed consumers out of millions of dollars, declared bankruptcy multiple times, cheated on her taxes, laundered money, conspired with a foreign power to throw her election to her, then we could have a rational conversation about equal condemnation. Both sides are not the same so stop positing that what Elizabeth Warren did is as bad as what Team Trump Treason did or will do.cincybearcat said:
I’m confused at why anything someone that opposing trump does is ok and anything someone that supports trump does is bad.Halifax2TheMax said:
Team Trump Treason can only win via the politics of personal destruction rather than policy. He’s going to avoid debating at all costs and if he does, he’ll stammer and come across as the disengaged idiot that he is. Nipple and Button, anyone?oftenreading said:
Her handling of it when the DNA results came out didn't help the optics of it, certainly. However, I don't think there was any was that she could have handled it that wouldn't lead to the same criticism, given the ones handing out the criticism.pjl44 said:
I agree with your overall point. If only she had addressed it honestly and contritely from the moment this issue was raised. Instead she dug in and handed it like a politician for years.oftenreading said:
To me, this just shows she’s believed in this narrative about her heritage for decades, because this is dated 1986. It wasn’t something put on for political gain. It turns out it was incorrect, but it seems to have been a genuine belief.pjl44 said:
In case any of the "she never said herself...." crowd missed WaPo's story yesterday.
More and more people are now finding out that their heritage isn’t what they believed and what they were taught, and there will be a lot more fallout from that.
Defending Warren on this is pretty weak. Heck it was the Washington Post, not Fox News. I’m not sure when we all lost the ability to see the good vs bad regardless of party.
where did you get that from??? The comparison? You are ignoring her stupidity and her bad move because it’s not as bad as trump? Is that right?
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Not being smart enough to realize something is not the same as being stupid. It’s not word games. I never called you stupid but you’re the one claiming I did.cincybearcat said:
Quit playing word games. You know what these means.Halifax2TheMax said:
Because being outraged or claiming that what Elizabeth Warren has done should disqualify her for running for president is complete and utter bullshit and I thought you might be smart enough to realize that but apparently not. Its not such an egregious transgression that rises to the level some would like it to rise to. "Warren is still done." Guess she should resign the senate too? Keep up the faux outrage over something so insignificant, its fitting.cincybearcat said:
I’m not comparing. You are. Warren is still wrong and she’s done.Halifax2TheMax said:
Because claiming Native American heritage doesn’t come anywhere close to the transgressions of Team Trump Treason. If Elizabeth Warren sexually assaulted men, bragged about it, scammed consumers out of millions of dollars, declared bankruptcy multiple times, cheated on her taxes, laundered money, conspired with a foreign power to throw her election to her, then we could have a rational conversation about equal condemnation. Both sides are not the same so stop positing that what Elizabeth Warren did is as bad as what Team Trump Treason did or will do.cincybearcat said:
I’m confused at why anything someone that opposing trump does is ok and anything someone that supports trump does is bad.Halifax2TheMax said:
Team Trump Treason can only win via the politics of personal destruction rather than policy. He’s going to avoid debating at all costs and if he does, he’ll stammer and come across as the disengaged idiot that he is. Nipple and Button, anyone?oftenreading said:
Her handling of it when the DNA results came out didn't help the optics of it, certainly. However, I don't think there was any was that she could have handled it that wouldn't lead to the same criticism, given the ones handing out the criticism.pjl44 said:
I agree with your overall point. If only she had addressed it honestly and contritely from the moment this issue was raised. Instead she dug in and handed it like a politician for years.oftenreading said:
To me, this just shows she’s believed in this narrative about her heritage for decades, because this is dated 1986. It wasn’t something put on for political gain. It turns out it was incorrect, but it seems to have been a genuine belief.pjl44 said:
In case any of the "she never said herself...." crowd missed WaPo's story yesterday.
More and more people are now finding out that their heritage isn’t what they believed and what they were taught, and there will be a lot more fallout from that.
Defending Warren on this is pretty weak. Heck it was the Washington Post, not Fox News. I’m not sure when we all lost the ability to see the good vs bad regardless of party.
where did you get that from??? The comparison? You are ignoring her stupidity and her bad move because it’s not as bad as trump? Is that right?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Ah, a "shit fit". Nice.PJ_Soul said:
I remember you had a shit fit when I said something similar to you, FWIW.cincybearcat said:
Quit playing word games. You know what these means.Halifax2TheMax said:
Because being outraged or claiming that what Elizabeth Warren has done should disqualify her for running for president is complete and utter bullshit and I thought you might be smart enough to realize that but apparently not. Its not such an egregious transgression that rises to the level some would like it to rise to. "Warren is still done." Guess she should resign the senate too? Keep up the faux outrage over something so insignificant, its fitting.cincybearcat said:
I’m not comparing. You are. Warren is still wrong and she’s done.Halifax2TheMax said:
Because claiming Native American heritage doesn’t come anywhere close to the transgressions of Team Trump Treason. If Elizabeth Warren sexually assaulted men, bragged about it, scammed consumers out of millions of dollars, declared bankruptcy multiple times, cheated on her taxes, laundered money, conspired with a foreign power to throw her election to her, then we could have a rational conversation about equal condemnation. Both sides are not the same so stop positing that what Elizabeth Warren did is as bad as what Team Trump Treason did or will do.cincybearcat said:
I’m confused at why anything someone that opposing trump does is ok and anything someone that supports trump does is bad.Halifax2TheMax said:
Team Trump Treason can only win via the politics of personal destruction rather than policy. He’s going to avoid debating at all costs and if he does, he’ll stammer and come across as the disengaged idiot that he is. Nipple and Button, anyone?oftenreading said:
Her handling of it when the DNA results came out didn't help the optics of it, certainly. However, I don't think there was any was that she could have handled it that wouldn't lead to the same criticism, given the ones handing out the criticism.pjl44 said:
I agree with your overall point. If only she had addressed it honestly and contritely from the moment this issue was raised. Instead she dug in and handed it like a politician for years.oftenreading said:
To me, this just shows she’s believed in this narrative about her heritage for decades, because this is dated 1986. It wasn’t something put on for political gain. It turns out it was incorrect, but it seems to have been a genuine belief.pjl44 said:
In case any of the "she never said herself...." crowd missed WaPo's story yesterday.
More and more people are now finding out that their heritage isn’t what they believed and what they were taught, and there will be a lot more fallout from that.
Defending Warren on this is pretty weak. Heck it was the Washington Post, not Fox News. I’m not sure when we all lost the ability to see the good vs bad regardless of party.
where did you get that from??? The comparison? You are ignoring her stupidity and her bad move because it’s not as bad as trump? Is that right?
Here's a shit fit for you, I knew you'd be jumping in on this. Cause you and Halifax share a lot of the same traits.hippiemom = goodness0 -
"I thought you were smart enough....but I guess i was wrong".Halifax2TheMax said:
Please point me to where I called you “stupid?” Making shit up again. See? It works both ways.cincybearcat said:https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/06/politics/elizabeth-warren-native-american/index.html
This.
Ok, unless someone else wants to call me stupid or say I said things I didn't say I'm done with this.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
To realize something. You forgot that part.HughFreakingDillon said:
"I thought you were smart enough....but I guess i was wrong".Halifax2TheMax said:
Please point me to where I called you “stupid?” Making shit up again. See? It works both ways.cincybearcat said:https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/06/politics/elizabeth-warren-native-american/index.html
This.
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cincybearcat said:
Ah, a "shit fit". Nice.PJ_Soul said:
I remember you had a shit fit when I said something similar to you, FWIW.cincybearcat said:
Quit playing word games. You know what these means.Halifax2TheMax said:
Because being outraged or claiming that what Elizabeth Warren has done should disqualify her for running for president is complete and utter bullshit and I thought you might be smart enough to realize that but apparently not. Its not such an egregious transgression that rises to the level some would like it to rise to. "Warren is still done." Guess she should resign the senate too? Keep up the faux outrage over something so insignificant, its fitting.cincybearcat said:
I’m not comparing. You are. Warren is still wrong and she’s done.Halifax2TheMax said:
Because claiming Native American heritage doesn’t come anywhere close to the transgressions of Team Trump Treason. If Elizabeth Warren sexually assaulted men, bragged about it, scammed consumers out of millions of dollars, declared bankruptcy multiple times, cheated on her taxes, laundered money, conspired with a foreign power to throw her election to her, then we could have a rational conversation about equal condemnation. Both sides are not the same so stop positing that what Elizabeth Warren did is as bad as what Team Trump Treason did or will do.cincybearcat said:
I’m confused at why anything someone that opposing trump does is ok and anything someone that supports trump does is bad.Halifax2TheMax said:
Team Trump Treason can only win via the politics of personal destruction rather than policy. He’s going to avoid debating at all costs and if he does, he’ll stammer and come across as the disengaged idiot that he is. Nipple and Button, anyone?oftenreading said:
Her handling of it when the DNA results came out didn't help the optics of it, certainly. However, I don't think there was any was that she could have handled it that wouldn't lead to the same criticism, given the ones handing out the criticism.pjl44 said:
I agree with your overall point. If only she had addressed it honestly and contritely from the moment this issue was raised. Instead she dug in and handed it like a politician for years.oftenreading said:
To me, this just shows she’s believed in this narrative about her heritage for decades, because this is dated 1986. It wasn’t something put on for political gain. It turns out it was incorrect, but it seems to have been a genuine belief.pjl44 said:
In case any of the "she never said herself...." crowd missed WaPo's story yesterday.
More and more people are now finding out that their heritage isn’t what they believed and what they were taught, and there will be a lot more fallout from that.
Defending Warren on this is pretty weak. Heck it was the Washington Post, not Fox News. I’m not sure when we all lost the ability to see the good vs bad regardless of party.
where did you get that from??? The comparison? You are ignoring her stupidity and her bad move because it’s not as bad as trump? Is that right?
Here's a shit fit for you, I knew you'd be jumping in on this. Cause you and Halifax share a lot of the same traits.Good. I like Halifax, I'll take that as a compliment. Thanks!Not sure why you're bothered by what I said though. You like to point out inconsistencies in other people's posts. I guess that's a trait you and I have in common! How full circle-y, lol.With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
it's passive aggressive bullshit and you know it.PJ_Soul said:
I remember you had a shit fit when I said something similar to you, FWIW.cincybearcat said:
Quit playing word games. You know what these means.Halifax2TheMax said:
Because being outraged or claiming that what Elizabeth Warren has done should disqualify her for running for president is complete and utter bullshit and I thought you might be smart enough to realize that but apparently not. Its not such an egregious transgression that rises to the level some would like it to rise to. "Warren is still done." Guess she should resign the senate too? Keep up the faux outrage over something so insignificant, its fitting.cincybearcat said:
I’m not comparing. You are. Warren is still wrong and she’s done.Halifax2TheMax said:
Because claiming Native American heritage doesn’t come anywhere close to the transgressions of Team Trump Treason. If Elizabeth Warren sexually assaulted men, bragged about it, scammed consumers out of millions of dollars, declared bankruptcy multiple times, cheated on her taxes, laundered money, conspired with a foreign power to throw her election to her, then we could have a rational conversation about equal condemnation. Both sides are not the same so stop positing that what Elizabeth Warren did is as bad as what Team Trump Treason did or will do.cincybearcat said:
I’m confused at why anything someone that opposing trump does is ok and anything someone that supports trump does is bad.Halifax2TheMax said:
Team Trump Treason can only win via the politics of personal destruction rather than policy. He’s going to avoid debating at all costs and if he does, he’ll stammer and come across as the disengaged idiot that he is. Nipple and Button, anyone?oftenreading said:
Her handling of it when the DNA results came out didn't help the optics of it, certainly. However, I don't think there was any was that she could have handled it that wouldn't lead to the same criticism, given the ones handing out the criticism.pjl44 said:
I agree with your overall point. If only she had addressed it honestly and contritely from the moment this issue was raised. Instead she dug in and handed it like a politician for years.oftenreading said:
To me, this just shows she’s believed in this narrative about her heritage for decades, because this is dated 1986. It wasn’t something put on for political gain. It turns out it was incorrect, but it seems to have been a genuine belief.pjl44 said:
In case any of the "she never said herself...." crowd missed WaPo's story yesterday.
More and more people are now finding out that their heritage isn’t what they believed and what they were taught, and there will be a lot more fallout from that.
Defending Warren on this is pretty weak. Heck it was the Washington Post, not Fox News. I’m not sure when we all lost the ability to see the good vs bad regardless of party.
where did you get that from??? The comparison? You are ignoring her stupidity and her bad move because it’s not as bad as trump? Is that right?By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Oh wow, welcome back, lol. Nice entrance.HughFreakingDillon said:
it's passive aggressive bullshit and you know it.PJ_Soul said:
I remember you had a shit fit when I said something similar to you, FWIW.cincybearcat said:
Quit playing word games. You know what these means.Halifax2TheMax said:
Because being outraged or claiming that what Elizabeth Warren has done should disqualify her for running for president is complete and utter bullshit and I thought you might be smart enough to realize that but apparently not. Its not such an egregious transgression that rises to the level some would like it to rise to. "Warren is still done." Guess she should resign the senate too? Keep up the faux outrage over something so insignificant, its fitting.cincybearcat said:
I’m not comparing. You are. Warren is still wrong and she’s done.Halifax2TheMax said:
Because claiming Native American heritage doesn’t come anywhere close to the transgressions of Team Trump Treason. If Elizabeth Warren sexually assaulted men, bragged about it, scammed consumers out of millions of dollars, declared bankruptcy multiple times, cheated on her taxes, laundered money, conspired with a foreign power to throw her election to her, then we could have a rational conversation about equal condemnation. Both sides are not the same so stop positing that what Elizabeth Warren did is as bad as what Team Trump Treason did or will do.cincybearcat said:
I’m confused at why anything someone that opposing trump does is ok and anything someone that supports trump does is bad.Halifax2TheMax said:
Team Trump Treason can only win via the politics of personal destruction rather than policy. He’s going to avoid debating at all costs and if he does, he’ll stammer and come across as the disengaged idiot that he is. Nipple and Button, anyone?oftenreading said:
Her handling of it when the DNA results came out didn't help the optics of it, certainly. However, I don't think there was any was that she could have handled it that wouldn't lead to the same criticism, given the ones handing out the criticism.pjl44 said:
I agree with your overall point. If only she had addressed it honestly and contritely from the moment this issue was raised. Instead she dug in and handed it like a politician for years.oftenreading said:
To me, this just shows she’s believed in this narrative about her heritage for decades, because this is dated 1986. It wasn’t something put on for political gain. It turns out it was incorrect, but it seems to have been a genuine belief.pjl44 said:
In case any of the "she never said herself...." crowd missed WaPo's story yesterday.
More and more people are now finding out that their heritage isn’t what they believed and what they were taught, and there will be a lot more fallout from that.
Defending Warren on this is pretty weak. Heck it was the Washington Post, not Fox News. I’m not sure when we all lost the ability to see the good vs bad regardless of party.
where did you get that from??? The comparison? You are ignoring her stupidity and her bad move because it’s not as bad as trump? Is that right?
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
nice deflection, "lol"PJ_Soul said:
Oh wow, welcome back, lol. Nice entrance.HughFreakingDillon said:
it's passive aggressive bullshit and you know it.PJ_Soul said:
I remember you had a shit fit when I said something similar to you, FWIW.cincybearcat said:
Quit playing word games. You know what these means.Halifax2TheMax said:
Because being outraged or claiming that what Elizabeth Warren has done should disqualify her for running for president is complete and utter bullshit and I thought you might be smart enough to realize that but apparently not. Its not such an egregious transgression that rises to the level some would like it to rise to. "Warren is still done." Guess she should resign the senate too? Keep up the faux outrage over something so insignificant, its fitting.cincybearcat said:
I’m not comparing. You are. Warren is still wrong and she’s done.Halifax2TheMax said:
Because claiming Native American heritage doesn’t come anywhere close to the transgressions of Team Trump Treason. If Elizabeth Warren sexually assaulted men, bragged about it, scammed consumers out of millions of dollars, declared bankruptcy multiple times, cheated on her taxes, laundered money, conspired with a foreign power to throw her election to her, then we could have a rational conversation about equal condemnation. Both sides are not the same so stop positing that what Elizabeth Warren did is as bad as what Team Trump Treason did or will do.cincybearcat said:
I’m confused at why anything someone that opposing trump does is ok and anything someone that supports trump does is bad.Halifax2TheMax said:
Team Trump Treason can only win via the politics of personal destruction rather than policy. He’s going to avoid debating at all costs and if he does, he’ll stammer and come across as the disengaged idiot that he is. Nipple and Button, anyone?oftenreading said:
Her handling of it when the DNA results came out didn't help the optics of it, certainly. However, I don't think there was any was that she could have handled it that wouldn't lead to the same criticism, given the ones handing out the criticism.pjl44 said:
I agree with your overall point. If only she had addressed it honestly and contritely from the moment this issue was raised. Instead she dug in and handed it like a politician for years.oftenreading said:
To me, this just shows she’s believed in this narrative about her heritage for decades, because this is dated 1986. It wasn’t something put on for political gain. It turns out it was incorrect, but it seems to have been a genuine belief.pjl44 said:
In case any of the "she never said herself...." crowd missed WaPo's story yesterday.
More and more people are now finding out that their heritage isn’t what they believed and what they were taught, and there will be a lot more fallout from that.
Defending Warren on this is pretty weak. Heck it was the Washington Post, not Fox News. I’m not sure when we all lost the ability to see the good vs bad regardless of party.
where did you get that from??? The comparison? You are ignoring her stupidity and her bad move because it’s not as bad as trump? Is that right?By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
What are you picking on me for? Jesus. You came back just to pick a fight with me? I'm not deflecting anything. I don't even actually think Cincy's comment was passive aggressive. I don't think there was anything passive about it.HughFreakingDillon said:
nice deflection, "lol"PJ_Soul said:
Oh wow, welcome back, lol. Nice entrance.HughFreakingDillon said:
it's passive aggressive bullshit and you know it.PJ_Soul said:
I remember you had a shit fit when I said something similar to you, FWIW.cincybearcat said:
Quit playing word games. You know what these means.Halifax2TheMax said:
Because being outraged or claiming that what Elizabeth Warren has done should disqualify her for running for president is complete and utter bullshit and I thought you might be smart enough to realize that but apparently not. Its not such an egregious transgression that rises to the level some would like it to rise to. "Warren is still done." Guess she should resign the senate too? Keep up the faux outrage over something so insignificant, its fitting.cincybearcat said:
I’m not comparing. You are. Warren is still wrong and she’s done.Halifax2TheMax said:
Because claiming Native American heritage doesn’t come anywhere close to the transgressions of Team Trump Treason. If Elizabeth Warren sexually assaulted men, bragged about it, scammed consumers out of millions of dollars, declared bankruptcy multiple times, cheated on her taxes, laundered money, conspired with a foreign power to throw her election to her, then we could have a rational conversation about equal condemnation. Both sides are not the same so stop positing that what Elizabeth Warren did is as bad as what Team Trump Treason did or will do.cincybearcat said:
I’m confused at why anything someone that opposing trump does is ok and anything someone that supports trump does is bad.Halifax2TheMax said:
Team Trump Treason can only win via the politics of personal destruction rather than policy. He’s going to avoid debating at all costs and if he does, he’ll stammer and come across as the disengaged idiot that he is. Nipple and Button, anyone?oftenreading said:
Her handling of it when the DNA results came out didn't help the optics of it, certainly. However, I don't think there was any was that she could have handled it that wouldn't lead to the same criticism, given the ones handing out the criticism.pjl44 said:
I agree with your overall point. If only she had addressed it honestly and contritely from the moment this issue was raised. Instead she dug in and handed it like a politician for years.oftenreading said:
To me, this just shows she’s believed in this narrative about her heritage for decades, because this is dated 1986. It wasn’t something put on for political gain. It turns out it was incorrect, but it seems to have been a genuine belief.pjl44 said:
In case any of the "she never said herself...." crowd missed WaPo's story yesterday.
More and more people are now finding out that their heritage isn’t what they believed and what they were taught, and there will be a lot more fallout from that.
Defending Warren on this is pretty weak. Heck it was the Washington Post, not Fox News. I’m not sure when we all lost the ability to see the good vs bad regardless of party.
where did you get that from??? The comparison? You are ignoring her stupidity and her bad move because it’s not as bad as trump? Is that right?
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It's becoming stupid.cincybearcat said:Oh man this is becoming priceless....
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This is actually a personal argument unrelated to Trump or politics. We may as well be arguing about who called who a poo-poo head when someone accidentally broke a toy.Ledbetterman10 said:This whole thread is exactly what Trump wants: people talking about him non-stop, and fighting with each other over irrelevant bullshit. A lot of you guys are playing right into his hands.
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1) I never leftPJ_Soul said:
What are you picking on me for? Jesus. You came back just to pick a fight with me? I'm not deflecting anything. I don't even actually think Cincy's comment was passive aggressive. I don't think there was anything passive about it.HughFreakingDillon said:
nice deflection, "lol"PJ_Soul said:
Oh wow, welcome back, lol. Nice entrance.HughFreakingDillon said:
it's passive aggressive bullshit and you know it.PJ_Soul said:
I remember you had a shit fit when I said something similar to you, FWIW.cincybearcat said:
Quit playing word games. You know what these means.Halifax2TheMax said:
Because being outraged or claiming that what Elizabeth Warren has done should disqualify her for running for president is complete and utter bullshit and I thought you might be smart enough to realize that but apparently not. Its not such an egregious transgression that rises to the level some would like it to rise to. "Warren is still done." Guess she should resign the senate too? Keep up the faux outrage over something so insignificant, its fitting.cincybearcat said:
I’m not comparing. You are. Warren is still wrong and she’s done.Halifax2TheMax said:
Because claiming Native American heritage doesn’t come anywhere close to the transgressions of Team Trump Treason. If Elizabeth Warren sexually assaulted men, bragged about it, scammed consumers out of millions of dollars, declared bankruptcy multiple times, cheated on her taxes, laundered money, conspired with a foreign power to throw her election to her, then we could have a rational conversation about equal condemnation. Both sides are not the same so stop positing that what Elizabeth Warren did is as bad as what Team Trump Treason did or will do.cincybearcat said:
I’m confused at why anything someone that opposing trump does is ok and anything someone that supports trump does is bad.Halifax2TheMax said:
Team Trump Treason can only win via the politics of personal destruction rather than policy. He’s going to avoid debating at all costs and if he does, he’ll stammer and come across as the disengaged idiot that he is. Nipple and Button, anyone?oftenreading said:
Her handling of it when the DNA results came out didn't help the optics of it, certainly. However, I don't think there was any was that she could have handled it that wouldn't lead to the same criticism, given the ones handing out the criticism.pjl44 said:
I agree with your overall point. If only she had addressed it honestly and contritely from the moment this issue was raised. Instead she dug in and handed it like a politician for years.oftenreading said:
To me, this just shows she’s believed in this narrative about her heritage for decades, because this is dated 1986. It wasn’t something put on for political gain. It turns out it was incorrect, but it seems to have been a genuine belief.pjl44 said:
In case any of the "she never said herself...." crowd missed WaPo's story yesterday.
More and more people are now finding out that their heritage isn’t what they believed and what they were taught, and there will be a lot more fallout from that.
Defending Warren on this is pretty weak. Heck it was the Washington Post, not Fox News. I’m not sure when we all lost the ability to see the good vs bad regardless of party.
where did you get that from??? The comparison? You are ignoring her stupidity and her bad move because it’s not as bad as trump? Is that right?
2) I'm picking on you/picking a fight with you?
3) I, uh, wasn't calling HIS comment passive aggressive.
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No it already was that. Now it's priceless.PJ_Soul said:
It's becoming stupid.cincybearcat said:Oh man this is becoming priceless....hippiemom = goodness0 -
please enlighten me on how that changes the meaning. HAHAHalifax2TheMax said:
To realize something. You forgot that part.HughFreakingDillon said:
"I thought you were smart enough....but I guess i was wrong".Halifax2TheMax said:
Please point me to where I called you “stupid?” Making shit up again. See? It works both ways.cincybearcat said:https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/06/politics/elizabeth-warren-native-american/index.html
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Ok, unless someone else wants to call me stupid or say I said things I didn't say I'm done with this.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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