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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    I don't understand.  Flint Michigan did fine with no bureaucrats interfering.  It's a model of laissez-faire economics. 
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    progress!

    Pelosi Says She Will Skip Trump and Negotiate Directly with Putin

    Photograph by J. Scott Applewhite / AP / Shutterstock

    WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—In a bold gambit to end the government shutdown, the House Speaker, Nancy Pelosi, said on Saturday that she would bypass Donald J. Trump and negotiate directly with the Russian President, Vladimir Putin.

    “I owe it to the American people to bring this shutdown to the swiftest possible conclusion, and so I’m avoiding the middleman,” she said.

    Pelosi, who is scheduled to board a plane to Moscow Saturday night, said that she had not informed Trump of her plans to deal directly with Putin. “Whatever,” she said.

    In an official statement, Putin said that he welcomed Pelosi’s overture and shared her desire to end the shutdown. “At some point, I’d like to visit Yellowstone,” he said.

    Andy Borowitz is the New York Times best-selling author of “The 50 Funniest American Writers,” and a comedian who has written for The New Yorker since 1998. He writes the Borowitz Report, a satirical column on the news, for newyorker.com.

  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    vaggar99 said:
    progress!

    Pelosi Says She Will Skip Trump and Negotiate Directly with Putin

    Photograph by J. Scott Applewhite / AP / Shutterstock

    WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—In a bold gambit to end the government shutdown, the House Speaker, Nancy Pelosi, said on Saturday that she would bypass Donald J. Trump and negotiate directly with the Russian President, Vladimir Putin.

    “I owe it to the American people to bring this shutdown to the swiftest possible conclusion, and so I’m avoiding the middleman,” she said.

    Pelosi, who is scheduled to board a plane to Moscow Saturday night, said that she had not informed Trump of her plans to deal directly with Putin. “Whatever,” she said.

    In an official statement, Putin said that he welcomed Pelosi’s overture and shared her desire to end the shutdown. “At some point, I’d like to visit Yellowstone,” he said.

    Andy Borowitz is the New York Times best-selling author of “The 50 Funniest American Writers,” and a comedian who has written for The New Yorker since 1998. He writes the Borowitz Report, a satirical column on the news, for newyorker.com.

    =)
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    Tiki said:
    I feel bad for all those people that worked so hard for that.   Sandy Hook came so close to some kind of change there too.  I don't think anything will get done there with these Republicans who are only focused on the agenda they've been waiting for those eight years while Obama was in office.  Hopefully with the Democrats taking the House, that will change.   There are going to be a lot of pissed off Republican baby boomers not liking this blue wave.  Prepare for the backlash, y'all.  Its like a civil war.
    Yep - no longer a civil war but going to be a culture/class war.

    And like everything in this world - they're fucked up by Boomers. They need to hurry up and die.
    Twisted...


    We're all gonna die that's for certain. Just hopefully some quicker than others.
    What a profound statement.  Wishing a certain generation death is just silly. But it shouldn't surprise me.
    Ha! Just the other day you were threatening to kill a cop because he ran over a deer.
    Are they endangered?
    I never threatened anyone, the fact that cop intentionally ran over an injured fawn purposelly and continued to do so even after the fawn was crying.  I said the cop deserves the DP.  
    Do not wish double penetration on anyone.  It's cruel and unusual punishment .
    I know a few people that would disagree with that... i'm just sayin lol
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478

    Washington Post: Trump concealed details from meetings with Putin

    There are no detailed records of five personal meetings President Donald Trump has had with Russian President Vladimir Putin, The Washington Post reported Saturday, citing US officials.

    The reason being, Trump has gone to what the Post described as "extraordinary lengths" to keep the specifics of his conversations with his Russian counterpart under wraps.

    Current and former US officials told the paper that Trump's efforts include confiscating the notes from his interpreter and not allowing them to discuss the details of the meetings with other officials in his administration.

    The Post notes that this behavior by Trump is not usual per past presidential standards.


    https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/12/politics/trump-putin-meetings-no-records/index.html
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,587
    dignin said:

    Washington Post: Trump concealed details from meetings with Putin

    There are no detailed records of five personal meetings President Donald Trump has had with Russian President Vladimir Putin, The Washington Post reported Saturday, citing US officials.

    The reason being, Trump has gone to what the Post described as "extraordinary lengths" to keep the specifics of his conversations with his Russian counterpart under wraps.

    Current and former US officials told the paper that Trump's efforts include confiscating the notes from his interpreter and not allowing them to discuss the details of the meetings with other officials in his administration.

    The Post notes that this behavior by Trump is not usual per past presidential standards.


    https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/12/politics/trump-putin-meetings-no-records/index.html
    Can the interpreter be subpoenaed or the notes ?
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927


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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    All of this stuff is so bizarre.  I assume the FBI must not have found any direct evidence or we surely would have heard of it.  My guess is the collusion was more subtle and that Mueller will uncover it.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    Tiki said:
    I feel bad for all those people that worked so hard for that.   Sandy Hook came so close to some kind of change there too.  I don't think anything will get done there with these Republicans who are only focused on the agenda they've been waiting for those eight years while Obama was in office.  Hopefully with the Democrats taking the House, that will change.   There are going to be a lot of pissed off Republican baby boomers not liking this blue wave.  Prepare for the backlash, y'all.  Its like a civil war.
    Yep - no longer a civil war but going to be a culture/class war.

    And like everything in this world - they're fucked up by Boomers. They need to hurry up and die.
    Twisted...


    We're all gonna die that's for certain. Just hopefully some quicker than others.
    What a profound statement.  Wishing a certain generation death is just silly. But it shouldn't surprise me.
    Ha! Just the other day you were threatening to kill a cop because he ran over a deer.
    Are they endangered?
    I never threatened anyone, the fact that cop intentionally ran over an injured fawn purposelly and continued to do so even after the fawn was crying.  I said the cop deserves the DP.  
    Do not wish double penetration on anyone.  It's cruel and unusual punishment .
    I know a few people that would disagree with that... i'm just sayin lol
    You know some people that like to party.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    All of this stuff is so bizarre.  I assume the FBI must not have found any direct evidence or we surely would have heard of it.  My guess is the collusion was more subtle and that Mueller will uncover it.
    No, I don't think that was the case.  The FBI opened the investigation because of the Comey firing and then turned it over to Mueller.  They never "finished" the investigation.  That's my understanding of the order of events. 
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,832
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    Tiki said:
    I feel bad for all those people that worked so hard for that.   Sandy Hook came so close to some kind of change there too.  I don't think anything will get done there with these Republicans who are only focused on the agenda they've been waiting for those eight years while Obama was in office.  Hopefully with the Democrats taking the House, that will change.   There are going to be a lot of pissed off Republican baby boomers not liking this blue wave.  Prepare for the backlash, y'all.  Its like a civil war.
    Yep - no longer a civil war but going to be a culture/class war.

    And like everything in this world - they're fucked up by Boomers. They need to hurry up and die.
    Twisted...


    We're all gonna die that's for certain. Just hopefully some quicker than others.
    What a profound statement.  Wishing a certain generation death is just silly. But it shouldn't surprise me.
    Ha! Just the other day you were threatening to kill a cop because he ran over a deer.
    Are they endangered?
    I never threatened anyone, the fact that cop intentionally ran over an injured fawn purposelly and continued to do so even after the fawn was crying.  I said the cop deserves the DP.  
    Do not wish double penetration on anyone.  It's cruel and unusual punishment .
    I know a few people that would disagree with that... i'm just sayin lol
    You know some people that like to party.

    I think he’s just talking about himself.
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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    mrussel1 said:
    All of this stuff is so bizarre.  I assume the FBI must not have found any direct evidence or we surely would have heard of it.  My guess is the collusion was more subtle and that Mueller will uncover it.
    No, I don't think that was the case.  The FBI opened the investigation because of the Comey firing and then turned it over to Mueller.  They never "finished" the investigation.  That's my understanding of the order of events. 
    That is what I just read about too.  Everything was just handed over to Mueller to continue with it.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    Smellyman said:
    mrussel1 said:
    All of this stuff is so bizarre.  I assume the FBI must not have found any direct evidence or we surely would have heard of it.  My guess is the collusion was more subtle and that Mueller will uncover it.
    No, I don't think that was the case.  The FBI opened the investigation because of the Comey firing and then turned it over to Mueller.  They never "finished" the investigation.  That's my understanding of the order of events. 
    That is what I just read about too.  Everything was just handed over to Mueller to continue with it.
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  • I kinda forgot about that 'private meeting' with Putin.

    Again... another big ticket item lost in the madness. That event by itself would have been one to sink any other president's popularity. Not Donald though: the bar is so low for him he can emerge from private meetings with his country's biggest adversary- one who is highly suspected of interfering in the election that got Donald elected- without repercussion from his loyalists.
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    Tiki said:
    I feel bad for all those people that worked so hard for that.   Sandy Hook came so close to some kind of change there too.  I don't think anything will get done there with these Republicans who are only focused on the agenda they've been waiting for those eight years while Obama was in office.  Hopefully with the Democrats taking the House, that will change.   There are going to be a lot of pissed off Republican baby boomers not liking this blue wave.  Prepare for the backlash, y'all.  Its like a civil war.
    Yep - no longer a civil war but going to be a culture/class war.

    And like everything in this world - they're fucked up by Boomers. They need to hurry up and die.
    Twisted...


    We're all gonna die that's for certain. Just hopefully some quicker than others.
    What a profound statement.  Wishing a certain generation death is just silly. But it shouldn't surprise me.
    Ha! Just the other day you were threatening to kill a cop because he ran over a deer.
    Are they endangered?
    I never threatened anyone, the fact that cop intentionally ran over an injured fawn purposelly and continued to do so even after the fawn was crying.  I said the cop deserves the DP.  
    Do not wish double penetration on anyone.  It's cruel and unusual punishment .
    I know a few people that would disagree with that... i'm just sayin lol
    You know some people that like to party.

    I think he’s just talking about himself.
    Well played, well played...

    Fuckers lol
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    I kinda forgot about that 'private meeting' with Putin.
    That is what has interested me the most... 

    You know Putin recorded them... only adding to the compromising info 

    OR...MAYBE...in a far off thought... MAYBE, JUST MAYBE, Trump has been cooperating with American intelligence and is operating as a rope-a-dope to ensnare Vladdy... shit, i should work for the CIA lol
  • I just remembered that time when Putin made his entrance and Donald started wagging his tail while piddling on the floor a little because he was so excited.
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  • CM189191
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    dignin said:

    Washington Post: Trump concealed details from meetings with Putin

    There are no detailed records of five personal meetings President Donald Trump has had with Russian President Vladimir Putin, The Washington Post reported Saturday, citing US officials.

    The reason being, Trump has gone to what the Post described as "extraordinary lengths" to keep the specifics of his conversations with his Russian counterpart under wraps.

    Current and former US officials told the paper that Trump's efforts include confiscating the notes from his interpreter and not allowing them to discuss the details of the meetings with other officials in his administration.

    The Post notes that this behavior by Trump is not usual per past presidential standards.


    https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/12/politics/trump-putin-meetings-no-records/index.html
    Can the interpreter be subpoenaed or the notes ?
    Guessing Mueller had already talked to her.....
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    now if this shit is real....FUCK!!!!!!!!!

    Mueller Draft Report Says Trump 'Helped Putin Destabilize the United States', Watergate Journalist Says

    By Jason Lemon  On 1/13/19 at 2:45 PM 

    Legendary journalist Carl Bernstein has said that he’s been told that special counsel Robert Mueller’s report will show how President Donald Trump helped Russia “destabilize the United States.”

    Bernstein, who is renowned for his coverage of the Watergate scandal that led to the resignation of former President Richard Nixon, appeared on CNN’s Reliable Sources on Sunday to discuss two bombshell reports released this weekend, one from The New York Times and one from The Washington Post, which revealed new details about whether or not Trump and his aides have colluded with Russia.

    The Post reported that Trump has gone to “extraordinary lengths” to conceal direct conversations he has had with Russian President Vladimir Putin. The Times article revealed that the FBI opened a counterintelligence investigation into Trump after he fired former bureau director James Comey in 2017, suspecting the president could be working on behalf of Russia. Trump has angrily denied allegations that he worked with Russia and has regularly attacked the media for reporting on the investigation. But Bernstein slammed Trump’s dismissal of the probe.

    “This is about the most serious counterintelligence people we have in the U.S. government saying, ‘Oh, my God, the president’s words and actions lead us to conclude that somehow he has become a witting, unwitting, or half-witting pawn, certainly in some regards, to Vladimir Putin,'” Bernstein explained during his appearance on Reliable Sources .

    “From a point of view of strength… rather, he has done what appears to be Putin’s goals. He has helped Putin destabilize the United States and interfere in the election, no matter whether it was purposeful or not,” the journalist added. He then explained that he knew from his own high-level sources that Mueller’s report would discuss this assessment.

    “And that is part of what the draft of Mueller’s report, I’m told, is to be about,” he said. “We know there has been collusion by [former national security adviser Michael] Flynn. We know there has been collusion of some sort by [Trump’s former campaign chairman Paul] Manafort. The question is, yes, what did the president know and when did he know it?”

    GettyImages-1000211982President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin shake hands during a joint press conference after their summit on July 16, 2018 in Helsinki, Finland Chris McGrath/Getty Images 

    Trump has defended himself against such reports, arguing, inaccurately, that he has taken a hardline stance against Russia.

    “I have been FAR tougher on Russia than Obama, Bush or Clinton. Maybe tougher than any other President. At the same time, & as I have often said, getting along with Russia is a good thing, not a bad thing. I fully expect that someday we will have good relations with Russia again! [sic],” he wrote on Twitter on Saturday.

    However, the president’s 2016 campaign remains the subject of a special investigation led by Mueller. Several former high-ranking Trump aides have been indicted in the probe and last week, it was revealed that Manafort shared confidential polling data with an associate linked to Russian-intelligence. 

    Trump's administration recently moved to remove financial sanctions on an ally of Putin, and has recently pulled troops out of Syria -- a long-standing demand from the Russian President. 

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