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sickoPJ_Soul said:
I think every little bit counts, always.The Juggler said:
I guess. I just don't think the ratings issue is a big deal for this one. It will be huge either way because it's on all the channels. More important things to worry about though.PJ_Soul said:
Could be. And we'll all know what happens whether we watch it live or not.The Juggler said:
I keep saying this......but this is different than a dumb rally, though. No reason to watch those.Meltdown99 said:
Stick to your principles. Watch Netflix. I just can't stand the man...PJ_Soul said:
I actually NEVER watch Trump on TV. I specifically avoid his stupid "press conferences" and the state of the union, etc etc etc. It's not usually out of spite (tonight will be, but also because of my usual reason). It's out of the fact that I just can't fucking tolerate him. He is SO irritating and off-putting and ridiculous and disgusting and stupid, that I just can't take it. Even if I try to watch that shit, I have to turn it off within a couple of minutes. It is much more tolerable to just find out what idiotic shit he spewed later than to actually experience the madness. I just can't stand to have him invade my mind that directly.Meltdown99 said:I will not be watching it, it pisses me off that he is fucking up my primetime tv viewing. After the shows went into their Christmas break, I was looking for forward to my primetime tv shows returning...fuck this man. Besides, I have only watched 1 primetime presidential bullshit speech in the last 30 years, and that was W after 911.
I'll be watching Netflix. He will be saying nothing we haven't heard.
Could be a watershed moment for this country depending on how the networks treat it.....
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Kat said:It's quacking like collusion, aka conspiracy, out there. lol
Filing: Manafort lied about sharing poll data with Russian
https://apnews.com/608b9fcbca5941348e2ac8796e94c8cdThe allegation is the first time prosecutors have accused Trump’s chief campaign aide of sharing information related to the election with his Russian contacts.
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This story should preempt tRUmp's speech on every major network.CM189191 said:Kat said:It's quacking like collusion, aka conspiracy, out there. lolFiling: Manafort lied about sharing poll data with Russian
https://apnews.com/608b9fcbca5941348e2ac8796e94c8cdThe allegation is the first time prosecutors have accused Trump’s chief campaign aide of sharing information related to the election with his Russian contacts.
it won't, but it should.0 -
LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP!CM189191 said:Kat said:It's quacking like collusion, aka conspiracy, out there. lolFiling: Manafort lied about sharing poll data with Russian
https://apnews.com/608b9fcbca5941348e2ac8796e94c8cdThe allegation is the first time prosecutors have accused Trump’s chief campaign aide of sharing information related to the election with his Russian contacts.
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They also discussed Ukrainian policy. This is the very definition of collusion.0
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this is what tRUmp is trying to distract everyone from with his wall speech today
I hope he goes off the rails on live TV and Mulvaney has to step in and cut him off0 -
And would anyone like to guess what that internal polling data revealed? And would anyone else like to guess which states might have been involved? Anyone heard about Cambridge Analytica lately? Anyone want to argue the impact of social media campaigns? 66,000 votes in three key electoral states. NRA, RNC, individual repub members of Congress. 6 month Team Mueller grand jury extension. Bigger than Watergate.CM189191 said:Kat said:It's quacking like collusion, aka conspiracy, out there. lolFiling: Manafort lied about sharing poll data with Russian
https://apnews.com/608b9fcbca5941348e2ac8796e94c8cdThe allegation is the first time prosecutors have accused Trump’s chief campaign aide of sharing information related to the election with his Russian contacts.
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"News outlets are actually worried about giving Trump a prime time spot as they are afraid that he will manipulate the people or blur the truth." As told by NPR today.
I remember that when any president talked there was a complete rebuttal by another party after the president would speak so, how is this different unless that nothing but lies come flying out of Trumps mouth?
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That... would be something else.Halifax2TheMax said:
And would anyone like to guess what that internal polling data revealed? And would anyone else like to guess which states might have been involved? Anyone heard about Cambridge Analytica lately? Anyone want to argue the impact of social media campaigns? 66,000 votes in three key electoral states. NRA, RNC, individual repub members of Congress. 6 month Team Mueller grand jury extension. Bigger than Watergate.CM189191 said:Kat said:It's quacking like collusion, aka conspiracy, out there. lolFiling: Manafort lied about sharing poll data with Russian
https://apnews.com/608b9fcbca5941348e2ac8796e94c8cdThe allegation is the first time prosecutors have accused Trump’s chief campaign aide of sharing information related to the election with his Russian contacts.
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That's usually only for State of the Union addresses.tempo_n_groove said:"News outlets are actually worried about giving Trump a prime time spot as they are afraid that he will manipulate the people or blur the truth." As told by NPR today.
I remember that when any president talked there was a complete rebuttal by another party after the president would speak so, how is this different unless that nothing but lies come flying out of Trumps mouth?www.myspace.com0 -
Can’t wait. Will he flip?vaggar99 said:09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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no. pardonHalifax2TheMax said:
Can’t wait. Will he flip?vaggar99 said:0 -
Pelosi and Schumer will be giving a Democratic rebuttal (fact check) after Trump's address tonight. They asked the networks and it was deemed that the equal time 'clause' was warranted.The Juggler said:
That's usually only for State of the Union addresses.tempo_n_groove said:"News outlets are actually worried about giving Trump a prime time spot as they are afraid that he will manipulate the people or blur the truth." As told by NPR today.
I remember that when any president talked there was a complete rebuttal by another party after the president would speak so, how is this different unless that nothing but lies come flying out of Trumps mouth?0 -
I know. He was asking if it's normal to have a rebuttal. Usually rebuttals are for SOTU'snjnancy said:
Pelosi and Schumer will be giving a Democratic rebuttal (fact check) after Trump's address tonight. They asked the networks and it was deemed that the equal time 'clause' was warranted.The Juggler said:
That's usually only for State of the Union addresses.tempo_n_groove said:"News outlets are actually worried about giving Trump a prime time spot as they are afraid that he will manipulate the people or blur the truth." As told by NPR today.
I remember that when any president talked there was a complete rebuttal by another party after the president would speak so, how is this different unless that nothing but lies come flying out of Trumps mouth?www.myspace.com0 -
It would have been so great if Obama gave the rebuttal. I feel like he has to break the tradition and get involved.njnancy said:
Pelosi and Schumer will be giving a Democratic rebuttal (fact check) after Trump's address tonight. They asked the networks and it was deemed that the equal time 'clause' was warranted.The Juggler said:
That's usually only for State of the Union addresses.tempo_n_groove said:"News outlets are actually worried about giving Trump a prime time spot as they are afraid that he will manipulate the people or blur the truth." As told by NPR today.
I remember that when any president talked there was a complete rebuttal by another party after the president would speak so, how is this different unless that nothing but lies come flying out of Trumps mouth?0 -
Gambling site takes big odds on how many times Trump will lie in his national address
U.S. President Donald Trump speaks in the Rose Garden of the White House on January 4, 2019 in Washington, DC. (Alex Wong / Getty Images)High-rollers have an opportunity to put their money where the President’s mouth is Tuesday night.
BookMaker, an offshore gambling house that claims 30 years in the business, is laying odds on how many times President Trump will lie when he addresses the nation at 9 p.m.
Trump is expected to make his case about building a wall along the U.S. border with Mexico. The Federal Government has been under a partial shutdown since Dec. 22 while the President and congress have stood firm on opposite sides of the wall funding debate.
“We tend to post these odds for entertainment purposes, however, as a part of a larger trend in interest in political props that we have have been experiencing since the current administration has taken office, we are seeing unexpected volume on such a short term basis,” according to John Lester, who sets odds at the Costa Rica-based gambling site. “We have received over $100,000 in action on this wager in the first 12 hours alone.”
Online gamblers can place up to $500 per bet on how many “false statements” Trump will make by logging onto BookMaker.Eu, where the over-under is 3.5. That means bettors who believe the President to be a man of integrity can win money by wagering the Trump makes fewer than three and a half statements that are demonstrably untrue. Skeptics who want a piece of the action — which represents an overwhelming majority of BookMaker’s clients so far — can claim a cash prize by betting the President makes more than that number of false claims.
“The action tends to be predominantly one-sided with 90% of the action currently on ‘over 3.5’ false statements,” according to Lester. His company will use the Washington Post Fact Checker as the deciding vote on whether or not statements made by the President are true.
The Post uses a rating or one to four Pinocchio images to gauge the degree of fallacies spoken by politicians. Last month, the paper introduced the “Bottomless Pinocchio” rating to indicate bits of false information that have been purposefully repeated by politicians who have been given enough information to know better. That modification was inspired by the President.
Lester and his colleagues at BookMaker aren’t interested in gambling on Trump’s intentions.
“We actually chose the phrase ‘false statement’ instead of ‘lie’ to avoid having to prove that the President is intentionally misleading the public,” he said.
According to Lester, his company had gambled against Trump in the past and lost big.
“We experienced 7-figure losses when Trump shocked the world and upset Hillary Clinton,” he claimed of the 2016 election.
The President’s dubious relationship with facts isn’t the only thing BookMaker is taking action on. Those who bet that Trump will declare a state emergency on the national border before Jan. 22 will win $450 for every $1,000 they gamble. Lester is also taking bets on whether the Supreme Court’s 1973 ruling on Roe v. Wade will be overturned this year, which party will control the White House after the 2020 election and when the ongoing government shutdown will end.
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That seems like the right choice in this case. He’s addressing the nation on a political issue and making a case. Opponents should have the same opportunity.njnancy said:
Pelosi and Schumer will be giving a Democratic rebuttal (fact check) after Trump's address tonight. They asked the networks and it was deemed that the equal time 'clause' was warranted.The Juggler said:
That's usually only for State of the Union addresses.tempo_n_groove said:"News outlets are actually worried about giving Trump a prime time spot as they are afraid that he will manipulate the people or blur the truth." As told by NPR today.
I remember that when any president talked there was a complete rebuttal by another party after the president would speak so, how is this different unless that nothing but lies come flying out of Trumps mouth?
Though I’m not sure Nancy and chuck are the right choice.hippiemom = goodness0 -
And the circus continues lol0
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