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    Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    I must have missed something. Because if people really think blaming the Chinese government for their response and blaming the Chinese government for their lack of health standards And blaming the Chinese government for allowing and the Chinese people for having and using a assbackwards meat market is being racist then I’m not really sure what to think about the people here. 

      
    Thank! You!
    This troll just wants me to say something to get me banned.
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,802
    I must have missed something. Because if people really think blaming the Chinese government for their response and blaming the Chinese government for their lack of health standards And blaming the Chinese government for allowing and the Chinese people for having and using a assbackwards meat market is being racist then I’m not really sure what to think about the people here. 

      
    ...what's the difference between accountability and hatred?  asking for a friend....
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,158
    CM189191 said:
    I must have missed something. Because if people really think blaming the Chinese government for their response and blaming the Chinese government for their lack of health standards And blaming the Chinese government for allowing and the Chinese people for having and using a assbackwards meat market is being racist then I’m not really sure what to think about the people here. 

      
    ...what's the difference between accountability and hatred?  asking for a friend....
    You appear to have the internet. 
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    Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    And I said accountable not hatred. Learn how to read.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,158
    After the last 3 years on this forum it’s mind boggling that now it’s not ok to call out government and leadership failures. 
    hippiemom = goodness
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    Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Ignore that troll.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
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    nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 7,932
    After the last 3 years on this forum it’s mind boggling that now it’s not ok to call out government and leadership failures. 
    It’s obvious why. What bothers me the most is the outright condescending “I’m better than” you attitude. 
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,275
    After the last 3 years on this forum it’s mind boggling that now it’s not ok to call out government and leadership failures. 
    we call out trump for leadership failures every....single.....day....
    There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,320
    There is still an ignore function people :) Use it or lose it! I love mine. Some people are just here to aggravate.
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,158
    After the last 3 years on this forum it’s mind boggling that now it’s not ok to call out government and leadership failures. 
    we call out trump for leadership failures every....single.....day....
    That ... was ... my ... point.
    hippiemom = goodness
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,457
    After the last 3 years on this forum it’s mind boggling that now it’s not ok to call out government and leadership failures. 
    we call out trump for leadership failures every....single.....day....
    That ... was ... my ... point.
    Is that a bad thing? It’s not like people are lying about him..
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,457
    https://apple.news/AEegFpQZ1Q-Sto6IVCVAKQw
    Here you go this is the man we are all supposed to trust in this crisis, we are doomed! 
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,158
    After the last 3 years on this forum it’s mind boggling that now it’s not ok to call out government and leadership failures. 
    we call out trump for leadership failures every....single.....day....
    That ... was ... my ... point.
    Is that a bad thing? It’s not like people are lying about him..
    No. But when people do the same about the Chinese government...I don't think they should be vilified.  Since, of course, it did start there.
    hippiemom = goodness
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,802
    After the last 3 years on this forum it’s mind boggling that now it’s not ok to call out government and leadership failures. 
    we call out trump for leadership failures every....single.....day....
    That ... was ... my ... point.
    Is that a bad thing? It’s not like people are lying about him..
    No. But when people do the same about the Chinese government...I don't think they should be vilified.  Since, of course, it did start there.
    Words matter.  There's a vast difference between
    'I hate China' (which appears to have been deleted by the mods)
    'I'm pissed at China'
    'Is anyone else angry at China?'

    and:
    The Chinese gov't needs to be held accountable to for xyz
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,320
    edited March 2020
    After the last 3 years on this forum it’s mind boggling that now it’s not ok to call out government and leadership failures. 
    we call out trump for leadership failures every....single.....day....
    That ... was ... my ... point.
    Is that a bad thing? It’s not like people are lying about him..
    No. But when people do the same about the Chinese government...I don't think they should be vilified.  Since, of course, it did start there.
    I think it was already said earlier, but if this is what it will take for people to get pissed at China, then great! I am all for it. I try to avoid buying things "made in China" as much as possible, but it's supremely disappointing to start checking that every time you buy and sometimes it's impossible to avoid.

    I think some of the concern being pointed out by others is that the race baiting xenophobe in the White House is using this as an opportunity to shift people's attention instead of looking at the tag on the propoganda he hawk's to them at his fucked up rallies and seeing who he is really in bed with. People need to be mad at our government and at the fact that the Chinese government has been able to pull this bullshit with little to no consequences for decades. Leave the citizens out of the equation, it's their leaders. Unfortunately, we (I say that figuratively because this asshole is not someone I voted for) shot ourselves in the foot by electing this moron.
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    It's a hopeless situation...
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,802
    Isolationism and protectionism are failed policy.

    The economy is globalized, and there's no undoing that. 
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,027
    edited March 2020
    xenophobia is wrong.  doesn't matter if YOU think it's "justified"
    defending it (or it's "justification") makes you seem shallow.

    https://www.amazon.com/RTWAY-President-Bullshit-Printed-Grommets/dp/B07FYRDK4N
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,027
    He misses those hate rallies bad. 
    Now we're stuck with this new inside copter talk.
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,275
    times like this i wish Byrnzie was still around. as a brit living in china it would be cool to get his perspective.
    There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,158
    CM189191 said:
    After the last 3 years on this forum it’s mind boggling that now it’s not ok to call out government and leadership failures. 
    we call out trump for leadership failures every....single.....day....
    That ... was ... my ... point.
    Is that a bad thing? It’s not like people are lying about him..
    No. But when people do the same about the Chinese government...I don't think they should be vilified.  Since, of course, it did start there.
    Words matter.  There's a vast difference between
    'I hate China' (which appears to have been deleted by the mods)
    'I'm pissed at China'
    'Is anyone else angry at China?'

    and:
    The Chinese gov't needs to be held accountable to for xyz
    And sometimes, while you may say it one way, it's pretty easy to see what the reality is.  I've said "F China" and of course I meant the government and those awful BC meat markets.
    hippiemom = goodness
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    myoung321myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    CM189191 said:
    Isolationism and protectionism are failed policy.

    The economy is globalized, and there's no undoing that. 

      I agree... Multi-National Global Corporations don't care about borders or where they need to go to sell, exploit, or destroy the enviornment  for resources to keep the cycle of greed and profit going.
    "The heart and mind are the true lens of the camera." - Yusuf Karsh
     


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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,802
    CM189191 said:
    After the last 3 years on this forum it’s mind boggling that now it’s not ok to call out government and leadership failures. 
    we call out trump for leadership failures every....single.....day....
    That ... was ... my ... point.
    Is that a bad thing? It’s not like people are lying about him..
    No. But when people do the same about the Chinese government...I don't think they should be vilified.  Since, of course, it did start there.
    Words matter.  There's a vast difference between
    'I hate China' (which appears to have been deleted by the mods)
    'I'm pissed at China'
    'Is anyone else angry at China?'

    and:
    The Chinese gov't needs to be held accountable to for xyz
    And sometimes, while you may say it one way, it's pretty easy to see what the reality is.  I've said "F China" and of course I meant the government and those awful BC meat markets.
    ...butbutbut of course what I really meant to say was......

    this is why
    words
    matter
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    FiveBelowFiveBelow Lubbock, TX Posts: 1,218
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    After the last 3 years on this forum it’s mind boggling that now it’s not ok to call out government and leadership failures. 
    we call out trump for leadership failures every....single.....day....
    That ... was ... my ... point.
    Is that a bad thing? It’s not like people are lying about him..
    No. But when people do the same about the Chinese government...I don't think they should be vilified.  Since, of course, it did start there.
    Words matter.  There's a vast difference between
    'I hate China' (which appears to have been deleted by the mods)
    'I'm pissed at China'
    'Is anyone else angry at China?'

    and:
    The Chinese gov't needs to be held accountable to for xyz
    And sometimes, while you may say it one way, it's pretty easy to see what the reality is.  I've said "F China" and of course I meant the government and those awful BC meat markets.
    ...butbutbut of course what I really meant to say was......

    this is why
    words
    matter
    Logical deciphering of words would be a better start. The person reading the statement is the only one in control of how they interpret it, maybe you should choose to be realistic instead of jumping to extremes. butbutbut that is what my super cool political fraternity tells me to do...



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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,802
    JW269453 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    After the last 3 years on this forum it’s mind boggling that now it’s not ok to call out government and leadership failures. 
    we call out trump for leadership failures every....single.....day....
    That ... was ... my ... point.
    Is that a bad thing? It’s not like people are lying about him..
    No. But when people do the same about the Chinese government...I don't think they should be vilified.  Since, of course, it did start there.
    Words matter.  There's a vast difference between
    'I hate China' (which appears to have been deleted by the mods)
    'I'm pissed at China'
    'Is anyone else angry at China?'

    and:
    The Chinese gov't needs to be held accountable to for xyz
    And sometimes, while you may say it one way, it's pretty easy to see what the reality is.  I've said "F China" and of course I meant the government and those awful BC meat markets.
    ...butbutbut of course what I really meant to say was......

    this is why
    words
    matter
    Logical deciphering of words would be a better start. The person reading the statement is the only one in control of how they interpret it, maybe you should choose to be realistic instead of jumping to extremes. butbutbut that is what my super cool political fraternity tells me to do...




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    Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    CM189191 said:
    After the last 3 years on this forum it’s mind boggling that now it’s not ok to call out government and leadership failures. 
    we call out trump for leadership failures every....single.....day....
    That ... was ... my ... point.
    Is that a bad thing? It’s not like people are lying about him..
    No. But when people do the same about the Chinese government...I don't think they should be vilified.  Since, of course, it did start there.
    Words matter.  There's a vast difference between
    'I hate China' (which appears to have been deleted by the mods)
    'I'm pissed at China'
    'Is anyone else angry at China?'

    and:
    The Chinese gov't needs to be held accountable to for xyz
    I never said I hate China you lying so and so.
    I said F*** China.
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,457
    https://apple.news/AdKl6kv2dTkuFxCAMwa1W4A
    economy economy,the real experts say we should be on total lockdown for minimum 5 weeks I hope this country doesn’t follow this idiots advice! I sure as fuck won’t I’ll stay away from any gatherings for a full yr ..
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,158
    Coronavirus is affecting people’s ability to reason apparently.
    hippiemom = goodness
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,811
    Coronavirus is affecting people’s ability to reason apparently.
    For fucking sure. 
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