Donald Trump

Ledbetterman10 · December 2018

Gern Blansten said:

That would be a major scandal for any other politician....will likely go unnoticed in the age of tRump

The rules don't apply to Trump. Going back to him not releasing his tax returns during the campaign. Can you imagine if Mitt Romney did that?

Gern Blansten · December 2018

Ledbetterman10 said:

Gern Blansten said:

That would be a major scandal for any other politician....will likely go unnoticed in the age of tRump

The rules don't apply to Trump. Going back to him not releasing his tax returns during the campaign. Can you imagine if Mitt Romney did that?

Or any democrat

Ledbetterman10 · December 2018

Gern Blansten said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Gern Blansten said:

That would be a major scandal for any other politician....will likely go unnoticed in the age of tRump

The rules don't apply to Trump. Going back to him not releasing his tax returns during the campaign. Can you imagine if Mitt Romney did that?

Or any democrat

Or anybody for that matter. Democrat or Republican. I just picked Romney because he was the previous general election loser.

Gern Blansten · December 2018

The hypocrisy is amazing. If Clinton was President and she owned hotels that the Saudi's were buying 500 nights for and/or if she owned a resort where the USA was paying HER COMPANY for use of golf carts, hotel rooms, food, etc. they would have already lit the white house on fire.

Ledbetterman10 · December 2018

Gern Blansten said:

The hypocrisy is amazing. If Clinton was President and she owned hotels that the Saudi's were buying 500 nights for and/or if she owned a resort where the USA was paying HER COMPANY for use of golf carts, hotel rooms, food, etc. they would have already lit the white house on fire.

Another one of the biggest hypocrisies concerning Trump is how conservatives love (or claim to love) patriotism yet they give Trump a pass when he's too afraid to accuse the Saudi Prince of murder...when all of his intelligence agencies say it happened. Imagine their reaction if Obama sided with a foreign murderer over an American journalist.

HughFreakingDillon · December 2018

Gern Blansten said:

The hypocrisy is amazing. If Clinton was President and she owned hotels that the Saudi's were buying 500 nights for and/or if she owned a resort where the USA was paying HER COMPANY for use of golf carts, hotel rooms, food, etc. they would have already lit the white house on fire.

I agree to an extent. but the amount of democrats that are usually all about humanitarian issues didn't seem to give two shits about Obama's drone strike program.

Gern Blansten · December 2018

HughFreakingDillon said:

Gern Blansten said:

The hypocrisy is amazing. If Clinton was President and she owned hotels that the Saudi's were buying 500 nights for and/or if she owned a resort where the USA was paying HER COMPANY for use of golf carts, hotel rooms, food, etc. they would have already lit the white house on fire.

I agree to an extent. but the amount of democrats that are usually all about humanitarian issues didn't seem to give two shits about Obama's drone strike program.

I think an issue like that relates to trust. No matter how "humanitarian" a person might be they have to agree that sometimes force is necessary. I trust someone like Obama to make those decisions over a complete dipshit like tRump.

Halifax2TheMax · December 2018

Ledbetterman10 said:

Gern Blansten said:

The hypocrisy is amazing. If Clinton was President and she owned hotels that the Saudi's were buying 500 nights for and/or if she owned a resort where the USA was paying HER COMPANY for use of golf carts, hotel rooms, food, etc. they would have already lit the white house on fire.

Another one of the biggest hypocrisies concerning Trump is how conservatives love (or claim to love) patriotism yet they give Trump a pass when he's too afraid to accuse the Saudi Prince of murder...when all of his intelligence agencies say it happened. Imagine their reaction if Obama sided with a foreign murderer over an American journalist.

A foreign Muslim murderer, no less.

mrussel1 · December 2018

At this point, I don't think the GOP senators are giving him a pass on SA. We'll see if they pass a resolution, with sanctions and veto proof majorities that they can send to the Democratic House in January. If they do, kudos and credit.

Ledbetterman10 · December 2018

mrussel1 said:

At this point, I don't think the GOP senators are giving him a pass on SA. We'll see if they pass a resolution, with sanctions and veto proof majorities that they can send to the Democratic House in January. If they do, kudos and credit.

In this particular circumstance, I agree. I saw Lindsey Graham on TV and he was very much against Trump on this issue. But Trump's fans could probably give less than a fuck about it.

mrussel1 · December 2018

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

At this point, I don't think the GOP senators are giving him a pass on SA. We'll see if they pass a resolution, with sanctions and veto proof majorities that they can send to the Democratic House in January. If they do, kudos and credit.

In this particular circumstance, I agree. I saw Lindsey Graham on TV and he was very much against Trump on this issue. But Trump's fans could probably give less than a fuck about it.

On the more high class sites frequented by Trump supporters, they refer to the issue as "Muslim on Muslim crime". They dont' give a fuck.

cincybearcat · December 2018

Ledbetterman10 said:

Gern Blansten said:

The hypocrisy is amazing. If Clinton was President and she owned hotels that the Saudi's were buying 500 nights for and/or if she owned a resort where the USA was paying HER COMPANY for use of golf carts, hotel rooms, food, etc. they would have already lit the white house on fire.

Another one of the biggest hypocrisies concerning Trump is how conservatives love (or claim to love) patriotism yet they give Trump a pass when he's too afraid to accuse the Saudi Prince of murder...when all of his intelligence agencies say it happened. Imagine their reaction if Obama sided with a foreign murderer over an American journalist.

No kidding. It’s stupid.

Bentleyspop · December 2018

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

At this point, I don't think the GOP senators are giving him a pass on SA. We'll see if they pass a resolution, with sanctions and veto proof majorities that they can send to the Democratic House in January. If they do, kudos and credit.

In this particular circumstance, I agree. I saw Lindsey Graham on TV and he was very much against Trump on this issue. But Trump's fans could probably give less than a fuck about it.

The supporters of the liar-in-chief are so ignorant they would believe him if he said the sun was now going to rise in the west and set in the east.

Bentleyspop · December 2018

Drain the swamp?
More like making himself richer.
And his ignorant supporters don't give a shit....

How Donald Trump Shifted $1.1M Of Campaign-Donor Money Into His Business.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2018/12/06/how-donald-trump-shifted-11m-of-campaign-donor-money-into-his-business/

On the day Donald Trump became president of the United States, while inauguration festivities were still in full swing, he officially launched his 2020 reelection campaign. Donations poured in from more than 50,000 people across the country. But according to the latest federal filings, Trump still has not donated a penny of his own, while his businesses continued to charge the campaign for hotels, food, rent and legal consulting. That means the richest president in American history has turned $1.1 million from donors across the country into revenue for himself.

Ledbetterman10 · December 2018

Just bringing a conversation between Halifax and me over from the NFL thread on the AET board so we don't bother people over there with Trump shit.

Here's Halifax responding to me noting that he's a Patriots fan, and Trump-hater, yet Kraft, Belichick and Brady are all friends with Trump:

"I think you use the term “friends” a wee bit loosely. That said, one of things that makes us great is that we can have different political views and still respect individual accomplishments. I have no idea whether they voted for Team Trump Treason or gave money to his campaign. If they did or do, yea that sucks and I hope they’ve realized the error of their ways. Come game time, all I care about for the next three hours is how they play the game and whether they played well or won or lost. Gee, if all that we know now were known pre-election, would Team Trump Treason be in the White House and would you even be bringing it up?"

Well for starters, I'm not sure what you mean when you say "If all that we know now were known pre-election...." Has anything surprised you about Trump's presidency? Isn't this EXACTLY what you expected when he was campaigning? It's exactly what I expected.

But the reason I even made this post is that you often suggest that people that like, voted for, or are friends of Trump, are racist morons. You do. You're going to deny it. But you constantly do. You and I have had a few back and forths where I tried to stick up for Middle-America Trump-Voters by suggesting they were either duped by Trump, or just desperate for something new. You always dismissed that and said nope, they're racists (or...indirect racists, by supporting Trump and turning a blind eye). But here, when talking about guys you admire (hell, I'm fucking Dolphins fan and I admire those three assholes too), you say it's "great that we can have different political views and still respect individual accomplishments." I completely agree with that statement. But I think it contradicts many of your previous posts.

HughFreakingDillon · December 2018

Ledbetterman10 said:

Just bringing a conversation between Halifax and me over from the NFL thread on the AET board so we don't bother people over there with Trump shit.

Here's Halifax responding to me noting that he's a Patriots fan, and Trump-hater, yet Kraft, Belichick and Brady are all friends with Trump:

"I think you use the term “friends” a wee bit loosely. That said, one of things that makes us great is that we can have different political views and still respect individual accomplishments. I have no idea whether they voted for Team Trump Treason or gave money to his campaign. If they did or do, yea that sucks and I hope they’ve realized the error of their ways. Come game time, all I care about for the next three hours is how they play the game and whether they played well or won or lost. Gee, if all that we know now were known pre-election, would Team Trump Treason be in the White House and would you even be bringing it up?"

Well for starters, I'm not sure what you mean when you say "If all that we know now were known pre-election...." Has anything surprised you about Trump's presidency? Isn't this EXACTLY what you expected when he was campaigning? It's exactly what I expected.

But the reason I even made this post is that you often suggest that people that like, voted for, or are friends of Trump, are racist morons. You do. You're going to deny it. But you constantly do. You and I have had a few back and forths where I tried to stick up for Middle-America Trump-Voters by suggesting they were either duped by Trump, or just desperate for something new. You always dismissed that and said nope, they're racists (or...indirect racists, by supporting Trump and turning a blind eye). But here, when talking about guys you admire (hell, I'm fucking Dolphins fan and I admire those three assholes too), you say it's "great that we can have different political views and still respect individual accomplishments." I completely agree with that statement. But I think it contradicts many of your previous posts.

as Jenna Jameson so readily admits, "when you're rich, you vote republican"

mrussel1 · December 2018

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Just bringing a conversation between Halifax and me over from the NFL thread on the AET board so we don't bother people over there with Trump shit.

Here's Halifax responding to me noting that he's a Patriots fan, and Trump-hater, yet Kraft, Belichick and Brady are all friends with Trump:

"I think you use the term “friends” a wee bit loosely. That said, one of things that makes us great is that we can have different political views and still respect individual accomplishments. I have no idea whether they voted for Team Trump Treason or gave money to his campaign. If they did or do, yea that sucks and I hope they’ve realized the error of their ways. Come game time, all I care about for the next three hours is how they play the game and whether they played well or won or lost. Gee, if all that we know now were known pre-election, would Team Trump Treason be in the White House and would you even be bringing it up?"

Well for starters, I'm not sure what you mean when you say "If all that we know now were known pre-election...." Has anything surprised you about Trump's presidency? Isn't this EXACTLY what you expected when he was campaigning? It's exactly what I expected.

But the reason I even made this post is that you often suggest that people that like, voted for, or are friends of Trump, are racist morons. You do. You're going to deny it. But you constantly do. You and I have had a few back and forths where I tried to stick up for Middle-America Trump-Voters by suggesting they were either duped by Trump, or just desperate for something new. You always dismissed that and said nope, they're racists (or...indirect racists, by supporting Trump and turning a blind eye). But here, when talking about guys you admire (hell, I'm fucking Dolphins fan and I admire those three assholes too), you say it's "great that we can have different political views and still respect individual accomplishments." I completely agree with that statement. But I think it contradicts many of your previous posts.

as Jenna Jameson so readily admits, "when you're rich, you vote republican"

That ain't true. Not that Jenna isn't a bastion of knowledge, but it simply isn't a truism.

Halifax2TheMax · December 2018

Ledbetterman10 said:

Just bringing a conversation between Halifax and me over from the NFL thread on the AET board so we don't bother people over there with Trump shit.

Here's Halifax responding to me noting that he's a Patriots fan, and Trump-hater, yet Kraft, Belichick and Brady are all friends with Trump:

"I think you use the term “friends” a wee bit loosely. That said, one of things that makes us great is that we can have different political views and still respect individual accomplishments. I have no idea whether they voted for Team Trump Treason or gave money to his campaign. If they did or do, yea that sucks and I hope they’ve realized the error of their ways. Come game time, all I care about for the next three hours is how they play the game and whether they played well or won or lost. Gee, if all that we know now were known pre-election, would Team Trump Treason be in the White House and would you even be bringing it up?"

Well for starters, I'm not sure what you mean when you say "If all that we know now were known pre-election...." Has anything surprised you about Trump's presidency? Isn't this EXACTLY what you expected when he was campaigning? It's exactly what I expected.

But the reason I even made this post is that you often suggest that people that like, voted for, or are friends of Trump, are racist morons. You do. You're going to deny it. But you constantly do. You and I have had a few back and forths where I tried to stick up for Middle-America Trump-Voters by suggesting they were either duped by Trump, or just desperate for something new. You always dismissed that and said nope, they're racists (or...indirect racists, by supporting Trump and turning a blind eye). But here, when talking about guys you admire (hell, I'm fucking Dolphins fan and I admire those three assholes too), you say it's "great that we can have different political views and still respect individual accomplishments." I completely agree with that statement. But I think it contradicts many of your previous posts.

I have repeatedly stated what my thoughts are on Team Trump Treason voters and more importantly, his base of 35% to 40% that continue to support him. What hasn’t been determined or agreed upon, despite asking of those who continue to support Team Trump Treason, is what they should be referred to now, knowing what we do?And no, we didn’t have the full breadth of information now that we should have had then, pre-election. Not only that, did anyone ever think it would get this bad and look like it’s going to be so much worse when Team Mueller is finished?

While I’m certainly not “average” when it comes to news and information consumption, I am “normal.” Neither of which makes me better but it does make me engaged. More as it relates to the Patriots organization as I have way more to say but I’m on my phone.

HughFreakingDillon · December 2018

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Just bringing a conversation between Halifax and me over from the NFL thread on the AET board so we don't bother people over there with Trump shit.

Here's Halifax responding to me noting that he's a Patriots fan, and Trump-hater, yet Kraft, Belichick and Brady are all friends with Trump:

"I think you use the term “friends” a wee bit loosely. That said, one of things that makes us great is that we can have different political views and still respect individual accomplishments. I have no idea whether they voted for Team Trump Treason or gave money to his campaign. If they did or do, yea that sucks and I hope they’ve realized the error of their ways. Come game time, all I care about for the next three hours is how they play the game and whether they played well or won or lost. Gee, if all that we know now were known pre-election, would Team Trump Treason be in the White House and would you even be bringing it up?"

Well for starters, I'm not sure what you mean when you say "If all that we know now were known pre-election...." Has anything surprised you about Trump's presidency? Isn't this EXACTLY what you expected when he was campaigning? It's exactly what I expected.

But the reason I even made this post is that you often suggest that people that like, voted for, or are friends of Trump, are racist morons. You do. You're going to deny it. But you constantly do. You and I have had a few back and forths where I tried to stick up for Middle-America Trump-Voters by suggesting they were either duped by Trump, or just desperate for something new. You always dismissed that and said nope, they're racists (or...indirect racists, by supporting Trump and turning a blind eye). But here, when talking about guys you admire (hell, I'm fucking Dolphins fan and I admire those three assholes too), you say it's "great that we can have different political views and still respect individual accomplishments." I completely agree with that statement. But I think it contradicts many of your previous posts.

as Jenna Jameson so readily admits, "when you're rich, you vote republican"

That ain't true. Not that Jenna isn't a bastion of knowledge, but it simply isn't a truism.

of course she's not. she's a fucking idiot.

Ledbetterman10 · December 2018

Halifax2TheMax said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Just bringing a conversation between Halifax and me over from the NFL thread on the AET board so we don't bother people over there with Trump shit.

Here's Halifax responding to me noting that he's a Patriots fan, and Trump-hater, yet Kraft, Belichick and Brady are all friends with Trump:

"I think you use the term “friends” a wee bit loosely. That said, one of things that makes us great is that we can have different political views and still respect individual accomplishments. I have no idea whether they voted for Team Trump Treason or gave money to his campaign. If they did or do, yea that sucks and I hope they’ve realized the error of their ways. Come game time, all I care about for the next three hours is how they play the game and whether they played well or won or lost. Gee, if all that we know now were known pre-election, would Team Trump Treason be in the White House and would you even be bringing it up?"

Well for starters, I'm not sure what you mean when you say "If all that we know now were known pre-election...." Has anything surprised you about Trump's presidency? Isn't this EXACTLY what you expected when he was campaigning? It's exactly what I expected.

But the reason I even made this post is that you often suggest that people that like, voted for, or are friends of Trump, are racist morons. You do. You're going to deny it. But you constantly do. You and I have had a few back and forths where I tried to stick up for Middle-America Trump-Voters by suggesting they were either duped by Trump, or just desperate for something new. You always dismissed that and said nope, they're racists (or...indirect racists, by supporting Trump and turning a blind eye). But here, when talking about guys you admire (hell, I'm fucking Dolphins fan and I admire those three assholes too), you say it's "great that we can have different political views and still respect individual accomplishments." I completely agree with that statement. But I think it contradicts many of your previous posts.

I have repeatedly stated what my thoughts are on Team Trump Treason voters and more importantly, his base of 35% to 40% that continue to support him. What hasn’t been determined or agreed upon, despite asking of those who continue to support Team Trump Treason, is what they should be referred to now, knowing what we do?And no, we didn’t have the full breadth of information now that we should have had then, pre-election. Not only that, did anyone ever think it would get this bad and look like it’s going to be so much worse when Team Mueller is finished?

While I’m certainly not “average” when it comes to news and information consumption, I am “normal.” Neither of which makes me better but it does make me engaged. More as it relates to the Patriots organization as I have way more to say but I’m on my phone.

Speaking of Mueller, did you happen to see Saturday Night Live this week? There was this sketch where the women on the show sang "We Wish You A Mueller Christmas" and I immediately thought of you. I intended to post it the next day on here for ya but for some reason, they didn't put that sketch on YouTube.

As for the Patriots, that's quite alright that you're on your phone and don't want to elaborate more. Hopefully my sorry-ass Dolphins can take them out this week for their semi-annual, home win over them.

Donald Trump

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