Is America the greatest country in the world?

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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,208
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    So, we know that Sweden can be a bit more expensive than the US because of us trying to have a health care system that isn't sadistic and free education and such. Our flat 25 % VAT on most goods etc.

    Without getting into the discussion about the US leading the way on bacteria resistance against antibiotics because of the private US doctors are giving their "customers" what they want and over-subscripe antiobiotics compared to other countries...

    ... I had surgery and had to get some antiobiotics on subscription for a 7 day treatment. It cost me $28.



    What would it cost in the US?
    If it is generic it would cost me $3. Brand would be $20. 
    It all depends on your insurance. 

    Lol

    That settles it. The US is better than Sweden.
    You know it.  I d rate Canada higher but it is just too damn cold up there. It is 15F here today, I can’t stand it. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    There is no doubt that if you were to consider health care a tax, America would have the highest taxe rates in the world.
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    No doubt in my mind the US has the best Thanksgiving,  Turkey, and ham and all the trimmings followed by football...
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,075
    Meltdown99 said:
    No doubt in my mind the US has the best Thanksgiving,  Turkey, and ham and all the trimmings followed by football...
    and an extra day off called "The day after thanksgiving". LOL. that's awesome. 
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,208
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    No doubt in my mind the US has the best Thanksgiving,  Turkey, and ham and all the trimmings followed by football...
    and an extra day off called "The day after thanksgiving". LOL. that's awesome. 
    It is nIce having a four day weekend. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    No doubt in my mind the US has the best Thanksgiving,  Turkey, and ham and all the trimmings followed by football...
    and an extra day off called "The day after thanksgiving". LOL. that's awesome. 
    Another great reason...
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    In Canada, we usually get a couple CFL games.  Might as well watch US high school football over the CFL.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,662
    Meltdown99 said:
    No doubt in my mind the US has the best Thanksgiving,  Turkey, and ham and all the trimmings followed by football...
    Well, Sweden has the best Midsommar.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,662
    Meltdown99 said:
    Maybe the Swedish dude should start a thread, Is Sweden better than the US???LOL
    Sweden is by pretty much every metric better than the US - from the treatment of its citiens to how it treats the planet.  So that would be a pretty short thread.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    edited November 2018
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Maybe the Swedish dude should start a thread, Is Sweden better than the US???LOL
    Sweden is by pretty much every metric better than the US - from the treatment of its citiens to how it treats the planet.  So that would be a pretty short thread.
    LMFAO...Highly doubt it...
    Post edited by Meltdown99 on
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,662
    Meltdown99 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Maybe the Swedish dude should start a thread, Is Sweden better than the US???LOL
    Sweden is by pretty much every metric better than the US - from the treatment of its citiens to how it treats the planet.  So that would be a pretty short thread.
    LMFAO...now you are sounding like an American...
    No. I'm being rational and objective.

    I'm not saying that Sweden is the greatest country ever or unique in some bald-eagles-soaring-in-the-sky kind of way. 

    It is better than the US.

    Like the US is better then North Korea.


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Maybe the Swedish dude should start a thread, Is Sweden better than the US???LOL
    Sweden is by pretty much every metric better than the US - from the treatment of its citiens to how it treats the planet.  So that would be a pretty short thread.
    LMFAO...now you are sounding like an American...
    No. I'm being rational and objective.

    I'm not saying that Sweden is the greatest country ever or unique in some bald-eagles-soaring-in-the-sky kind of way. 

    It is better than the US.

    Like the US is better then North Korea.


    It's not that simple, I would think that is pretty obvious.  
    Metrics don't tell the entire story, Sweden could be entirely defeated and swallowed up (economically or militarily) by any of a handful of US states.  Sweden's contribution to world culture is admirable, but truly miniscule in comparison to the United States.  
    And to head you off at the pass, there are countries like the UK, Germany, etc where that is just as applicable with smaller geography and population.  
    Sweden seems pretty awesome, but if you are talking greatest country in the world, Sweden just doesn't have much clout.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,075
    he was pretty clear that he isn't calling sweden the best on the globe, just better than the US
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    he was pretty clear that he isn't calling sweden the best on the globe, just better than the US
    Nothing like stating the obvious eh?
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    he was pretty clear that he isn't calling sweden the best on the globe, just better than the US
    Good point, I conflated.
    My point stands though.
    Hard to call yourself better than someone who can whoop your ass and influence everybody else far more than you.

    Quality of life, Sweden has it pretty good though.  Better than us, as a whole.
    Wish I had some of that sweet-ass Swedish national health coverage.  I have a wisdom tooth soon to be rotting in my head and getting it out will be equivalent to buying a family vehicle or taking a big family vacation.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,075
    rgambs said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    he was pretty clear that he isn't calling sweden the best on the globe, just better than the US
    Good point, I conflated.
    My point stands though.
    Hard to call yourself better than someone who can whoop your ass and influence everybody else far more than you.

    Quality of life, Sweden has it pretty good though.  Better than us, as a whole.
    Wish I had some of that sweet-ass Swedish national health coverage.  I have a wisdom tooth soon to be rotting in my head and getting it out will be equivalent to buying a family vehicle or taking a big family vacation.
    well, again, this comes back to what makes something "better". talking your example and relating it to humans, I don't consider someone who can kick my ass better than me. 

    to me the determination is quality of life and happiness of their citizens. 
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,662
    edited November 2018
    rgambs said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    he was pretty clear that he isn't calling sweden the best on the globe, just better than the US
    Good point, I conflated.
    My point stands though.
    Hard to call yourself better than someone who can whoop your ass and influence everybody else far more than you.

    Quality of life, Sweden has it pretty good though.  Better than us, as a whole.
    Wish I had some of that sweet-ass Swedish national health coverage.  I have a wisdom tooth soon to be rotting in my head and getting it out will be equivalent to buying a family vehicle or taking a big family vacation.
    Nazi Germany could whoop our ass and influenced everybody else more than us in the 1930s.

    What has that to do with anhthing.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,946
    edited November 2018
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    So, we know that Sweden can be a bit more expensive than the US because of us trying to have a health care system that isn't sadistic and free education and such. Our flat 25 % VAT on most goods etc.

    Without getting into the discussion about the US leading the way on bacteria resistance against antibiotics because of the private US doctors are giving their "customers" what they want and over-subscripe antiobiotics compared to other countries...

    ... I had surgery and had to get some antiobiotics on subscription for a 7 day treatment. It cost me $28.



    What would it cost in the US?
    If it is generic it would cost me $3. Brand would be $20. 
    It all depends on your insurance. 
    someone without insurance?
    The insurance cost $7000....
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,946
    Meltdown99 said:
    In Canada, we usually get a couple CFL games.  Might as well watch US high school football over the CFL.
    I bet to differ. CFL is a really good game.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    rgambs said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    he was pretty clear that he isn't calling sweden the best on the globe, just better than the US
    Good point, I conflated.
    My point stands though.
    Hard to call yourself better than someone who can whoop your ass and influence everybody else far more than you.

    Quality of life, Sweden has it pretty good though.  Better than us, as a whole.
    Wish I had some of that sweet-ass Swedish national health coverage.  I have a wisdom tooth soon to be rotting in my head and getting it out will be equivalent to buying a family vehicle or taking a big family vacation.
    Most Canadians either pay out of pocket or have to rely on private insurance for dental and pharmaceuticals...
    Give Peas A Chance…
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