John McCain
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Thanks.HughFreakingDillon said:
man, you post a lot of questionable shit.JC29856 said:lMcCain was so crazed about killing, he killed even by accident!
https://prepareforchange.net/2017/09/11/navy-releases-mccains-records-mccain-was-personally-responsible-for-the-deadliest-fire-in-the-history-of-the-us-navy/
McCain was personally responsible for the deadliest fire in the history of the US Navy. That catastrophe, with 27 dead and over 100 wounded
I'll throw in something from Tapper, he got his start by being a fanboy.
Did we soon forget the Keating 5? Or did I post that already?
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McCain grave stone will read
"Too much war is never enough"
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JC29856 said:
Thanks.HughFreakingDillon said:
man, you post a lot of questionable shit.JC29856 said:lMcCain was so crazed about killing, he killed even by accident!
https://prepareforchange.net/2017/09/11/navy-releases-mccains-records-mccain-was-personally-responsible-for-the-deadliest-fire-in-the-history-of-the-us-navy/
McCain was personally responsible for the deadliest fire in the history of the US Navy. That catastrophe, with 27 dead and over 100 wounded
I'll throw in something from Tapper, he got his start by being a fanboy.
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Oh boy...Halifax2TheMax said:JC29856 said:
Thanks.HughFreakingDillon said:
man, you post a lot of questionable shit.JC29856 said:lMcCain was so crazed about killing, he killed even by accident!
https://prepareforchange.net/2017/09/11/navy-releases-mccains-records-mccain-was-personally-responsible-for-the-deadliest-fire-in-the-history-of-the-us-navy/
McCain was personally responsible for the deadliest fire in the history of the US Navy. That catastrophe, with 27 dead and over 100 wounded
I'll throw in something from Tapper, he got his start by being a fanboy.
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McCain hated Trump, and Trump hates McCain. I don't understand why anyone expects or even wants Trump to do anything. To me, it would be more respectful for him to keep his trap shut completely. Instead, everyone's forced a completely fucking insincere statement out of him.
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because even your adversaries are to be respected in death in a professional manner. he can say what he wants behind closed doors, but in public, as a head of state, he should be respectful.PJ_Soul said:McCain hated Trump, and Trump hates McCain. I don't understand why anyone expects or even wants Trump to do anything. To me, it would be more respectful for him to keep his trap shut completely. Instead, everyone's forced a completely fucking insincere statement out of him.
no one expects Trump to be an adult, but it's normal to want him to be.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
Well it's not like he spat on his corpse or anything. He sent a tweet, lowered a flag for 2 days... for someone who considered himself McCain's enemy, and someone who McCain obviously hated, I think enough was done in a professional manner. It only really got unprofessional when people started hounding Trump about it. I personally found it gross to watch Trump stand up and say a bunch of shit he doesn't believe, knowing he was forced to it just to shut people up. I think that is totally disrespectful to McCain's memory (not that I'm concerned about McCain's memory.... I'm patiently waiting for the pearl clutching to end).HughFreakingDillon said:
because even your adversaries are to be respected in death in a professional manner. he can say what he wants behind closed doors, but in public, as a head of state, he should be respectful.PJ_Soul said:McCain hated Trump, and Trump hates McCain. I don't understand why anyone expects or even wants Trump to do anything. To me, it would be more respectful for him to keep his trap shut completely. Instead, everyone's forced a completely fucking insincere statement out of him.
no one expects Trump to be an adult, but it's normal to want him to be.
And flipping out about "only" 2 days of a lowered flag... I think it's a bunch of silliness.
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"Manhatten real estate." I wonder who's heavily vested in Manhatten real estate? Hmmmmmmm, maybe our resident road kill skolar can help us out? If he can get the stamps off their finger tips and onto the poster tube, that is?JC29856 said:
Oh boy...Halifax2TheMax said:JC29856 said:
Thanks.HughFreakingDillon said:
man, you post a lot of questionable shit.JC29856 said:lMcCain was so crazed about killing, he killed even by accident!
https://prepareforchange.net/2017/09/11/navy-releases-mccains-records-mccain-was-personally-responsible-for-the-deadliest-fire-in-the-history-of-the-us-navy/
McCain was personally responsible for the deadliest fire in the history of the US Navy. That catastrophe, with 27 dead and over 100 wounded
I'll throw in something from Tapper, he got his start by being a fanboy.
Did we soon forget the Keating 5? Or did I post that already?William Browder
Sergi Magnitsky
Hermitage Capital
Natalia Veselnitskaya
Jared Kushner
Paul Manafort
Michael Cohen
Alexander Pereepilichny
Michael McFaul
Heather Nauert
Mossack Fonseca
Robert Otto
Bernie Sucher
Steven Dashevsky
Gazprom
Kalmykia
Yukos Oil
Mikhail Khodorkovsky
Celeste Wallander
Kameya
Benjimin Cardin
David Kramer
Stephen Sestanovich
Daniel Fried
Michael Carpenter
Boris Nemstov
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Pyotr Katsyv
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Yuri Chaika
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I didn't see it, nor will I. You're right in that everyone can see through it so plainly it is painfully obvious it's completely fabricated. he really is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't here. But it's of his own doing and how he conducts himself on a tweet to tweet basis.PJ_Soul said:
Well I personally found it gross to watch Trump stand up and say a bunch of shit he doesn't believe, knowing he was forced to it just to shut people up. I think that is totally disrespectful to McCain's memory (not that I'm concerned about McCain's memory.... I'm patiently waiting for the pearl clutching to end).HughFreakingDillon said:
because even your adversaries are to be respected in death in a professional manner. he can say what he wants behind closed doors, but in public, as a head of state, he should be respectful.PJ_Soul said:McCain hated Trump, and Trump hates McCain. I don't understand why anyone expects or even wants Trump to do anything. To me, it would be more respectful for him to keep his trap shut completely. Instead, everyone's forced a completely fucking insincere statement out of him.
no one expects Trump to be an adult, but it's normal to want him to be.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
Sure, but he didn't actually do anything untoward when it came to McCain's death in the first place. He posted a condolences tweet, he had the WH flag lowered for the officially recommended time. That was enough from someone who McCain preemptively banned from his own funeral IMO, lol. Frankly, for once I think Trump got it right (until forced to make it bad) and everyone else got it wrong in their reaction/expectations.HughFreakingDillon said:
I didn't see it, nor will I. You're right in that everyone can see through it so plainly it is painfully obvious it's completely fabricated. he really is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't here. But it's of his own doing and how he conducts himself on a tweet to tweet basis.PJ_Soul said:
Well I personally found it gross to watch Trump stand up and say a bunch of shit he doesn't believe, knowing he was forced to it just to shut people up. I think that is totally disrespectful to McCain's memory (not that I'm concerned about McCain's memory.... I'm patiently waiting for the pearl clutching to end).HughFreakingDillon said:
because even your adversaries are to be respected in death in a professional manner. he can say what he wants behind closed doors, but in public, as a head of state, he should be respectful.PJ_Soul said:McCain hated Trump, and Trump hates McCain. I don't understand why anyone expects or even wants Trump to do anything. To me, it would be more respectful for him to keep his trap shut completely. Instead, everyone's forced a completely fucking insincere statement out of him.
no one expects Trump to be an adult, but it's normal to want him to be.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Might have something to do with McCain's involvement with the dossier and the seriousness of actual "treason".HughFreakingDillon said:
because even your adversaries are to be respected in death in a professional manner. he can say what he wants behind closed doors, but in public, as a head of state, he should be respectful.PJ_Soul said:McCain hated Trump, and Trump hates McCain. I don't understand why anyone expects or even wants Trump to do anything. To me, it would be more respectful for him to keep his trap shut completely. Instead, everyone's forced a completely fucking insincere statement out of him.
no one expects Trump to be an adult, but it's normal to want him to be.
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laughable or maybe he hated the baffoon for being a Russian puppet ..JC29856 said:
Might have something to do with McCain's involvement with the dossier and the seriousness of actual "treason".HughFreakingDillon said:
because even your adversaries are to be respected in death in a professional manner. he can say what he wants behind closed doors, but in public, as a head of state, he should be respectful.PJ_Soul said:McCain hated Trump, and Trump hates McCain. I don't understand why anyone expects or even wants Trump to do anything. To me, it would be more respectful for him to keep his trap shut completely. Instead, everyone's forced a completely fucking insincere statement out of him.
no one expects Trump to be an adult, but it's normal to want him to be.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
he offered his respect to McCain's family, while saying nothing about McCain himself. that was not enough. not for a sitting senator. not for a pow. not for a veteran.PJ_Soul said:
Sure, but he didn't actually do anything untoward when it came to McCain's death in the first place. He posted a condolences tweet, he had the WH flag lowered for the officially recommended time. That was enough from someone who McCain preemptively banned from his own funeral IMO, lol. Frankly, for once I think Trump got it right (until forced to make it bad) and everyone else got it wrong in their reaction/expectations.HughFreakingDillon said:
I didn't see it, nor will I. You're right in that everyone can see through it so plainly it is painfully obvious it's completely fabricated. he really is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't here. But it's of his own doing and how he conducts himself on a tweet to tweet basis.PJ_Soul said:
Well I personally found it gross to watch Trump stand up and say a bunch of shit he doesn't believe, knowing he was forced to it just to shut people up. I think that is totally disrespectful to McCain's memory (not that I'm concerned about McCain's memory.... I'm patiently waiting for the pearl clutching to end).HughFreakingDillon said:
because even your adversaries are to be respected in death in a professional manner. he can say what he wants behind closed doors, but in public, as a head of state, he should be respectful.PJ_Soul said:McCain hated Trump, and Trump hates McCain. I don't understand why anyone expects or even wants Trump to do anything. To me, it would be more respectful for him to keep his trap shut completely. Instead, everyone's forced a completely fucking insincere statement out of him.
no one expects Trump to be an adult, but it's normal to want him to be.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
Pretty good message, not bad messenger
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If Trump and McCain were best buddies everyone of you predictable people would be calling McCain out ... quit being fucking hypocrites.Give Peas A Chance…0
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jesus christ.Meltdown99 said:If Trump and McCain were best buddies everyone of you predictable people would be calling McCain out ... quit being fucking hypocrites.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
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What? When Trump dies, are people here going to say we need to honor him just because he was a president? Are we now going to be sad and remorseful when Bush and his minions start dying? I think what we should really be doing is analyzing the criteria for when someone who dies receives certain honors based on a lifetime of supporting wars, racism, divisiveness and the like. Maybe McCain balanced the scales in the end, maybe he didn't. He died, he was honored and that's it. If Trump wanted to make a statement it should have been real. You can pay respects without pandering.HughFreakingDillon said:
jesus christ.Meltdown99 said:If Trump and McCain were best buddies everyone of you predictable people would be calling McCain out ... quit being fucking hypocrites.It's a hopeless situation...0 -
I am the type of person that finds eulogies and obituaries to only be half the story. They have always bothered me, just for that fact. I want to write my own, so i can tell the real story of how much of an asshole I could sometimes be.tbergs said:
What? When Trump dies, are people here going to say we need to honor him just because he was a president? Are we now going to be sad and remorseful when Bush and his minions start dying? I think what we should really be doing is analyzing the criteria for when someone who dies receives certain honors based on a lifetime of supporting wars, racism, divisiveness and the like. Maybe McCain balanced the scales in the end, maybe he didn't. He died, he was honored and that's it. If Trump wanted to make a statement it should have been real. You can pay respects without pandering.HughFreakingDillon said:
jesus christ.Meltdown99 said:If Trump and McCain were best buddies everyone of you predictable people would be calling McCain out ... quit being fucking hypocrites.
Everyone knows no one is a saint.
But the office of the president is different than just any other eulogy or statement of respect being paid. Does mccain deserve to have some special monument in his honour? I don't know and I don't care. All I'm saying is that trump is acting like a child with this behaviour. Like I said, I'm not surprised, but that doesn't take away from how pathetic it is.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
Welll written, shows the ever changing media narrative of McCain 00 to McCain 08 to McCain 16. Interesting
https://medium.com/@mtracey/john-mccain-was-not-an-anecdote-2b1b4dcc4dd
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