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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,679
    You don't want to use olive oil all the time obviously; that flavour does not suit many, many dishes ... But I'm not sure why anyone wouldn't want to use it for pizza specifically.
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,814
    Because the pros say so.  They know more about oil than we do.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,679
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Because the pros say so.  They know more about oil than we do.
    Don't most pros use olive oil for pizza??
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,814
    Sorry, misread...thought you were questioning why to use....I see you were asking why wouldn't you use...
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  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Canola is pretty bland; Olive oil is going to have more flavor.  But I wouldn't say it's "much healthier" than Canola.  They're still the two healthiest oils you can use in cooking; both are low in saturated fat and contain a decent amount of Omega-3's. I would still prefer Olive oil for pizza just because of the flavor component.  Canola has a higher smoke point, so it is better for high-temp cooking like fying (which may be where the unhealthy misconception comes from).
    All true but canola is GMO based on most cases. That’s the differentiator from a health perspective. 
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,679
    edited July 2018
    bbiggs said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Canola is pretty bland; Olive oil is going to have more flavor.  But I wouldn't say it's "much healthier" than Canola.  They're still the two healthiest oils you can use in cooking; both are low in saturated fat and contain a decent amount of Omega-3's. I would still prefer Olive oil for pizza just because of the flavor component.  Canola has a higher smoke point, so it is better for high-temp cooking like fying (which may be where the unhealthy misconception comes from).
    All true but canola is GMO based on most cases. That’s the differentiator from a health perspective. 
    GMOs and health have nothing to do with each other, generally. Anything making a GMO canola oil less healthy would likely be the same thing making a non-GMO canola oil less healthy (or not). That GMOs are worse from a health perspective just because they are GMOs is a common misconception in the fight against GMOs.
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  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
    ^ If I have my choice to eat GMO or non-GMO, I’m going non-GMO every time. I think the jury is still out about GMO in general, but most of the time the reason the crop is GMO is so it can withstand the heavy dose of glyphosate it will get. I don’t think the health consequences of eating glyphosate are debatable. But that’s probably a conversation for another thread, so back to pies!! ;) 
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,679
    edited July 2018
    bbiggs said:
    ^ If I have my choice to eat GMO or non-GMO, I’m going non-GMO every time. I think the jury is still out about GMO in general, but most of the time the reason the crop is GMO is so it can withstand the heavy dose of glyphosate it will get. I don’t think the health consequences of eating glyphosate are debatable. But that’s probably a conversation for another thread, so back to pies!! ;) 
    Aw, but it's such a good conversation. ;) Just one last post: I am super anti-GMO, but it has nothing to do with health at all. Of course you get a dose of any number of poisons from GMO food (though I disagree that "most" of the time that is what a GMO crop is about - the purposes of GMOs are all over the board) ... But you can get a dose of poison from non-GMO foods too. There are GMOs that didn't get a heavy dose of glyphosate. There are plenty of GMOs that actually require fewer pesticides because it is more resilient and doesn't require as many to thrive. What I'm really saying (obviously) is that poisons in our foods isn't really a GMO problem. It's a food problem. And frankly, GMOs could literally be promoted as a way to significantly lower our exposure, if the GMO industry wanted to go that way. Anyway, being against GMOs isn't about health for me - it the terrible global socio-economic consequences that the GMO industry has and will have in the future as it grows. That scares the shit out of me!!

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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,288
    just ate some leftover buffalo chicken pizza....nothing I would ever order and this confirmed it.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,814
    You know what leftover buffalo chicken pizza needs?
    A shitton of hot sauce.  Red onion and hot sauce will make any crappy pizza taste ok.
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    mschostok said:
    For the record, this is my favorite thread on the forum. Please, continue everyone. 
    Haha! Thanks man! Wish I could make it to Wrigley this year.
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Wobbie said:
    just ate some leftover buffalo chicken pizza....nothing I would ever order and this confirmed it.

    Man you are in the gutter lately.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,395
    H.Chinaski said:
    Definitely prefer Olive oil but still use canola for dough and sauting. Olive for sauce, finishing, etc. This is mainly because i'm poor and can't really afford to be blowing thru bottles of Olive oil left and right as i love to cook and do it often. That being said Trader Joe's has some great Oils for a decent price. 

    https://www.traderjoes.com/digin/post/guide-to-evoo
    I should have been clearer on this.

    The dough.

    Do they all use olive oil for the dough?

    Thread integrity:

    I'm attending a wedding rehearsal dinner tonight at an Italian place where they serve good food and Pizza.  

    Do I bypass the food and go straight for the pizza?
  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
    ^ you absolutely bypass the food and go straight for the pizza! 
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,395
    bbiggs said:
    ^ you absolutely bypass the food and go straight for the pizza! 
    The question is almost rhetorical at this point, lol.

    I just need a little encouragement!!!
  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
    tempo_n_groove said:
    bbiggs said:
    ^ you absolutely bypass the food and go straight for the pizza! 
    The question is almost rhetorical at this point, lol.

    I just need a little encouragement!!!
    This is the right place to find that needed encouragement, my friend! 
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,395
    bbiggs said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    bbiggs said:
    ^ you absolutely bypass the food and go straight for the pizza! 
    The question is almost rhetorical at this point, lol.

    I just need a little encouragement!!!
    This is the right place to find that needed encouragement, my friend! 
    Funny how I only needed prodding from one person, lol.

    I'll take pics.  It's a new place to me so we shall see.
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,814
    tempo_n_groove said:
    H.Chinaski said:
    Definitely prefer Olive oil but still use canola for dough and sauting. Olive for sauce, finishing, etc. This is mainly because i'm poor and can't really afford to be blowing thru bottles of Olive oil left and right as i love to cook and do it often. That being said Trader Joe's has some great Oils for a decent price. 

    https://www.traderjoes.com/digin/post/guide-to-evoo
    I should have been clearer on this.

    The dough.

    Do they all use olive oil for the dough?

    Thread integrity:

    I'm attending a wedding rehearsal dinner tonight at an Italian place where they serve good food and Pizza.  

    Do I bypass the food and go straight for the pizza?
    I went to a rehearsal dinner at a place like that once.  A dude who never drinks drank with us and he barfed pie all over the patio.  It was fucking awesome.  Top 5 rehearsal dinner.

    And I love your thought process.  Have fun!
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,395
    F Me In The Brain said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    H.Chinaski said:
    Definitely prefer Olive oil but still use canola for dough and sauting. Olive for sauce, finishing, etc. This is mainly because i'm poor and can't really afford to be blowing thru bottles of Olive oil left and right as i love to cook and do it often. That being said Trader Joe's has some great Oils for a decent price. 

    https://www.traderjoes.com/digin/post/guide-to-evoo
    I should have been clearer on this.

    The dough.

    Do they all use olive oil for the dough?

    Thread integrity:

    I'm attending a wedding rehearsal dinner tonight at an Italian place where they serve good food and Pizza.  

    Do I bypass the food and go straight for the pizza?
    I went to a rehearsal dinner at a place like that once.  A dude who never drinks drank with us and he barfed pie all over the patio.  It was fucking awesome.  Top 5 rehearsal dinner.

    And I love your thought process.  Have fun!
    I'm hoping that we do not "top" your rehearsal dinner, lol.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,679
    Wobbie said:
    just ate some leftover buffalo chicken pizza....nothing I would ever order and this confirmed it.
    Yeah, blech. I don't like that either. I don't like chicken on pizza much in any case, but the buffalo chicken pizzas are the worst ones.
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