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I am sure it will ... I'll make 1 thing clear. I'm OK with free trade with US, but Mexico I am not ...PJ_Soul said:
He will have a real affect on our lives, especially economically, with this trade war he's started.Meltdown99 said:
Well for one, I really don't pay that much attention to Trump. I have no say in US elections. I am not comrade meltdown66 ... more like a hoser, eh.PJ_Soul said:
Trump is a whole lot more than offensive, but if you only pay attention to the superficial crap, then I can see why you'd think that.Meltdown99 said:I still think Bush Jr. was worse. Trump is just offensive. Bush started 2 big wars that lead to a bigger mess. Not saying Trump won't start a war, there is time...Give Peas A Chance…0 - 
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I think I might know why you're saying that, but some experts think that having free-trade with Mexico is mainly beneficial for the purpose of continually expanding trade in the Americas - not maintaining free trade relations with Mexico would apparently damage those avenues. And while Trump wants to separate everyone - divide and conquer - it is the opinion of many that maintaining as many trade ties with other nations as possible will be to Canada's benefit in the long run when it comes to dealing with the US. That seems like a very valid argument to me.Meltdown99 said:
I am sure it will ... I'll make 1 thing clear. I'm OK with free trade with US, but Mexico I am not ...PJ_Soul said:
He will have a real affect on our lives, especially economically, with this trade war he's started.Meltdown99 said:
Well for one, I really don't pay that much attention to Trump. I have no say in US elections. I am not comrade meltdown66 ... more like a hoser, eh.PJ_Soul said:
Trump is a whole lot more than offensive, but if you only pay attention to the superficial crap, then I can see why you'd think that.Meltdown99 said:I still think Bush Jr. was worse. Trump is just offensive. Bush started 2 big wars that lead to a bigger mess. Not saying Trump won't start a war, there is time...
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they believe him tooPJ_Soul said:
These lies are very deliberate IMO, not delusional at all. All of his lies are - they have a purpose. Trump understands that if you just lie enough the truth becomes irrelevant. And it's totally working. He is actually a pretty damn good fascist. I think he's really studied up on fascist propaganda tactics, or someone advising him has.Halifax2TheMax said:
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            The Team Trump Treason Administration wants to give farmers $12 billion in aid to offset the effects of retalitory tariffs. How fucking stupid is that? Where is the money coming from? I thought the repubes were fiscally responsible, firm stewards of the nation's resources? A self-inflicted $12 billion dollar blunder. Idiots. And suckers.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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Yeah, for supposed fiscal conservatives who pray to the gods of the free market, Republicans sure do like financial bailouts.Halifax2TheMax said:The Team Trump Treason Administration wants to give farmers $12 billion in aid to offset the effects of retalitory tariffs. How fucking stupid is that? Where is the money coming from? I thought the repubes were fiscally responsible, firm stewards of the nation's resources? A self-inflicted $12 billion dollar blunder. Idiots. And suckers.
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I figured this was coming.Halifax2TheMax said:The Team Trump Treason Administration wants to give farmers $12 billion in aid to offset the effects of retalitory tariffs. How fucking stupid is that? Where is the money coming from? I thought the repubes were fiscally responsible, firm stewards of the nation's resources? A self-inflicted $12 billion dollar blunder. Idiots. And suckers.
Subsidiaries to the farmers has long been documented. Nothing new about this.
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This is beyond ridiculous...The Juggler said:I thought this was a parody account at first
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I don't think subsidies alone are the issue. They have been around forever for various things because a true "free market" does not exist, has never existed, and can not exist.tempo_n_groove said:
I figured this was coming.Halifax2TheMax said:The Team Trump Treason Administration wants to give farmers $12 billion in aid to offset the effects of retalitory tariffs. How fucking stupid is that? Where is the money coming from? I thought the repubes were fiscally responsible, firm stewards of the nation's resources? A self-inflicted $12 billion dollar blunder. Idiots. And suckers.
Subsidiaries to the farmers has long been documented. Nothing new about this.
I'll have to read up more on this.
I think the issue is that a lot of farmers essentially shot themselves in the foot by voting for trump, started a go fund me page to pay for hospital bills, and now we are all forced to donate. Trump created a crisis for no reason, but this was not hard to see coming6/26/98, 8/17/00, 10/8/00, 12/8/02, 12/9/02, 4/25/03, 5/28/03, 6/1/03, 6/3/03, 6/5/03, 6/6/03, 6/12/03, 6/13/03, 6/15/03, 6/18/03, 6/21/03, 6/22/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03, 10/3/04, 10/5/04, 9/9/05, 9/11/05, 9/16/05, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 5/19/06, 6/30/06, 7/23/06, 8/5/07, 6/30/08, 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 5/4/10, 5/7/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/11/13, 10/17/14, 8/20/160 - 
            
Especially considering when asked at the Helsinki press conference, Vladimir Putin clearly stated he wanted Trump to win...........tempo_n_groove said:
This is beyond ridiculous...The Juggler said:I thought this was a parody account at first
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            PJ_Soul said:
Yeah, for supposed fiscal conservatives who pray to the gods of the free market, Republicans sure do like financial bailouts.Halifax2TheMax said:The Team Trump Treason Administration wants to give farmers $12 billion in aid to offset the effects of retalitory tariffs. How fucking stupid is that? Where is the money coming from? I thought the repubes were fiscally responsible, firm stewards of the nation's resources? A self-inflicted $12 billion dollar blunder. Idiots. And suckers.
So he's basically raising everyone's taxes with tariffs and then bailing out the industry his tariffs affect the most? In what world does this make sense?www.myspace.com0 - 
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The Trump administration on Tuesday announced up to $12 billion in emergency relief for farmers hurt by the president’s trade war, moving to to insulate food producers from looming financial losses that would be a direct result of President Trump’s policies.The Juggler said:PJ_Soul said:
Yeah, for supposed fiscal conservatives who pray to the gods of the free market, Republicans sure do like financial bailouts.Halifax2TheMax said:The Team Trump Treason Administration wants to give farmers $12 billion in aid to offset the effects of retalitory tariffs. How fucking stupid is that? Where is the money coming from? I thought the repubes were fiscally responsible, firm stewards of the nation's resources? A self-inflicted $12 billion dollar blunder. Idiots. And suckers.
So he's basically raising everyone's taxes with tariffs and then bailing out the industry his tariffs affect the most? In what world does this make sense?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/24/us/politics/farmers-aid-trade-war.html
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Funny how socialism is ok depending on who benefits!Halifax2TheMax said:
The Trump administration on Tuesday announced up to $12 billion in emergency relief for farmers hurt by the president’s trade war, moving to to insulate food producers from looming financial losses that would be a direct result of President Trump’s policies.The Juggler said:PJ_Soul said:
Yeah, for supposed fiscal conservatives who pray to the gods of the free market, Republicans sure do like financial bailouts.Halifax2TheMax said:The Team Trump Treason Administration wants to give farmers $12 billion in aid to offset the effects of retalitory tariffs. How fucking stupid is that? Where is the money coming from? I thought the repubes were fiscally responsible, firm stewards of the nation's resources? A self-inflicted $12 billion dollar blunder. Idiots. And suckers.
So he's basically raising everyone's taxes with tariffs and then bailing out the industry his tariffs affect the most? In what world does this make sense?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/24/us/politics/farmers-aid-trade-war.htmlAre we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
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Subsidiaries? What do you mean? Do you mean subsidies?tempo_n_groove said:
I figured this was coming.Halifax2TheMax said:The Team Trump Treason Administration wants to give farmers $12 billion in aid to offset the effects of retalitory tariffs. How fucking stupid is that? Where is the money coming from? I thought the repubes were fiscally responsible, firm stewards of the nation's resources? A self-inflicted $12 billion dollar blunder. Idiots. And suckers.
Subsidiaries to the farmers has long been documented. Nothing new about this.
I'll have to read up more on this.
A bailout resulting from a trade war is a whole lot different than annual subsidies.
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            PJ_Soul said:
I think I might know why you're saying that, but some experts think that having free-trade with Mexico is mainly beneficial for the purpose of continually expanding trade in the Americas - not maintaining free trade relations with Mexico would apparently damage those avenues. And while Trump wants to separate everyone - divide and conquer - it is the opinion of many that maintaining as many trade ties with other nations as possible will be to Canada's benefit in the long run when it comes to dealing with the US. That seems like a very valid argument to me.Meltdown99 said:
I am sure it will ... I'll make 1 thing clear. I'm OK with free trade with US, but Mexico I am not ...PJ_Soul said:
He will have a real affect on our lives, especially economically, with this trade war he's started.Meltdown99 said:
Well for one, I really don't pay that much attention to Trump. I have no say in US elections. I am not comrade meltdown66 ... more like a hoser, eh.PJ_Soul said:
Trump is a whole lot more than offensive, but if you only pay attention to the superficial crap, then I can see why you'd think that.Meltdown99 said:I still think Bush Jr. was worse. Trump is just offensive. Bush started 2 big wars that lead to a bigger mess. Not saying Trump won't start a war, there is time...
I am saying this because the trade agreement has decimated Ontario manufacturing, especially southwester Ontario. We can not compete with 5.00/day wages or whatever there wage are. I understand why, the economies of the 2 countries are intertwined. Then maybe fluff should join trump in demanding wage protection from Mexico.Give Peas A Chance…0 
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