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  • camsjam
    camsjam Posts: 375
    Well nice to meet a birthday brother! It's ironic how I used to think our "power numbers" meant we would always be lucky in life. As I said before I wish I had an answer to ease your struggles. I can't imagine how difficult it must be. And I believe you are showing a lot of courage every time you are able to get out and do anything. My own experiences are a pale shadow of what you face and I know how hard it is to get the desire, energy and guts to face another day sometimes. And people who haven't  had to deal with it just don't understand. It's not a mood, choice or a rough patch but a true fight for a life. Please keep fighting. If you'd feel okay PMing me an address I'd like to send you a bday card. Just get thru each day as it comes. 
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,904
    Wow ok cool. Im fighting the hardest i ever have


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    All other posts aside, on the topic of working to beat anxiety...
    It does take work, and I haven't seen many (any?) posts about Cognitive Behavioural Therapy.  It's really the only solution to anxiety.  Drugs, clean living, exercise, etc those are stopgap measures that ameliorate symptoms, but they don't address the source.
    My time dealing with anxiety was intense but only lasted a few months.  During that time I researched CBT relentlessly and devised my own personal system of rerouting bad thoughts, confronting triggers, and ruthlessly attacking the anxiety like it was an external foe.  When I had a few good days in a row I would trigger a panic attack so that I could grit my way through it and come out of the fire more confident.  I wouldnt necessarily recommend that for others lol
     My anxiety presented as Acute Panic Disorder after a very bad trip.  I was constantly afraid of having panic attacks at bad times, like driving or in front of people I wanted to respect me.  
    Anyways, it takes constant and diligent work to redirect your mind when it goes astray, and I really believe that the work required doesn't come naturally.  No matter how painful depression and anxiety are, we ALL have this disgusting tendancy to wallow in bad feelings even when we have reason to leave them behind.  Poe called such self-destructive struggles the Imp of the Perverse in a brilliant short story.

    Lastexitlondon, if I were in your position, I would say that my only option is to ruthlessly attack the health anxiety by constantly reminding yourself that you passed the dementia test perfectly and that your symptoms are psychosomatic and invented/exaggerated by your Imp of the Perverse.
    Not saying that is a fact, just that it's the attitude I would adopt until the doctors find otherwise or you conquer it.
    Good luck bud!
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    rgambs said:
    All other posts aside, on the topic of working to beat anxiety...
    It does take work, and I haven't seen many (any?) posts about Cognitive Behavioural Therapy.  It's really the only solution to anxiety.  Drugs, clean living, exercise, etc those are stopgap measures that ameliorate symptoms, but they don't address the source.
    My time dealing with anxiety was intense but only lasted a few months.  During that time I researched CBT relentlessly and devised my own personal system of rerouting bad thoughts, confronting triggers, and ruthlessly attacking the anxiety like it was an external foe.  When I had a few good days in a row I would trigger a panic attack so that I could grit my way through it and come out of the fire more confident.  I wouldnt necessarily recommend that for others lol
     My anxiety presented as Acute Panic Disorder after a very bad trip.  I was constantly afraid of having panic attacks at bad times, like driving or in front of people I wanted to respect me.  
    Anyways, it takes constant and diligent work to redirect your mind when it goes astray, and I really believe that the work required doesn't come naturally.  No matter how painful depression and anxiety are, we ALL have this disgusting tendancy to wallow in bad feelings even when we have reason to leave them behind.  Poe called such self-destructive struggles the Imp of the Perverse in a brilliant short story.

    Lastexitlondon, if I were in your position, I would say that my only option is to ruthlessly attack the health anxiety by constantly reminding yourself that you passed the dementia test perfectly and that your symptoms are psychosomatic and invented/exaggerated by your Imp of the Perverse.
    Not saying that is a fact, just that it's the attitude I would adopt until the doctors find otherwise or you conquer it.
    Good luck bud!
    very intelligent post. wish I was as strong as you gambs. 
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,904
    Great post indeed. Ive been to cbt. And am again going . I went today. 


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    It was acute, much easier to deal with than chronic.  I was strong, but strength without stamina isn't so impressive.  
    I had never dealt with any level of anxiety, I literally didn't really understand the meaning of the word.  When I had my first panic attack it hit me like a 50 ft wave and I had zero coping skills, so I had a couple really shitty weeks.  I thought I would need to check myself into a hospital, I lost 20 lbs in a month, etc etc...  4 months after my first, I had my last.  I still get close occasionally if I get too high, but I go back to my breathing exercises and squash that horrible feeling of panic rising from the gut into the throat.
    Overall, my anxiety story isn't one that's inspirational, but I do feel like it's a rather pedestrian lesson in learning coping skills and attacking weaknesses head on.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    lastexitlondon said:
    Great post indeed. Ive been to cbt. And am again going . I went today. 
    Excellent, if you are diligent with your "homework", I have to believe you are on the right path.
    Changing the way you rhink is probably the very hardest thing you can do, but it can be done.  In your case, must be done.
    You know how much you have to live for, you don't need anyone reminding you of that, but occasionally you need someone to tell you that you CAN do it.  It's a motherfucking bitch, of course, but in my best (horrible) Michael Caine accent, "Why do we fall down?  So we can learn to get back up."
    Or something like that lol
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Also, "Some men just want to watch the world burn." 
    Just because.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    today is a bad day. 
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,904
    Whats happening hfd


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,904
    Im around if you need to talk


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Hang in there, Hugh.  If you need to wallow, or scream...well, just do what you can in the moment to take care of yourself.

    gambs, I always knew you were insightful, but I think moreso since you've had your kiddo.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    today is a bad day. 
    I hope it gets better for you, HFD.  Hang in there my friend!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,904
    Keep strong HFD and hopefully it will pass soon


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    PJ_Soul said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    PJ_Soul said:

    Meltdown99 said:
    Counselling NHS...

    https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/counselling/

    In 2 seconds I found out how you can access free therapy paid by your health service.

    If you are relying on your GP for your mental health ... you'll never get better.  GP's are just that, general practitioners...therapist special in helping you sort out your problems.



    You seem to be assuming that lastexitlondon is completely clueless and has never been to therapy, which is not the case.
    At some point you have to help yourself as well.  Coming to a bands website and constantly saying your not getting help/better is not going to change your situation.  Why keep going to your GP thinking you have dementia when he's saying you don't, yet he is convinced he has dementia.  If he doesn't trust what his dr is saying...why come here and complain. 
    You know, you've got a right to your opinion, but this is not the thread to be doing what you're doing. This is a support thread, and one that's obviously used at least partly as a form of catharsis, not one where it's appropriate for you to question why people are seeking support here and saying they're complaining. Read the mood man.
    And part of support is offering suggestion that might work ... which is why some people reject therapy.  Sitting at your computer complaining will not help you ... well some of you it might help.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Meltdown99 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    PJ_Soul said:

    Meltdown99 said:
    Counselling NHS...

    https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/counselling/

    In 2 seconds I found out how you can access free therapy paid by your health service.

    If you are relying on your GP for your mental health ... you'll never get better.  GP's are just that, general practitioners...therapist special in helping you sort out your problems.



    You seem to be assuming that lastexitlondon is completely clueless and has never been to therapy, which is not the case.
    At some point you have to help yourself as well.  Coming to a bands website and constantly saying your not getting help/better is not going to change your situation.  Why keep going to your GP thinking you have dementia when he's saying you don't, yet he is convinced he has dementia.  If he doesn't trust what his dr is saying...why come here and complain. 
    You know, you've got a right to your opinion, but this is not the thread to be doing what you're doing. This is a support thread, and one that's obviously used at least partly as a form of catharsis, not one where it's appropriate for you to question why people are seeking support here and saying they're complaining. Read the mood man.
    And part of support is offering suggestion that might work ... which is why some people reject therapy.  Sitting at your computer complaining will not help you ... well some of you it might help.
    Cool story bro.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,904
    Meltdown99 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    PJ_Soul said:

    Meltdown99 said:
    Counselling NHS...

    https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/counselling/

    In 2 seconds I found out how you can access free therapy paid by your health service.

    If you are relying on your GP for your mental health ... you'll never get better.  GP's are just that, general practitioners...therapist special in helping you sort out your problems.



    You seem to be assuming that lastexitlondon is completely clueless and has never been to therapy, which is not the case.
    At some point you have to help yourself as well.  Coming to a bands website and constantly saying your not getting help/better is not going to change your situation.  Why keep going to your GP thinking you have dementia when he's saying you don't, yet he is convinced he has dementia.  If he doesn't trust what his dr is saying...why come here and complain. 
    You know, you've got a right to your opinion, but this is not the thread to be doing what you're doing. This is a support thread, and one that's obviously used at least partly as a form of catharsis, not one where it's appropriate for you to question why people are seeking support here and saying they're complaining. Read the mood man.
    And part of support is offering suggestion that might work ... which is why some people reject therapy.  Sitting at your computer complaining will not help you ... well some of you it might help.
    Why do you keep using the word complaining. Describing ones feelings is not complaining. What kind of anxiety was it you overcame?


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    lastexitlondon said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    PJ_Soul said:

    Meltdown99 said:
    Counselling NHS...

    https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/counselling/

    In 2 seconds I found out how you can access free therapy paid by your health service.

    If you are relying on your GP for your mental health ... you'll never get better.  GP's are just that, general practitioners...therapist special in helping you sort out your problems.



    You seem to be assuming that lastexitlondon is completely clueless and has never been to therapy, which is not the case.
    At some point you have to help yourself as well.  Coming to a bands website and constantly saying your not getting help/better is not going to change your situation.  Why keep going to your GP thinking you have dementia when he's saying you don't, yet he is convinced he has dementia.  If he doesn't trust what his dr is saying...why come here and complain. 
    You know, you've got a right to your opinion, but this is not the thread to be doing what you're doing. This is a support thread, and one that's obviously used at least partly as a form of catharsis, not one where it's appropriate for you to question why people are seeking support here and saying they're complaining. Read the mood man.
    And part of support is offering suggestion that might work ... which is why some people reject therapy.  Sitting at your computer complaining will not help you ... well some of you it might help.
    Why do you keep using the word complaining. Describing ones feelings is not complaining. What kind of anxiety was it you overcame?
    Extreme anxiety ... I was suffering debilitating panic attacks for over a year, as many as 2 a week, they never came when I was at home, they always happened when I was out somewhere...I could be at the dog park with my dog in -10 and out of no where it’d always start with profuse sweating followed by slurred speech, uneasiness in my balance, usually followed by severe nausea.

    I was trying all kinds of different pharmaceuticals.  None worked very well, the best was therapy ... a good therapist can get most back on track ... I know mine did.

    I’m not saying therapy works for everybody...but I trust therapy far more than pharmaceuticals.

    i know your in Britain and I have little understanding of your health care system...but I sought my therapist outside of our government system and just paid out of pocket.  Family drs. are not mental health drs...

    I was just offering different suggestions that were given to me and thought they could help others.  I now realize this thread isn’t about getting help.  I will this thread alone.


    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    rgambs said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    PJ_Soul said:

    Meltdown99 said:
    Counselling NHS...

    https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/counselling/

    In 2 seconds I found out how you can access free therapy paid by your health service.

    If you are relying on your GP for your mental health ... you'll never get better.  GP's are just that, general practitioners...therapist special in helping you sort out your problems.



    You seem to be assuming that lastexitlondon is completely clueless and has never been to therapy, which is not the case.
    At some point you have to help yourself as well.  Coming to a bands website and constantly saying your not getting help/better is not going to change your situation.  Why keep going to your GP thinking you have dementia when he's saying you don't, yet he is convinced he has dementia.  If he doesn't trust what his dr is saying...why come here and complain. 
    You know, you've got a right to your opinion, but this is not the thread to be doing what you're doing. This is a support thread, and one that's obviously used at least partly as a form of catharsis, not one where it's appropriate for you to question why people are seeking support here and saying they're complaining. Read the mood man.
    And part of support is offering suggestion that might work ... which is why some people reject therapy.  Sitting at your computer complaining will not help you ... well some of you it might help.
    Cool story bro.
    Dude I could give a rats ass about what you think...I would have thought you’d figure that out by now....
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    edited April 2018
    Meltdown99 said:
    rgambs said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    PJ_Soul said:

    Meltdown99 said:
    Counselling NHS...

    https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/counselling/

    In 2 seconds I found out how you can access free therapy paid by your health service.

    If you are relying on your GP for your mental health ... you'll never get better.  GP's are just that, general practitioners...therapist special in helping you sort out your problems.



    You seem to be assuming that lastexitlondon is completely clueless and has never been to therapy, which is not the case.
    At some point you have to help yourself as well.  Coming to a bands website and constantly saying your not getting help/better is not going to change your situation.  Why keep going to your GP thinking you have dementia when he's saying you don't, yet he is convinced he has dementia.  If he doesn't trust what his dr is saying...why come here and complain. 
    You know, you've got a right to your opinion, but this is not the thread to be doing what you're doing. This is a support thread, and one that's obviously used at least partly as a form of catharsis, not one where it's appropriate for you to question why people are seeking support here and saying they're complaining. Read the mood man.
    And part of support is offering suggestion that might work ... which is why some people reject therapy.  Sitting at your computer complaining will not help you ... well some of you it might help.
    Cool story bro.
    Dude I could give a rats ass about what you think...I would have thought you’d figure that out by now....
    Another ripper!  Keep 'em comin bro, we are all waiting on the edges of our seats!  Seriously, we all give many rat's asses about what you think so don't ever change.
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