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Bentleyspop said:vaggar99 said:JC29856 said:vaggar99 said:JC29856 said:vaggar99 said:JC29856 said:Smellyman said:I am shocked Trump would say racist things. Shocked.
Nobody could have seen this coming.
Ill give you an example: is this racist or not racist
"That PJ setlist was great but I wish they didnt have to play in that sh*thole Camden NJ, I dont feel safe in that sh*thole area"
When you use a derogatory term in relation to African Countries and Haiti and then immediately follow it up with your preference for people from Norway it is definitely RACIST
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JC29856 said:Halifax2TheMax said:JC29856 said:HughFreakingDillon said:JC29856 said:Smellyman said:I am shocked Trump would say racist things. Shocked.
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just to clarify in case those dont click the closed thread, this is copied to from there from me
Lets talk about the reference "sh*thole" or "sh*t hole" which for the youngsters present and in accordance with forum rules I will refer to hereafter simply as "shole".
There are varying reports about what context Trump used the expression shole, I haven't bothered to read too much into it but there is no doubt those words came from his mouth during a meeting about immigration. The WH hasn't denied it, Trump hasn't denied it and termed the language "harsh", those in the room have confirmed that Trump used the word/phrase "shole countries".
The term shole is undoubtedly a slur a derogatory remark, but is it a racial slur? Was Trump being racist when he referred to predominantly black and brown countries as shole countries. I think the context in which the reference was made is very important, obviously without context the term shole cannot be construed as racial. Lets be honest if we can, many many many people use the word shole. I tend to not use the word but I know it is frequently used by many under and in reference to many many things.
So lets talk about it, is it fair to claim that the use of the word sh*thole when referencing (if that is in fact the case here) predominantly black or brown areas a racial slur?
I don't know if Trump meant it as a racial slur but I tend to think not. Although I don't condone using that term in reference to anything let alone people or places even in private behind closed doors among confidants is appropriate for a POTUS. As I said I dont use the term but it is still derogatory/ugly and shouldn't be used by a president.
This isn't about if or if Trump is not racist, this is about the term and its reference. Any thoughts arise?
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JC29856 said:Bentleyspop said:vaggar99 said:JC29856 said:vaggar99 said:JC29856 said:vaggar99 said:JC29856 said:Smellyman said:I am shocked Trump would say racist things. Shocked.
Nobody could have seen this coming.
Ill give you an example: is this racist or not racist
"That PJ setlist was great but I wish they didnt have to play in that sh*thole Camden NJ, I dont feel safe in that sh*thole area"
When you use a derogatory term in relation to African Countries and Haiti and then immediately follow it up with your preference for people from Norway it is definitely RACIST0 -
JC29856 said:Halifax2TheMax said:JC29856 said:HughFreakingDillon said:JC29856 said:Smellyman said:I am shocked Trump would say racist things. Shocked.
Nobody could have seen this coming.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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These just since announcing his candidacy. Do some research on his life, his father was in the klan for crying out loud. The Team Trump Treason nut doesn’t fall far from the tree.
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-trump-racism-remarks-20180111-story.html
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Go Beavers said:JC29856 said:Bentleyspop said:vaggar99 said:JC29856 said:vaggar99 said:JC29856 said:vaggar99 said:JC29856 said:Smellyman said:I am shocked Trump would say racist things. Shocked.
Nobody could have seen this coming.
Ill give you an example: is this racist or not racist
"That PJ setlist was great but I wish they didnt have to play in that sh*thole Camden NJ, I dont feel safe in that sh*thole area"
When you use a derogatory term in relation to African Countries and Haiti and then immediately follow it up with your preference for people from Norway it is definitely RACIST
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JC29856 said:Go Beavers said:JC29856 said:Bentleyspop said:vaggar99 said:JC29856 said:vaggar99 said:JC29856 said:vaggar99 said:JC29856 said:Smellyman said:I am shocked Trump would say racist things. Shocked.
Nobody could have seen this coming.
Ill give you an example: is this racist or not racist
"That PJ setlist was great but I wish they didnt have to play in that sh*thole Camden NJ, I dont feel safe in that sh*thole area"
When you use a derogatory term in relation to African Countries and Haiti and then immediately follow it up with your preference for people from Norway it is definitely RACIST0 -
Don’t be distracted.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/368620-mueller-interview-fraught-with-peril-for-trump
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He PREACHES racial intolerance and incites ANTI American values. Check video of ANY rally he conducted.
He's an EMBARRASSMENT and should be IMPEACHED.Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 061320180 -
JimmyV said:Trump's comments yesterday are a textbook example of Trump voters getting exactly what they voted for.0
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On a rock and roll fan forum, someone using the term "shit hole", regardless of the context, is not likely to cause much offense. The President of the United States of America, using the phrase "shit hole" with obvious malice to describe places beleaguered by poverty and ravaged by hurricanes is unfitting for a person in that office. In fact, at the risk of sounding old fashioned, having the POTUS use the term "shit hole" in public under any circumstance is unfitting for the person in that office, period.
The man is an absolute embarrassment and disgrace to this country. The people who support him are equally disgraceful.
"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
brianlux said:On a rock and roll fan forum, someone using the term "shit hole", regardless of the context, is not likely to cause much offense. The President of the United States of America, using the phrase "shit hole" with obvious malice to describe places beleaguered by poverty and ravaged by hurricanes is unfitting for a person in that office. In fact, at the risk of sounding old fashioned, having the POTUS use the term "shit hole" in public under any circumstance is unfitting for the person in that office, period.
The man is an absolute embarrassment and disgrace to this country. The people who support him are equally disgraceful.
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stuckinline said:JimmyV said:Trump's comments yesterday are a textbook example of Trump voters getting exactly what they voted for.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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dignin said:"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/080
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stuckinline said:JimmyV said:Trump's comments yesterday are a textbook example of Trump voters getting exactly what they voted for.0
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JC29856 said:Smellyman said:I am shocked Trump would say racist things. Shocked.
Nobody could have seen this coming.0 -
JC29856 said:Go Beavers said:JC29856 said:Bentleyspop said:vaggar99 said:JC29856 said:vaggar99 said:JC29856 said:vaggar99 said:JC29856 said:Smellyman said:I am shocked Trump would say racist things. Shocked.
Nobody could have seen this coming.
Ill give you an example: is this racist or not racist
"That PJ setlist was great but I wish they didnt have to play in that sh*thole Camden NJ, I dont feel safe in that sh*thole area"
When you use a derogatory term in relation to African Countries and Haiti and then immediately follow it up with your preference for people from Norway it is definitely RACIST0
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