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 Im trying to get a sense of who thinks the term sh*thole is racist? Im not so sure it is. I believe he referred to a northeastern state as a sh*thole, was that also racist?Smellyman said:I am shocked Trump would say racist things. Shocked.
 Nobody could have seen this coming.
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 Telling that you even have to ask.JC29856 said:
 Im trying to get a sense of who thinks the term sh*thole is racist? Im not so sure it is. I believe he referred to a northeastern state as a sh*thole, was that also racist?Smellyman said:I am shocked Trump would say racist things. Shocked.
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 empathy. if you need further assistance with that, watch the Joy Reid clip from yesterday.JC29856 said:
 Im trying to get a sense of who thinks the term sh*thole is racist? Im not so sure it is. I believe he referred to a northeastern state as a sh*thole, was that also racist?Smellyman said:I am shocked Trump would say racist things. Shocked.
 Nobody could have seen this coming.0
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            His comment doesn't even have to be racist. It's brutal without any racial connotations at all.
 He's a f**king idiot. He proves it every day. Is there even any debate about this assertion of mine?
 The big question is: how does the US move forward from this utterly embarrassing situation where it has elected a bona fide moron as its leader? Not only forward in how it unceremoniously dumps this fool... but also as it treats the ugly boils that boldly reared themselves from a place which many had hoped was nearly extinguished?"My brain's a good brain!"0
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 I get it but Im trying to understand if using the term sh*thole to reference and undesirable place is being racist.vaggar99 said:
 empathy. if you need further assistance with that, watch the Joy Reid clip from yesterday.JC29856 said:
 Im trying to get a sense of who thinks the term sh*thole is racist? Im not so sure it is. I believe he referred to a northeastern state as a sh*thole, was that also racist?Smellyman said:I am shocked Trump would say racist things. Shocked.
 Nobody could have seen this coming.
 Ill give you an example: is this racist or not racist
 "That PJ setlist was great but I wish they didnt have to play in that sh*thole Camden NJ, I dont feel safe in that sh*thole area"
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            Saying that shit out loud in front of US Senators? STUPIDBristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 061320180
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 context. it was used in the context of a political discussion about immigration.JC29856 said:
 I get it but Im trying to understand if using the term sh*thole to reference and undesirable place is being racist.vaggar99 said:
 empathy. if you need further assistance with that, watch the Joy Reid clip from yesterday.JC29856 said:
 Im trying to get a sense of who thinks the term sh*thole is racist? Im not so sure it is. I believe he referred to a northeastern state as a sh*thole, was that also racist?Smellyman said:I am shocked Trump would say racist things. Shocked.
 Nobody could have seen this coming.
 Ill give you an example: is this racist or not racist
 "That PJ setlist was great but I wish they didnt have to play in that sh*thole Camden NJ, I dont feel safe in that sh*thole area"0
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 context: my example is used in the context of a discussion about concert venues in a predominantly black lower class neighborhood... racist not racist?vaggar99 said:
 context. it was used in the context of a political discussion about immigration.JC29856 said:
 I get it but Im trying to understand if using the term sh*thole to reference and undesirable place is being racist.vaggar99 said:
 empathy. if you need further assistance with that, watch the Joy Reid clip from yesterday.JC29856 said:
 Im trying to get a sense of who thinks the term sh*thole is racist? Im not so sure it is. I believe he referred to a northeastern state as a sh*thole, was that also racist?Smellyman said:I am shocked Trump would say racist things. Shocked.
 Nobody could have seen this coming.
 Ill give you an example: is this racist or not racist
 "That PJ setlist was great but I wish they didnt have to play in that sh*thole Camden NJ, I dont feel safe in that sh*thole area"
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            JC29856 said:
 I get it but Im trying to understand if using the term sh*thole to reference and undesirable place is being racist.vaggar99 said:
 empathy. if you need further assistance with that, watch the Joy Reid clip from yesterday.JC29856 said:
 Im trying to get a sense of who thinks the term sh*thole is racist? Im not so sure it is. I believe he referred to a northeastern state as a sh*thole, was that also racist?Smellyman said:I am shocked Trump would say racist things. Shocked.
 Nobody could have seen this coming.
 Ill give you an example: is this racist or not racist
 "That PJ setlist was great but I wish they didnt have to play in that sh*thole Camden NJ, I dont feel safe in that sh*thole area"
 Context would help some people understand.
 If the words are uttered from a known, long time racist in the midst of an immigration policy meeting...then 'yes'... the comment was racist (among many other things).
 If such a comment was made between two sparring buddies on a message board having fun with each other... then 'no'... the comment would not be racist.
 Does this help you understand? Do you get it now? Aren't you tiring of trying to defend the indefensible? Seriously... stick to the potato salad and detach from the pasty-white one."My brain's a good brain!"0
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 Im not trying to defend it, I actually said it was deroagatory and shouldnt have been said nor am do I care to discuss whether or not Trump is racist, Im simply asking if the term is used to reference an "undesirable" place is it racist. BTW - it wasnt until Trump decided to run did I ever hear anything about being racist but go ahead a pull out the 1978 rental application for his fathers apartment building, we have already been over that.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:JC29856 said:
 I get it but Im trying to understand if using the term sh*thole to reference and undesirable place is being racist.vaggar99 said:
 empathy. if you need further assistance with that, watch the Joy Reid clip from yesterday.JC29856 said:
 Im trying to get a sense of who thinks the term sh*thole is racist? Im not so sure it is. I believe he referred to a northeastern state as a sh*thole, was that also racist?Smellyman said:I am shocked Trump would say racist things. Shocked.
 Nobody could have seen this coming.
 Ill give you an example: is this racist or not racist
 "That PJ setlist was great but I wish they didnt have to play in that sh*thole Camden NJ, I dont feel safe in that sh*thole area"
 Context would help some people understand.
 If the words are uttered from a known, long time racist in the midst of an immigration policy meeting...then 'yes'... the comment was racist (among many other things).
 If such a comment was made between two sparring buddies on a message board having fun with each other... then 'no'... the comment would not be racist.
 Does this help you understand? Do you get it now? Aren't you tiring of trying to defend the indefensible? Seriously... stick to the potato salad and detach from the pasty-white one.
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 he's a fucking idiot and a terrible president, but that statement in and of itself is not inherently racist. but coming from a known racist, it can most likely be construed that way.JC29856 said:
 Im trying to get a sense of who thinks the term sh*thole is racist? Im not so sure it is. I believe he referred to a northeastern state as a sh*thole, was that also racist?Smellyman said:I am shocked Trump would say racist things. Shocked.
 Nobody could have seen this coming.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0
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 What we think is irrelevant in the bigger picture. Here’s my suggestion to you 3D, why don’t you go to Little Haiti in Miami or a predominately Salvadoran neighborhood on Long Island or LA and stop a random sampling of 200 people, ask them where they’re from originally or where they’re parents came from, and if they answer Haiti or El Salvador, tell them you heard it was a shithole there and ask if it’s true. When you’ve got 100 responses regarding each country, report back your findings.JC29856 said:
 I get it but Im trying to understand if using the term sh*thole to reference and undesirable place is being racist.vaggar99 said:
 empathy. if you need further assistance with that, watch the Joy Reid clip from yesterday.JC29856 said:
 Im trying to get a sense of who thinks the term sh*thole is racist? Im not so sure it is. I believe he referred to a northeastern state as a sh*thole, was that also racist?Smellyman said:I am shocked Trump would say racist things. Shocked.
 Nobody could have seen this coming.
 Ill give you an example: is this racist or not racist
 "That PJ setlist was great but I wish they didnt have to play in that sh*thole Camden NJ, I dont feel safe in that sh*thole area"09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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 i guess it depends on whether or not you were willing to allow those same people to move into the nicer neighborhood you live in. Or if instead you follow up by saying, I'd rather only have neighbors of Nordic descent.JC29856 said:
 context: my example is used in the context of a discussion about concert venues in a predominantly black lower class neighborhood... racist not racist?vaggar99 said:
 context. it was used in the context of a political discussion about immigration.JC29856 said:
 I get it but Im trying to understand if using the term sh*thole to reference and undesirable place is being racist.vaggar99 said:
 empathy. if you need further assistance with that, watch the Joy Reid clip from yesterday.JC29856 said:
 Im trying to get a sense of who thinks the term sh*thole is racist? Im not so sure it is. I believe he referred to a northeastern state as a sh*thole, was that also racist?Smellyman said:I am shocked Trump would say racist things. Shocked.
 Nobody could have seen this coming.
 Ill give you an example: is this racist or not racist
 "That PJ setlist was great but I wish they didnt have to play in that sh*thole Camden NJ, I dont feel safe in that sh*thole area"0
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 I agree with you except for the known racist part... Ive only known him to be racist since early 2016HughFreakingDillon said:
 he's a fucking idiot and a terrible president, but that statement in and of itself is not inherently racist. but coming from a known racist, it can most likely be construed that way.JC29856 said:
 Im trying to get a sense of who thinks the term sh*thole is racist? Im not so sure it is. I believe he referred to a northeastern state as a sh*thole, was that also racist?Smellyman said:I am shocked Trump would say racist things. Shocked.
 Nobody could have seen this coming.
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 Read up a little on Team Trump Treason’s public statements regarding the Central Park jogger rape case. Don’t have access to research materials and reference materials pre 2016, comrade?JC29856 said:
 I agree with you except for the known racist part... Ive only known him to be racist since early 2016HughFreakingDillon said:
 he's a fucking idiot and a terrible president, but that statement in and of itself is not inherently racist. but coming from a known racist, it can most likely be construed that way.JC29856 said:
 Im trying to get a sense of who thinks the term sh*thole is racist? Im not so sure it is. I believe he referred to a northeastern state as a sh*thole, was that also racist?Smellyman said:I am shocked Trump would say racist things. Shocked.
 Nobody could have seen this coming.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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            Defending him makes anyone who does it look stupid. Just sayin'.
 Carry on.Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 061320180
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 defending rapistsHalifax2TheMax said:
 Read up a little on Team Trump Treason’s public statements regarding the Central Park jogger rape case. Don’t have access to research materials and reference materials pre 2016, comrade?JC29856 said:
 I agree with you except for the known racist part... Ive only known him to be racist since early 2016HughFreakingDillon said:
 he's a fucking idiot and a terrible president, but that statement in and of itself is not inherently racist. but coming from a known racist, it can most likely be construed that way.JC29856 said:
 Im trying to get a sense of who thinks the term sh*thole is racist? Im not so sure it is. I believe he referred to a northeastern state as a sh*thole, was that also racist?Smellyman said:I am shocked Trump would say racist things. Shocked.
 Nobody could have seen this coming.
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 This exactlyvaggar99 said:
 i guess it depends on whether or not you were willing to allow those same people to move into the nicer neighborhood you live in. Or if instead you follow up by saying, I'd rather only have neighbors of Nordic descent.JC29856 said:
 context: my example is used in the context of a discussion about concert venues in a predominantly black lower class neighborhood... racist not racist?vaggar99 said:
 context. it was used in the context of a political discussion about immigration.JC29856 said:
 I get it but Im trying to understand if using the term sh*thole to reference and undesirable place is being racist.vaggar99 said:
 empathy. if you need further assistance with that, watch the Joy Reid clip from yesterday.JC29856 said:
 Im trying to get a sense of who thinks the term sh*thole is racist? Im not so sure it is. I believe he referred to a northeastern state as a sh*thole, was that also racist?Smellyman said:I am shocked Trump would say racist things. Shocked.
 Nobody could have seen this coming.
 Ill give you an example: is this racist or not racist
 "That PJ setlist was great but I wish they didnt have to play in that sh*thole Camden NJ, I dont feel safe in that sh*thole area"
 When you use a derogatory term in relation to African Countries and Haiti and then immediately follow it up with your preference for people from Norway it is definitely RACIST
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            Trump's comments yesterday are a textbook example of Trump voters getting exactly what they voted for.
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