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Halifax2TheMax said:BS44325 said:Halifax2TheMax said:“The idea that this decision will trigger anything is simply ridiculous.” The Professor 12/09/2017
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/22/world/asia/trump-jerusalem-malaysia-indonesia.html
Yup, the world’s 1.8 billion Muslims are giving up on the Palestinians, so afraid of Iran they are. Everybody’s just moving on, forgetting all about those oppressed, occupied Palestinians.“Yet, despite the dire predictions of major turmoil, and the best efforts of both Fatah and Hamas to mobilize the masses, so far there has been no large-scale, spontaneous outburst of violence in the wake of the president’s declaration.
The response has been more of a part-time simulation of an uprising, almost by appointment. A few thousand protesters have turned out at familiar friction points in the West Bank or along the Gaza border on the designated “Days of Rage” called for by the political factions. Other days, hardly anybody has shown up.
“It’s not that people don’t want to stand up for their rights,” said Samar Salah, 25, a Muslim student from a nearby village who had come to Bethlehem with her friends to see the Christmas decorations. “But there are never any results.”
Many Palestinians now view the confrontations with Israeli soldiers as pointless since they consider the Jerusalem declaration unlikely to be reversed. Those lucky enough to have decent jobs do not want to jeopardize their livelihoods. Others struggling to make ends meet seem to have more immediate concerns than throwing stones at Israeli soldiers.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/23/world/middleeast/bethlehem-israel-palestinians-west-bank.html
Sorry man but the only person triggered is you
http://www.israelhayom.com/2017/12/25/displeased-with-palestinians-arab-states-chart-new-jerusalem-policy/
The Arab nations are plotting a new course...Nothing triggered...just you.
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BS44325 said:Halifax2TheMax said:BS44325 said:Halifax2TheMax said:“The idea that this decision will trigger anything is simply ridiculous.” The Professor 12/09/2017
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/22/world/asia/trump-jerusalem-malaysia-indonesia.html
Yup, the world’s 1.8 billion Muslims are giving up on the Palestinians, so afraid of Iran they are. Everybody’s just moving on, forgetting all about those oppressed, occupied Palestinians.“Yet, despite the dire predictions of major turmoil, and the best efforts of both Fatah and Hamas to mobilize the masses, so far there has been no large-scale, spontaneous outburst of violence in the wake of the president’s declaration.
The response has been more of a part-time simulation of an uprising, almost by appointment. A few thousand protesters have turned out at familiar friction points in the West Bank or along the Gaza border on the designated “Days of Rage” called for by the political factions. Other days, hardly anybody has shown up.
“It’s not that people don’t want to stand up for their rights,” said Samar Salah, 25, a Muslim student from a nearby village who had come to Bethlehem with her friends to see the Christmas decorations. “But there are never any results.”
Many Palestinians now view the confrontations with Israeli soldiers as pointless since they consider the Jerusalem declaration unlikely to be reversed. Those lucky enough to have decent jobs do not want to jeopardize their livelihoods. Others struggling to make ends meet seem to have more immediate concerns than throwing stones at Israeli soldiers.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/23/world/middleeast/bethlehem-israel-palestinians-west-bank.html
Sorry man but the only person triggered is you
http://www.israelhayom.com/2017/12/25/displeased-with-palestinians-arab-states-chart-new-jerusalem-policy/
The Arab nations are plotting a jew course...Nothing triggered...just you.
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BS44325 said:Halifax2TheMax said:BS44325 said:Halifax2TheMax said:I guess the BDS movement is dead as well? Bibi picking up so much legitimacy lately? “Apartheid State.” Bring your sign(s) to Prague, Professor.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5210373/Lorde-cancels-Tel-Aviv-backlash-fans.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/12/22/jewish-and-evangelical-americans-are-divided-over-plan-to-move-the-u-s-embassy-to-jerusalem/
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Is Guatemala’s move important or are they just the Lorde of nations?
https://apnews.com/24f4250a24a0470f97df3da8eecb8410/Guatemala-says-it-is-moving-embassy-in-Israel-to-Jerusalem
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BS44325 said:Is Guatemala’s move important or are they just the Lorde of nations?
https://apnews.com/24f4250a24a0470f97df3da8eecb8410/Guatemala-says-it-is-moving-embassy-in-Israel-to-Jerusalem
And seeing that they have a history of right wing death squads, it’s not surprising. Oppressors unite.Post edited by Halifax2TheMax on09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Halifax2TheMax said:BS44325 said:Halifax2TheMax said:BS44325 said:Halifax2TheMax said:“The idea that this decision will trigger anything is simply ridiculous.” The Professor 12/09/2017
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/22/world/asia/trump-jerusalem-malaysia-indonesia.html
Yup, the world’s 1.8 billion Muslims are giving up on the Palestinians, so afraid of Iran they are. Everybody’s just moving on, forgetting all about those oppressed, occupied Palestinians.“Yet, despite the dire predictions of major turmoil, and the best efforts of both Fatah and Hamas to mobilize the masses, so far there has been no large-scale, spontaneous outburst of violence in the wake of the president’s declaration.
The response has been more of a part-time simulation of an uprising, almost by appointment. A few thousand protesters have turned out at familiar friction points in the West Bank or along the Gaza border on the designated “Days of Rage” called for by the political factions. Other days, hardly anybody has shown up.
“It’s not that people don’t want to stand up for their rights,” said Samar Salah, 25, a Muslim student from a nearby village who had come to Bethlehem with her friends to see the Christmas decorations. “But there are never any results.”
Many Palestinians now view the confrontations with Israeli soldiers as pointless since they consider the Jerusalem declaration unlikely to be reversed. Those lucky enough to have decent jobs do not want to jeopardize their livelihoods. Others struggling to make ends meet seem to have more immediate concerns than throwing stones at Israeli soldiers.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/23/world/middleeast/bethlehem-israel-palestinians-west-bank.html
Sorry man but the only person triggered is you
http://www.israelhayom.com/2017/12/25/displeased-with-palestinians-arab-states-chart-new-jerusalem-policy/
The Arab nations are plotting a jew course...Nothing triggered...just you.
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BS44325 said:Halifax2TheMax said:BS44325 said:Halifax2TheMax said:BS44325 said:Halifax2TheMax said:“The idea that this decision will trigger anything is simply ridiculous.” The Professor 12/09/2017
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/22/world/asia/trump-jerusalem-malaysia-indonesia.html
Yup, the world’s 1.8 billion Muslims are giving up on the Palestinians, so afraid of Iran they are. Everybody’s just moving on, forgetting all about those oppressed, occupied Palestinians.“Yet, despite the dire predictions of major turmoil, and the best efforts of both Fatah and Hamas to mobilize the masses, so far there has been no large-scale, spontaneous outburst of violence in the wake of the president’s declaration.
The response has been more of a part-time simulation of an uprising, almost by appointment. A few thousand protesters have turned out at familiar friction points in the West Bank or along the Gaza border on the designated “Days of Rage” called for by the political factions. Other days, hardly anybody has shown up.
“It’s not that people don’t want to stand up for their rights,” said Samar Salah, 25, a Muslim student from a nearby village who had come to Bethlehem with her friends to see the Christmas decorations. “But there are never any results.”
Many Palestinians now view the confrontations with Israeli soldiers as pointless since they consider the Jerusalem declaration unlikely to be reversed. Those lucky enough to have decent jobs do not want to jeopardize their livelihoods. Others struggling to make ends meet seem to have more immediate concerns than throwing stones at Israeli soldiers.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/23/world/middleeast/bethlehem-israel-palestinians-west-bank.html
Sorry man but the only person triggered is you
http://www.israelhayom.com/2017/12/25/displeased-with-palestinians-arab-states-chart-new-jerusalem-policy/
The Arab nations are plotting a jew course...Nothing triggered...just you.
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Halifax2TheMax said:BS44325 said:Halifax2TheMax said:BS44325 said:Halifax2TheMax said:BS44325 said:Halifax2TheMax said:“The idea that this decision will trigger anything is simply ridiculous.” The Professor 12/09/2017
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/22/world/asia/trump-jerusalem-malaysia-indonesia.html
Yup, the world’s 1.8 billion Muslims are giving up on the Palestinians, so afraid of Iran they are. Everybody’s just moving on, forgetting all about those oppressed, occupied Palestinians.“Yet, despite the dire predictions of major turmoil, and the best efforts of both Fatah and Hamas to mobilize the masses, so far there has been no large-scale, spontaneous outburst of violence in the wake of the president’s declaration.
The response has been more of a part-time simulation of an uprising, almost by appointment. A few thousand protesters have turned out at familiar friction points in the West Bank or along the Gaza border on the designated “Days of Rage” called for by the political factions. Other days, hardly anybody has shown up.
“It’s not that people don’t want to stand up for their rights,” said Samar Salah, 25, a Muslim student from a nearby village who had come to Bethlehem with her friends to see the Christmas decorations. “But there are never any results.”
Many Palestinians now view the confrontations with Israeli soldiers as pointless since they consider the Jerusalem declaration unlikely to be reversed. Those lucky enough to have decent jobs do not want to jeopardize their livelihoods. Others struggling to make ends meet seem to have more immediate concerns than throwing stones at Israeli soldiers.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/23/world/middleeast/bethlehem-israel-palestinians-west-bank.html
Sorry man but the only person triggered is you
http://www.israelhayom.com/2017/12/25/displeased-with-palestinians-arab-states-chart-new-jerusalem-policy/
The Arab nations are plotting a jew course...Nothing triggered...just you.
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BS44325 said:Halifax2TheMax said:BS44325 said:Halifax2TheMax said:BS44325 said:Halifax2TheMax said:“The idea that this decision will trigger anything is simply ridiculous.” The Professor 12/09/2017
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/22/world/asia/trump-jerusalem-malaysia-indonesia.html
Yup, the world’s 1.8 billion Muslims are giving up on the Palestinians, so afraid of Iran they are. Everybody’s just moving on, forgetting all about those oppressed, occupied Palestinians.“Yet, despite the dire predictions of major turmoil, and the best efforts of both Fatah and Hamas to mobilize the masses, so far there has been no large-scale, spontaneous outburst of violence in the wake of the president’s declaration.
The response has been more of a part-time simulation of an uprising, almost by appointment. A few thousand protesters have turned out at familiar friction points in the West Bank or along the Gaza border on the designated “Days of Rage” called for by the political factions. Other days, hardly anybody has shown up.
“It’s not that people don’t want to stand up for their rights,” said Samar Salah, 25, a Muslim student from a nearby village who had come to Bethlehem with her friends to see the Christmas decorations. “But there are never any results.”
Many Palestinians now view the confrontations with Israeli soldiers as pointless since they consider the Jerusalem declaration unlikely to be reversed. Those lucky enough to have decent jobs do not want to jeopardize their livelihoods. Others struggling to make ends meet seem to have more immediate concerns than throwing stones at Israeli soldiers.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/23/world/middleeast/bethlehem-israel-palestinians-west-bank.html
Sorry man but the only person triggered is you
http://www.israelhayom.com/2017/12/25/displeased-with-palestinians-arab-states-chart-new-jerusalem-policy/
The Arab nations are plotting a jew course...Nothing triggered...just you.
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Halifax2TheMax said:BS44325 said:Halifax2TheMax said:BS44325 said:Halifax2TheMax said:BS44325 said:Halifax2TheMax said:“The idea that this decision will trigger anything is simply ridiculous.” The Professor 12/09/2017
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/22/world/asia/trump-jerusalem-malaysia-indonesia.html
Yup, the world’s 1.8 billion Muslims are giving up on the Palestinians, so afraid of Iran they are. Everybody’s just moving on, forgetting all about those oppressed, occupied Palestinians.“Yet, despite the dire predictions of major turmoil, and the best efforts of both Fatah and Hamas to mobilize the masses, so far there has been no large-scale, spontaneous outburst of violence in the wake of the president’s declaration.
The response has been more of a part-time simulation of an uprising, almost by appointment. A few thousand protesters have turned out at familiar friction points in the West Bank or along the Gaza border on the designated “Days of Rage” called for by the political factions. Other days, hardly anybody has shown up.
“It’s not that people don’t want to stand up for their rights,” said Samar Salah, 25, a Muslim student from a nearby village who had come to Bethlehem with her friends to see the Christmas decorations. “But there are never any results.”
Many Palestinians now view the confrontations with Israeli soldiers as pointless since they consider the Jerusalem declaration unlikely to be reversed. Those lucky enough to have decent jobs do not want to jeopardize their livelihoods. Others struggling to make ends meet seem to have more immediate concerns than throwing stones at Israeli soldiers.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/23/world/middleeast/bethlehem-israel-palestinians-west-bank.html
Sorry man but the only person triggered is you
http://www.israelhayom.com/2017/12/25/displeased-with-palestinians-arab-states-chart-new-jerusalem-policy/
The Arab nations are plotting a jew course...Nothing triggered...just you.
That's a crappy way to debate, but hey, at least you'll end up going to bed feeling that you 'won', and isn't that what this place is all about?
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benjs said:Halifax2TheMax said:BS44325 said:Halifax2TheMax said:BS44325 said:Halifax2TheMax said:BS44325 said:Halifax2TheMax said:“The idea that this decision will trigger anything is simply ridiculous.” The Professor 12/09/2017
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/22/world/asia/trump-jerusalem-malaysia-indonesia.html
Yup, the world’s 1.8 billion Muslims are giving up on the Palestinians, so afraid of Iran they are. Everybody’s just moving on, forgetting all about those oppressed, occupied Palestinians.“Yet, despite the dire predictions of major turmoil, and the best efforts of both Fatah and Hamas to mobilize the masses, so far there has been no large-scale, spontaneous outburst of violence in the wake of the president’s declaration.
The response has been more of a part-time simulation of an uprising, almost by appointment. A few thousand protesters have turned out at familiar friction points in the West Bank or along the Gaza border on the designated “Days of Rage” called for by the political factions. Other days, hardly anybody has shown up.
“It’s not that people don’t want to stand up for their rights,” said Samar Salah, 25, a Muslim student from a nearby village who had come to Bethlehem with her friends to see the Christmas decorations. “But there are never any results.”
Many Palestinians now view the confrontations with Israeli soldiers as pointless since they consider the Jerusalem declaration unlikely to be reversed. Those lucky enough to have decent jobs do not want to jeopardize their livelihoods. Others struggling to make ends meet seem to have more immediate concerns than throwing stones at Israeli soldiers.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/23/world/middleeast/bethlehem-israel-palestinians-west-bank.html
Sorry man but the only person triggered is you
http://www.israelhayom.com/2017/12/25/displeased-with-palestinians-arab-states-chart-new-jerusalem-policy/
The Arab nations are plotting a jew course...Nothing triggered...just you.
That's a crappy way to debate, but hey, at least you'll end up going to bed feeling that you 'won', and isn't that what this place is all about?
As for “facts,” BS’s facts that the Middle East has been radically changed by the US decision to move it’s embassy to Jerusalem is BS. The U.N. vote condemning that is evidence or “facts.” Guatemala following the US’ announcement with their own is hardly a sea change in the long held view that Jerusalem should be a capital in a two state solution negotiated between the parties and not unilaterally decided. BS’ claim that the Arab world is going “Jew” because of Iran is still BS if only because the enemy of my enemy is my friend. In case you haven’t been paying attention, BS has made a lot of BS claims as it relates to Israel, starting with his claim that the British Mandate granted all of Palestine to Israel in 1948. When you support an apartheid regime, you’ll say anything to gain legitimacy and sound like you know what you’re talking about. Like Trump’s election was brilliant and will result in a wave of trump supporters sweeping into the house and senate cementing his hold on government and guareenteeing reelection or that Obama had his wires tapped. Relevance? Because BS posts it, doesn’t make it true. Meanwhile, I’ll wait for Pearl Jam to play Israel, the apartheid state.
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Benjs ain’t new to this place and if I’m not mistaken I think he disagrees with me on most things “Israel”. The difference between he and you on this topic (most topics) however is that he actually reads what I write. Your long diatribe above quite clearly demonstrates that you don’t. Let’s start with your initial point as I do NOT believe “that the Middle East has been radically changed by the US decision to move it’s embassy to Jerusalem”. The only thing “radical” about that decision is that it destroyed the illusion that moving the embassy ever mattered. It didn’t matter...nobody reacted other then Erdogan...who other then Mike Flynn nobody cares about. Sure you got one more in a long list of meaningless U.N. resolutions out of it but who cares? Throw that one on the pile of anti-Semitic resolutions that come and go year after year without ever changing the facts on the ground. What changes facts on the ground are actions and the actions are leaning in Israel’s favour. The Arab world is moving in a “new” direction with respect to Israel because of Iran and this cannot be disputed. They are not happy with Iranian expansionism that you supported through Obama. They are not happy with Iran becoming a nuclear power which you have endorsed on previous threads. They now see Israel as an ally and will not let US decisions on embassies sidetrack their need for security. Add to that the response of other nations and it is quite obvious which way the wind is blowing. You may celebrate a 21 year old female from little New Zealand being bullied to stay out of Israel while downplaying a country larger then New Zealand’s decison to relocate it’s embassy but certainly Guatemala’s move is a far more significant event. While it is just the early days of this new normal as of today ten additional countries are planning on relocating their embassies and as other nations come to realize that there will be no blow back then they will move as well. Secondly your precious BDS is failing where it counts. Norway just joined Denmark and many other national, state, and local governments in legislating against doing business with BDS supporting groups. They recognize the movement for what it is...an anti-speech group that out of anti-semitism alone focuses it’s energy on one country over all other human rights abusers. A group of fascists that threatens easy targets on campuses and harasses young girls who wish to sing to their fans and then celebrate this meaningless silencing of speech as a success. The world is woke to your movement and is moving on.
http://www.euronews.com/2017/12/26/view-saudi-israel-alliance-will-be-driving-force-of-new-middle-east
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/637691/phl-considering-moving-embassy-to-jerusalem-sources-say-israel-in-touch-with-10-countries/story/
https://www.timesofisrael.com/norway-said-set-to-cut-funding-for-pro-bds-palestinian-ngos/
http://m.jpost.com/BDS-THREAT/New-Jersey-bans-business-with-Danish-bank-for-Israel-boycott-519925
Also...as I have said one thousand times...Trump will be judged on results. There is no guarantee of his re-election as he will have to thread the same needle a second time. That sentence seems so simple and yet you continue to get it wrong. Benjs shouldn’t have to help you.0 -
BS44325 said:Benjs ain’t new to this place and if I’m not mistaken I think he disagrees with me on most things “Israel”. The difference between he and you on this topic (most topics) however is that he actually reads what I write. Your long diatribe above quite clearly demonstrates that you don’t. Let’s start with your initial point as I do NOT believe “that the Middle East has been radically changed by the US decision to move it’s embassy to Jerusalem”. The only thing “radical” about that decision is that it destroyed the illusion that moving the embassy ever mattered. It didn’t matter...nobody reacted other then Erdogan...who other then Mike Flynn nobody cares about. Sure you got one more in a long list of meaningless U.N. resolutions out of it but who cares? Throw that one on the pile of anti-Semitic resolutions that come and go year after year without ever changing the facts on the ground. What changes facts on the ground are actions and the actions are leaning in Israel’s favour. The Arab world is moving in a “new” direction with respect to Israel because of Iran and this cannot be disputed. They are not happy with Iranian expansionism that you supported through Obama. They are not happy with Iran becoming a nuclear power which you have endorsed on previous threads. They now see Israel as an ally and will not let US decisions on embassies sidetrack their need for security. Add to that the response of other nations and it is quite obvious which way the wind is blowing. You may celebrate a 21 year old female from little New Zealand being bullied to stay out of Israel while downplaying a country larger then New Zealand’s decison to relocate it’s embassy but certainly Guatemala’s move is a far more significant event. While it is just the early days of this new normal as of today ten additional countries are planning on relocating their embassies and as other nations come to realize that there will be no blow back then they will move as well. Secondly your precious BDS is failing where it counts. Norway just joined Denmark and many other national, state, and local governments in legislating against doing business with BDS supporting groups. They recognize the movement for what it is...an anti-speech group that out of anti-semitism alone focuses it’s energy on one country over all other human rights abusers. A group of fascists that threatens easy targets on campuses and harasses young girls who wish to sing to their fans and then celebrate this meaningless silencing of speech as a success. The world is woke to your movement and is moving on.
http://www.euronews.com/2017/12/26/view-saudi-israel-alliance-will-be-driving-force-of-new-middle-east
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/637691/phl-considering-moving-embassy-to-jerusalem-sources-say-israel-in-touch-with-10-countries/story/
https://www.timesofisrael.com/norway-said-set-to-cut-funding-for-pro-bds-palestinian-ngos/
http://m.jpost.com/BDS-THREAT/New-Jersey-bans-business-with-Danish-bank-for-Israel-boycott-519925
Also...as I have said one thousand times...Trump will be judged on results. There is no guarantee of his re-election as he will have to thread the same needle a second time. That sentence seems so simple and yet you continue to get it wrong. Benjs shouldn’t have to help you.
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When did Iran become a nuclear power, Professor? See? More BS from BS. Bibi stated within a year or less of the Obama nuclear deal Iran would have nuclear weapons and Israel would have to act. Why haven’t they acted? And your comments regarding Trump are a sea change from your presentation just after the election. Spin, spin, spin.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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And I thought the Arab world was moving in a “Jew” direction as posited a few posts above, by you Professor? More spin? “Jew” direction versus “new” direction. Which is it?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Here’s a “fact.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/10/trump-jerusalem-arab-league-dangerous-violation-international-law
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