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  • Dr. Delight
    Dr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    PJ_Soul said:
    BTW, re the groove distortion on the 1st US reissue of Mellon Collie .... I got that version I believe, and I haven't noticed a single thing wrong with it, so it's either not as common as some would have you think, or it's too minor to worry about.
    Agreed. I have this one too. The issue is very very minor and brief. Nothing to skip over buying this release especially if it is discounted because of this problem
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,497
    edited September 2017
    Maybe your tables don't pick it up as much, on mine, Zero was unlistenable after 30 seconds. 2 of the other sides of the "first disc" were awful too - Porcelina I think was one). It most certainly was widespread. if your table doesn't pick up on it, thats awesome. 

    certainly don't skip the release, but very much try to get the one with more deadwax. (The bad one has next to no deadwax on Side 1. You'll know upon looking at it)

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  • DC29940
    DC29940 Tucson, AZ Posts: 706
    Tim Simmons said:
    Maybe your tables don't pick it up as much, on mine, Zero was unlistenable after 30 seconds. 2 of the other sides of the "first disc" were awful too - Porcelina I think was one). It most certainly was widespread. if your table doesn't pick up on it, thats awesome. 

    certainly don't skip the release, but very much try to get the one with more deadwax. (The bad one has next to no deadwax on Side 1. You'll know upon looking at it)

    Well based on this the one I got from Best Buy is the newer 2014 pressing. Plenty of dead wax on side A.
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,497
    I wish I had my first reissue pressing to take a pic. It was literally a quarter of an inch of deadwax between the label and the end of zero. Maybe some of you have a table that's a bit more forgiving of the IGD, but I tried it on all 3 of my tables and it was ass on all of them. 
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,497
    edited September 2017
    hers the SP thread at VC, where people start talking about the IGD issue. I think it was pretty widespread. 

    http://boards.vinylcollective.com/topic/66774-smashing-pumpkins/?page=45
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  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,889
    Weird I don't recall having any issues with my melon collie reissue (I use a Denon DP-300f turntable with an ortofon red cartidge).

    Records I bought over the past week:

    Prophets of Rage (I quite like it, but it also makes me wish it was a rage album)
    Foo Fighters - Concrete and Gold
    Guardians of The Galaxy - Awesome Mix Vol. 2

    On the way (hopefully):

    Twin Peaks - Limited Event Series - Colour Vinyl
    Prophets of Rage - EP (not sure how  I missed it when it came out)
    Let's Play Two



  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,652
    edited September 2017
    Tim Simmons said:
    Maybe your tables don't pick it up as much, on mine, Zero was unlistenable after 30 seconds. 2 of the other sides of the "first disc" were awful too - Porcelina I think was one). It most certainly was widespread. if your table doesn't pick up on it, thats awesome. 

    certainly don't skip the release, but very much try to get the one with more deadwax. (The bad one has next to no deadwax on Side 1. You'll know upon looking at it)

    Bummer. I wonder how many had issues? I know for sure that I don't have a single skip on mine. I remember someone mentioning that the wider spread problem may have just been some kind of brief warble during one song (which I also don't have on mine). I hadn't heard about bigger problems like the ones you're talking about, Tim.
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,497
    Yeah, it was weird. And Virgin didn't even address it. But they had it recut, so it must have been pretty prevalent to address it covertly with a new cut. 

    Anyway I'm only harping on it because it was handled so poorly by the label and to confuse matters the EU pressing from the time was fine. So there are 2 pressings out there that sound great and one that is hit or miss (lots of misses based on VC and Hoffman threads) for many out there. I think its important that people get all the info. 



  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,159
    Does that album sound better on vinyl than cd?

    I like some of the music but the production really turned me off. 
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,652
    edited September 2017
    dudeman said:
    Does that album sound better on vinyl than cd?

    I like some of the music but the production really turned me off. 
    I haven't heard the CD is years.... but I know that it sounds awesome on my turntable. However, the production of the CD never turned me off in the first place (I remember carrying it around in my backpack with me for months in university... along with my discman :) ), so maybe we just have different expectations from this album, I don't know.
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  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,159
    Perhaps. I never listened to the album much. I played it a couple weeks ago and the immediate listening fatigue reminded me why it's not in my regular rotation. 

    I might try to find a vinyl copy to determine if it's the format or the production. 
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,652
    dudeman said:
    Perhaps. I never listened to the album much. I played it a couple weeks ago and the immediate listening fatigue reminded me why it's not in my regular rotation. 

    I might try to find a vinyl copy to determine if it's the format or the production. 
    Well, there you go. I consider this album to be one of the 10 best albums of the 90s and one of the 5 best double-albums of all time. ;) FWIW, the album has good sound, and I definitely never thought, Oh, this doesn't sound like I remember, nor that it doesn't sound good because of production. How much of that is fan bias? I have no idea, lol.
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  • 2-feign-reluctance
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    Pearl Jam - Let's Play Two
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,497
    dudeman said:
    Does that album sound better on vinyl than cd?

    I like some of the music but the production really turned me off. 
    They definitely played with the sonics a bit on the reissue. Its a bit louder. But not overly awful. The original pressing sounds a bit crisper and gentler. I liked the OP better than the original CD. I think the repress is probably as good as the CD despite being a touch louder.

  • lolobugg
    lolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    Tim Simmons said:
    dudeman said:
    Does that album sound better on vinyl than cd?

    I like some of the music but the production really turned me off. 
    They definitely played with the sonics a bit on the reissue. Its a bit louder. But not overly awful. The original pressing sounds a bit crisper and gentler. I liked the OP better than the original CD. I think the repress is probably as good as the CD despite being a touch louder.


    The 1996 OG I have is the best pressing. The CD mastering on the original CD was horrible.

    The 2012 repress is also good both on CD and Vinyl. Didn't have any issues with the US pressing.

    I prefer the 1996 pressing because the track listing is totally different. as many time as I listened to the CD, it is cool to hear it in a different order.

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  • Yarden
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    Hope Sandoval & The Warm Inventions - Son of a Lady EP



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  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,159
    Good info on the Mellon Collie vinyl pressings. Thanks everyone! 
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,655
    Yarden said:
    Hope Sandoval & The Warm Inventions - Son of a Lady EP



    Cool! Is Dave Roback with her on that one?
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  • FR181798
    FR181798 Posts: 2,166
    I've got the new WPC - Billy Corgan LP on preorder so gave Monuments a spin today, it's really grown on me, a pretty decent Pumpkins LP, could be my favourite since Mellon Collie.

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