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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    And Antifa does not have my respect with some of their tactics.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Not that it mitigates the racists violeance, but who thinks antifa went looking for a fight? I do
    Doesn't someone on here know Woody Kaine? Lets get that person to ask Woody his thoughts.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,301

    Haven't read all of the posts, but my thought is that even if Trump says the right things about denouncing racism and white nationalists, it takes him way too long to do the right thing. 

    It is odd because you want to say he has terrible instincts (which he does), but at the same time his instincts helped win him the presidency.  Sad.


  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited August 2017
    Tiki said:
    Fascism is pretty lame.  Anti fascism is not lame.  It takes courage.
    Totally agree...too bad Antifa has become the exact thing that their namesake suggests they are against.  Hardly different than any other anti-free speech groups.  Fuck the KKK, Nazis and fuck Antifa.  I'm good with putting them all on their own little island and letting them club each other out of existence.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,020
    PJ_Soul said:
    JC29856 said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Not sure if this belongs here or the Idiot Thread.....

    Trump: I'm 'seriously considering' pardoning Joe Arpaio
    Article II Section 2
    Pretty ballsy for Trump to discuss this yesterday with the Charlottesville chitstorm
    Ballsy is one word for it I suppose, lol. I'd say it is pretty assholey.
    He calls that racist fuck who has no respect for the the law or human rights a "great American patriot". This is definitely not surprising, and definitely reinforces what we already know about Trump and friends.
    "when someone shows you who they are,  believe them; the first time" - Maya Angelou..
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    PJPOWER said:
    Tiki said:
    Fascism is pretty lame.  Anti fascism is not lame.  It takes courage.
    Totally agree...too bad Antifa has become the exact thing that their namesake suggests they are against.  Hardly different than any other anti-free speech groups.  Fuck the KKK, Nazis and fuck Antifa.  I'm good with putting them all on their own little island and letting them club each other out of existence.
    I reck'in that's exactly what law enforcement did, let them club each other, now someone is dead 20 injured and a 20 yr old is likely jailed for life.
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
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    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^
    I think instead of making an immediate off the hip speech right after the tragic event happened would have been lost on so many.  No one cares what a politician says during an extreme time of hate/mourning/pain.  After a few days for everything to sink in and emotions a little ( I say a little) less heated the people who the message was intended for were in a better position to receive it.  You can't react to everything at every second and expect your message to be heard.  It's like people that constantly post in one thread.  Eventually people don't read them. So to answer no I don't think it was damage control.

    that's a great point!
    how is that a great point? his comments 2 days apart contradict each other. the first was obviously from his puny brain, the second was probably written by Ivanka. 

    I don't ever recall a sitting president saying nothing about a major event to "let the events sink in". 
    I think a politician talking a day or two after the event is a ok.  I mean fdr waited until december 8th.
    fair. but what about the "both sides" comment?
    Did you not see the video footage of the protesters attacking the supremacists?

    I was wondering where the police presence was.
    It seems like the cops didn't do very good job on this one. 

    I think they did pretty good....did you see the pictures of the armed supremacists?  Those guys were in body armor and camo.

    Given the unrest I am surprised that there weren't shootings.  I would think the police deserve credit for that.
    I saw a lot of pictures of armed people on both sides...
    Oh my god.

    Come on man. You're really coming across as an apologist. Even if it was true... one side is armed to perpetuate hate, while one side would have been armed to stop hatred (just like in WWII when 'real' patriots took up arms against nazis).

    These boobs are confused.
    So you consider Antifa the "real patriots"?  I guess I understand where you are coming from now...All that the violent protesters from any front cause is an escalation in violence.  
    When I made my comment, the 'real patriots' I spoke to were those that left the comfort of North America to fight in Europe against Nazis... not these chubby rednecks that have become Nazis calling themselves patriots in the process.
    Totally agree, my grandfather was one of these true Patriots.  Anyone from that generation would be pretty appalled by communism and socialism alike.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    mrussel1 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    JC29856 said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Not sure if this belongs here or the Idiot Thread.....

    Trump: I'm 'seriously considering' pardoning Joe Arpaio
    Article II Section 2
    Pretty ballsy for Trump to discuss this yesterday with the Charlottesville chitstorm
    Ballsy is one word for it I suppose, lol. I'd say it is pretty assholey.
    He calls that racist fuck who has no respect for the the law or human rights a "great American patriot". This is definitely not surprising, and definitely reinforces what we already know about Trump and friends.
    "when someone shows you who they are,  believe them; the first time" - Maya Angelou..
    technically the first time was 2000 with matt lauer, but I get what your saying
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,020
    JC29856 said:
    josevolution said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Tiki said:
    "on many sides, on many sides."
    You didn't see this as "any violence is bad"?
    Ok so I'll ask would it bother you if these groups decided to March in your town in the name of bigotry would you oppose them or just stand idle ... before you answer I'll tell you what I would do exactly what Heather did stand there and show my support for anti racism ....yes all violence is horrific! 
    I doubt Heather understood the full gravity of the situation there, I don't think anyone did.

    What's beyond repulsive is when her death is used to advance ideology.


    That's strange... I would have thought a normal person would be more bothered by killing someone because of the twisted ideology. 
  • cottagesteeze
    cottagesteeze St. Paul, MN Posts: 218
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^
    I think instead of making an immediate off the hip speech right after the tragic event happened would have been lost on so many.  No one cares what a politician says during an extreme time of hate/mourning/pain.  After a few days for everything to sink in and emotions a little ( I say a little) less heated the people who the message was intended for were in a better position to receive it.  You can't react to everything at every second and expect your message to be heard.  It's like people that constantly post in one thread.  Eventually people don't read them. So to answer no I don't think it was damage control.

    Really? Why are we all talking about what DJT did/didn't say then? Keep on cheerleading for the Don!
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,020
    PJPOWER said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Go Beavers said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^
    I think instead of making an immediate off the hip speech right after the tragic event happened would have been lost on so many.  No one cares what a politician says during an extreme time of hate/mourning/pain.  After a few days for everything to sink in and emotions a little ( I say a little) less heated the people who the message was intended for were in a better position to receive it.  You can't react to everything at every second and expect your message to be heard.  It's like people that constantly post in one thread.  Eventually people don't read them. So to answer no I don't think it was damage control.

    that's a great point!
    how is that a great point? his comments 2 days apart contradict each other. the first was obviously from his puny brain, the second was probably written by Ivanka. 

    I don't ever recall a sitting president saying nothing about a major event to "let the events sink in". 
    I think a politician talking a day or two after the event is a ok.  I mean fdr waited until december 8th.
    fair. but what about the "both sides" comment?
    Did you not see the video footage of the protesters attacking the supremacists?

    I was wondering where the police presence was.
    It seems like the cops didn't do very good job on this one. 

    I think they did pretty good....did you see the pictures of the armed supremacists?  Those guys were in body armor and camo.

    Given the unrest I am surprised that there weren't shootings.  I would think the police deserve credit for that.
    I saw a lot of pictures of armed people on both sides...
    Oh my god.

    Come on man. You're really coming across as an apologist. Even if it was true... one side is armed to perpetuate hate, while one side would have been armed to stop hatred (just like in WWII when 'real' patriots took up arms against nazis).

    These boobs are confused.
    So you consider Antifa the "real patriots"?  I guess I understand where you are coming from now...All that the violent protesters from any front cause is an escalation in violence.  
    When I made my comment, the 'real patriots' I spoke to were those that left the comfort of North America to fight in Europe against Nazis... not these chubby rednecks that have become Nazis calling themselves patriots in the process.
    Totally agree, my grandfather was one of these true Patriots.  Anyone from that generation would be pretty appalled by communism and socialism alike.
    AND DON'T TOUCH MY MEDICARE!
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,220
    tempo_n_groove said:
    josevolution said:
    It took well over 24 hrs for Orange bafoon to denounce all the hate groups involved in weekends marches ! Please tell me what was more important in his vacation plans then to denounce the murder of an American citizen by a racist group ...
    Just throwing this out there.  When an incident happened here when Obama was president people crucified him for not calling it "radical Islam" when a Muslim carried out an act.  

    Where in Europe when an incident happened they labeled it a "radical Islam attack"

    Not that this was a Muslim/Islam matter but I can see it the same way as Trump not calling it out for what it was right away.
    Hey you can see any way you choose too I'm done with giving this bafoon a pass on anything like I already stated he has already shown me his true colors and they are not a rainbow ...fuck him ! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    mrussel1 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Go Beavers said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^
    I think instead of making an immediate off the hip speech right after the tragic event happened would have been lost on so many.  No one cares what a politician says during an extreme time of hate/mourning/pain.  After a few days for everything to sink in and emotions a little ( I say a little) less heated the people who the message was intended for were in a better position to receive it.  You can't react to everything at every second and expect your message to be heard.  It's like people that constantly post in one thread.  Eventually people don't read them. So to answer no I don't think it was damage control.

    that's a great point!
    how is that a great point? his comments 2 days apart contradict each other. the first was obviously from his puny brain, the second was probably written by Ivanka. 

    I don't ever recall a sitting president saying nothing about a major event to "let the events sink in". 
    I think a politician talking a day or two after the event is a ok.  I mean fdr waited until december 8th.
    fair. but what about the "both sides" comment?
    Did you not see the video footage of the protesters attacking the supremacists?

    I was wondering where the police presence was.
    It seems like the cops didn't do very good job on this one. 

    I think they did pretty good....did you see the pictures of the armed supremacists?  Those guys were in body armor and camo.

    Given the unrest I am surprised that there weren't shootings.  I would think the police deserve credit for that.
    I saw a lot of pictures of armed people on both sides...
    Oh my god.

    Come on man. You're really coming across as an apologist. Even if it was true... one side is armed to perpetuate hate, while one side would have been armed to stop hatred (just like in WWII when 'real' patriots took up arms against nazis).

    These boobs are confused.
    So you consider Antifa the "real patriots"?  I guess I understand where you are coming from now...All that the violent protesters from any front cause is an escalation in violence.  
    When I made my comment, the 'real patriots' I spoke to were those that left the comfort of North America to fight in Europe against Nazis... not these chubby rednecks that have become Nazis calling themselves patriots in the process.
    Totally agree, my grandfather was one of these true Patriots.  Anyone from that generation would be pretty appalled by communism and socialism alike.
    AND DON'T TOUCH MY MEDICARE!
    There is a difference between social programs and socialists governments...Did you ever take a political science course???
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,689
    PJPOWER said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Go Beavers said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^
    I think instead of making an immediate off the hip speech right after the tragic event happened would have been lost on so many.  No one cares what a politician says during an extreme time of hate/mourning/pain.  After a few days for everything to sink in and emotions a little ( I say a little) less heated the people who the message was intended for were in a better position to receive it.  You can't react to everything at every second and expect your message to be heard.  It's like people that constantly post in one thread.  Eventually people don't read them. So to answer no I don't think it was damage control.

    that's a great point!
    how is that a great point? his comments 2 days apart contradict each other. the first was obviously from his puny brain, the second was probably written by Ivanka. 

    I don't ever recall a sitting president saying nothing about a major event to "let the events sink in". 
    I think a politician talking a day or two after the event is a ok.  I mean fdr waited until december 8th.
    fair. but what about the "both sides" comment?
    Did you not see the video footage of the protesters attacking the supremacists?

    I was wondering where the police presence was.
    It seems like the cops didn't do very good job on this one. 

    I think they did pretty good....did you see the pictures of the armed supremacists?  Those guys were in body armor and camo.

    Given the unrest I am surprised that there weren't shootings.  I would think the police deserve credit for that.
    I saw a lot of pictures of armed people on both sides...
    Oh my god.

    Come on man. You're really coming across as an apologist. Even if it was true... one side is armed to perpetuate hate, while one side would have been armed to stop hatred (just like in WWII when 'real' patriots took up arms against nazis).

    These boobs are confused.
    So you consider Antifa the "real patriots"?  I guess I understand where you are coming from now...All that the violent protesters from any front cause is an escalation in violence.  
    When I made my comment, the 'real patriots' I spoke to were those that left the comfort of North America to fight in Europe against Nazis... not these chubby rednecks that have become Nazis calling themselves patriots in the process.
    Totally agree, my grandfather was one of these true Patriots.  Anyone from that generation would be pretty appalled by communism and socialism alike.
    Nice stretch to tie in communism and socialism.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,020
    PJPOWER said:
    mrussel1 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Go Beavers said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^
    I think instead of making an immediate off the hip speech right after the tragic event happened would have been lost on so many.  No one cares what a politician says during an extreme time of hate/mourning/pain.  After a few days for everything to sink in and emotions a little ( I say a little) less heated the people who the message was intended for were in a better position to receive it.  You can't react to everything at every second and expect your message to be heard.  It's like people that constantly post in one thread.  Eventually people don't read them. So to answer no I don't think it was damage control.

    that's a great point!
    how is that a great point? his comments 2 days apart contradict each other. the first was obviously from his puny brain, the second was probably written by Ivanka. 

    I don't ever recall a sitting president saying nothing about a major event to "let the events sink in". 
    I think a politician talking a day or two after the event is a ok.  I mean fdr waited until december 8th.
    fair. but what about the "both sides" comment?
    Did you not see the video footage of the protesters attacking the supremacists?

    I was wondering where the police presence was.
    It seems like the cops didn't do very good job on this one. 

    I think they did pretty good....did you see the pictures of the armed supremacists?  Those guys were in body armor and camo.

    Given the unrest I am surprised that there weren't shootings.  I would think the police deserve credit for that.
    I saw a lot of pictures of armed people on both sides...
    Oh my god.

    Come on man. You're really coming across as an apologist. Even if it was true... one side is armed to perpetuate hate, while one side would have been armed to stop hatred (just like in WWII when 'real' patriots took up arms against nazis).

    These boobs are confused.
    So you consider Antifa the "real patriots"?  I guess I understand where you are coming from now...All that the violent protesters from any front cause is an escalation in violence.  
    When I made my comment, the 'real patriots' I spoke to were those that left the comfort of North America to fight in Europe against Nazis... not these chubby rednecks that have become Nazis calling themselves patriots in the process.
    Totally agree, my grandfather was one of these true Patriots.  Anyone from that generation would be pretty appalled by communism and socialism alike.
    AND DON'T TOUCH MY MEDICARE!
    There is a difference between social programs and socialists governments...Did you ever take a political science course???
    Yeah so you think we're in a socialist govt?  
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,689
    bootlegger10 said:

    Haven't read all of the posts, but my thought is that even if Trump says the right things about denouncing racism and white nationalists, it takes him way too long to do the right thing. 

    It is odd because you want to say he has terrible instincts (which he does), but at the same time his instincts helped win him the presidency.  Sad.


    His instincts are about manipulating a certain segment of the population. That won him the election. He has no instincts around compassion.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    cottagesteeze said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^
    I think instead of making an immediate off the hip speech right after the tragic event happened would have been lost on so many.  No one cares what a politician says during an extreme time of hate/mourning/pain.  After a few days for everything to sink in and emotions a little ( I say a little) less heated the people who the message was intended for were in a better position to receive it.  You can't react to everything at every second and expect your message to be heard.  It's like people that constantly post in one thread.  Eventually people don't read them. So to answer no I don't think it was damage control.

    Really? Why are we all talking about what DJT did/didn't say then? Keep on cheerleading for the Don!
    Yes really.  Like yourself for example who has been noticeably absent from this thread I'm sure gathered your thoughts before posting. 
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    mrussel1 said:
    JC29856 said:
    josevolution said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Tiki said:
    "on many sides, on many sides."
    You didn't see this as "any violence is bad"?
    Ok so I'll ask would it bother you if these groups decided to March in your town in the name of bigotry would you oppose them or just stand idle ... before you answer I'll tell you what I would do exactly what Heather did stand there and show my support for anti racism ....yes all violence is horrific! 
    I doubt Heather understood the full gravity of the situation there, I don't think anyone did.

    What's beyond repulsive is when her death is used to advance ideology.


    That's strange... I would have thought a normal person would be more bothered by killing someone because of the twisted ideology. 
    I wont assume I know his ideology.  
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    mrussel1 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mrussel1 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Go Beavers said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^
    I think instead of making an immediate off the hip speech right after the tragic event happened would have been lost on so many.  No one cares what a politician says during an extreme time of hate/mourning/pain.  After a few days for everything to sink in and emotions a little ( I say a little) less heated the people who the message was intended for were in a better position to receive it.  You can't react to everything at every second and expect your message to be heard.  It's like people that constantly post in one thread.  Eventually people don't read them. So to answer no I don't think it was damage control.

    that's a great point!
    how is that a great point? his comments 2 days apart contradict each other. the first was obviously from his puny brain, the second was probably written by Ivanka. 

    I don't ever recall a sitting president saying nothing about a major event to "let the events sink in". 
    I think a politician talking a day or two after the event is a ok.  I mean fdr waited until december 8th.
    fair. but what about the "both sides" comment?
    Did you not see the video footage of the protesters attacking the supremacists?

    I was wondering where the police presence was.
    It seems like the cops didn't do very good job on this one. 

    I think they did pretty good....did you see the pictures of the armed supremacists?  Those guys were in body armor and camo.

    Given the unrest I am surprised that there weren't shootings.  I would think the police deserve credit for that.
    I saw a lot of pictures of armed people on both sides...
    Oh my god.

    Come on man. You're really coming across as an apologist. Even if it was true... one side is armed to perpetuate hate, while one side would have been armed to stop hatred (just like in WWII when 'real' patriots took up arms against nazis).

    These boobs are confused.
    So you consider Antifa the "real patriots"?  I guess I understand where you are coming from now...All that the violent protesters from any front cause is an escalation in violence.  
    When I made my comment, the 'real patriots' I spoke to were those that left the comfort of North America to fight in Europe against Nazis... not these chubby rednecks that have become Nazis calling themselves patriots in the process.
    Totally agree, my grandfather was one of these true Patriots.  Anyone from that generation would be pretty appalled by communism and socialism alike.
    AND DON'T TOUCH MY MEDICARE!
    There is a difference between social programs and socialists governments...Did you ever take a political science course???
    Yeah so you think we're in a socialist govt?  
    Not hardly...and yay for that!  Oddly enough, though, the VA and Medicare are what held up his ability to get life saving medical treatment...RIP
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    cottagesteeze said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^
    I think instead of making an immediate off the hip speech right after the tragic event happened would have been lost on so many.  No one cares what a politician says during an extreme time of hate/mourning/pain.  After a few days for everything to sink in and emotions a little ( I say a little) less heated the people who the message was intended for were in a better position to receive it.  You can't react to everything at every second and expect your message to be heard.  It's like people that constantly post in one thread.  Eventually people don't read them. So to answer no I don't think it was damage control.

    Really? Why are we all talking about what DJT did/didn't say then? Keep on cheerleading for the Don!
    Yes really.  Like yourself for example who has been noticeably absent from this thread I'm sure gathered your thoughts before posting. 
    Lol

    You are relentless.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
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