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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    mrussel1 said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    Anyone?  Is President Trump still a racist now? Anyone?
    He bowed to political pressure.  Nothing more.  Where was this the previous 48 hours? His officials tried to defend it,  not tried to couch it,  but the story wasn't fading.  We'll see what happens after the Texas rally. 

    Do you expect violence and if so what will it be over?
  • HesCalledDyer
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    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    mfc2006 said:
    Too little and way too late. Fuck Trump and his nonstop bullshit.


    You guys don't think that after that condemnation speech has altered your perception of him a little?  I think it was a very great thing doing that.  Calling out those hate groups.
    Like someone else said: too little, too late.  He should've called them out Saturday.  At the very latest it should've been his first statement when he woke up yesterday.  The white supremacist groups already took his initial statement as "he wasn't talking about us, he said all sides."
    He's just saying it now because he has to, not because he wants to.
    And there you have it.  He technically doesn't have to do anything.  Why does he have to? To save his Presidency or because it is the right thing or both?  Who is saying he has to do this?
    And there you have what, exactly? You totally missed ignored the fucking point and spun it some other way. In usual PJfan style.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
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    HesCalledDyer said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    mfc2006 said:
    Too little and way too late. Fuck Trump and his nonstop bullshit.


    You guys don't think that after that condemnation speech has altered your perception of him a little?  I think it was a very great thing doing that.  Calling out those hate groups.
    Like someone else said: too little, too late.  He should've called them out Saturday.  At the very latest it should've been his first statement when he woke up yesterday.  The white supremacist groups already took his initial statement as "he wasn't talking about us, he said all sides."
    He's just saying it now because he has to, not because he wants to.
    And there you have it.  He technically doesn't have to do anything.  Why does he have to? To save his Presidency or because it is the right thing or both?  Who is saying he has to do this?
    And there you have what, exactly? You totally missed ignored the fucking point and spun it some other way. In usual PJfan style.

    I didn't spin anything.  I am unclear what you mean "he has to"
  • tempo_n_groove
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^
    I think instead of making an immediate off the hip speech right after the tragic event happened would have been lost on so many.  No one cares what a politician says during an extreme time of hate/mourning/pain.  After a few days for everything to sink in and emotions a little ( I say a little) less heated the people who the message was intended for were in a better position to receive it.  You can't react to everything at every second and expect your message to be heard.  It's like people that constantly post in one thread.  Eventually people don't read them. So to answer no I don't think it was damage control.

    that's a great point!
    how is that a great point? his comments 2 days apart contradict each other. the first was obviously from his puny brain, the second was probably written by Ivanka. 

    I don't ever recall a sitting president saying nothing about a major event to "let the events sink in". 
    I think a politician talking a day or two after the event is a ok.  I mean fdr waited until december 8th.
    fair. but what about the "both sides" comment?
    Did you not see the video footage of the protesters attacking the supremacists?

    I was wondering where the police presence was.
  • Go Beavers
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    tempo_n_groove said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^
    I think instead of making an immediate off the hip speech right after the tragic event happened would have been lost on so many.  No one cares what a politician says during an extreme time of hate/mourning/pain.  After a few days for everything to sink in and emotions a little ( I say a little) less heated the people who the message was intended for were in a better position to receive it.  You can't react to everything at every second and expect your message to be heard.  It's like people that constantly post in one thread.  Eventually people don't read them. So to answer no I don't think it was damage control.

    that's a great point!
    how is that a great point? his comments 2 days apart contradict each other. the first was obviously from his puny brain, the second was probably written by Ivanka. 

    I don't ever recall a sitting president saying nothing about a major event to "let the events sink in". 
    I think a politician talking a day or two after the event is a ok.  I mean fdr waited until december 8th.
    fair. but what about the "both sides" comment?
    Did you not see the video footage of the protesters attacking the supremacists?

    I was wondering where the police presence was.
    It seems like the cops didn't do very good job on this one. 

  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,500
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    mfc2006 said:
    Too little and way too late. Fuck Trump and his nonstop bullshit.


    You guys don't think that after that condemnation speech has altered your perception of him a little?  I think it was a very great thing doing that.  Calling out those hate groups.
    Like someone else said: too little, too late.  He should've called them out Saturday.  At the very latest it should've been his first statement when he woke up yesterday.  The white supremacist groups already took his initial statement as "he wasn't talking about us, he said all sides."
    He's just saying it now because he has to, not because he wants to.
    And there you have it.  He technically doesn't have to do anything.  Why does he have to? To save his Presidency or because it is the right thing or both?  Who is saying he has to do this?
    And there you have what, exactly? You totally missed ignored the fucking point and spun it some other way. In usual PJfan style.

    I didn't spin anything.  I am unclear what you mean "he has to"
    For someone who continually plays the semantics game, I have a hard time believing that.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
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    HesCalledDyer said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    mfc2006 said:
    Too little and way too late. Fuck Trump and his nonstop bullshit.


    You guys don't think that after that condemnation speech has altered your perception of him a little?  I think it was a very great thing doing that.  Calling out those hate groups.
    Like someone else said: too little, too late.  He should've called them out Saturday.  At the very latest it should've been his first statement when he woke up yesterday.  The white supremacist groups already took his initial statement as "he wasn't talking about us, he said all sides."
    He's just saying it now because he has to, not because he wants to.
    And there you have it.  He technically doesn't have to do anything.  Why does he have to? To save his Presidency or because it is the right thing or both?  Who is saying he has to do this?
    And there you have what, exactly? You totally missed ignored the fucking point and spun it some other way. In usual PJfan style.

    I didn't spin anything.  I am unclear what you mean "he has to"
    For someone who continually plays the semantics game, I have a hard time believing that.

    So can you explain in detail what you mean when you say "He's just saying it now because he has to" your point is not coming across.  I know it's hard to do online but if you try I will listen.
  • Gern Blansten
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    Go Beavers said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^
    I think instead of making an immediate off the hip speech right after the tragic event happened would have been lost on so many.  No one cares what a politician says during an extreme time of hate/mourning/pain.  After a few days for everything to sink in and emotions a little ( I say a little) less heated the people who the message was intended for were in a better position to receive it.  You can't react to everything at every second and expect your message to be heard.  It's like people that constantly post in one thread.  Eventually people don't read them. So to answer no I don't think it was damage control.

    that's a great point!
    how is that a great point? his comments 2 days apart contradict each other. the first was obviously from his puny brain, the second was probably written by Ivanka. 

    I don't ever recall a sitting president saying nothing about a major event to "let the events sink in". 
    I think a politician talking a day or two after the event is a ok.  I mean fdr waited until december 8th.
    fair. but what about the "both sides" comment?
    Did you not see the video footage of the protesters attacking the supremacists?

    I was wondering where the police presence was.
    It seems like the cops didn't do very good job on this one. 

    I think they did pretty good....did you see the pictures of the armed supremacists?  Those guys were in body armor and camo.

    Given the unrest I am surprised that there weren't shootings.  I would think the police deserve credit for that.
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  • Gern Blansten
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    edited August 2017
    Those aren't cops...
    http://imgur.com/JCY2Aru

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  • ikiT
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    It should have been common sense for the Presidential  statement to be made without the employment numbers and the off the cuff insertion of the the Trump brand into the center of the discussion, on SATURDAY.  
    He sort of needs better handlers.  Pathetic.


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  • Cliffy6745
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    Can people stop talking to this person please?
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  • PJPOWER
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    Gern Blansten said:
    Go Beavers said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^
    I think instead of making an immediate off the hip speech right after the tragic event happened would have been lost on so many.  No one cares what a politician says during an extreme time of hate/mourning/pain.  After a few days for everything to sink in and emotions a little ( I say a little) less heated the people who the message was intended for were in a better position to receive it.  You can't react to everything at every second and expect your message to be heard.  It's like people that constantly post in one thread.  Eventually people don't read them. So to answer no I don't think it was damage control.

    that's a great point!
    how is that a great point? his comments 2 days apart contradict each other. the first was obviously from his puny brain, the second was probably written by Ivanka. 

    I don't ever recall a sitting president saying nothing about a major event to "let the events sink in". 
    I think a politician talking a day or two after the event is a ok.  I mean fdr waited until december 8th.
    fair. but what about the "both sides" comment?
    Did you not see the video footage of the protesters attacking the supremacists?

    I was wondering where the police presence was.
    It seems like the cops didn't do very good job on this one. 

    I think they did pretty good....did you see the pictures of the armed supremacists?  Those guys were in body armor and camo.

    Given the unrest I am surprised that there weren't shootings.  I would think the police deserve credit for that.
    I saw a lot of pictures of armed people on both sides...
  • ikiT
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    both sides no

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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
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    Tiki said:


    See this is funny.  Unless it offends someone. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    Anyone?  Is President Trump still a racist now? Anyone?
    Yes
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  • ikiT
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    "on many sides, on many sides."
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  • tempo_n_groove
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    Gern Blansten said:
    Those aren't cops...
    http://imgur.com/JCY2Aru

    They aren't National Guard either.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,864
    Tiki said:
    "on many sides, on many sides."
    You didn't see this as "any violence is bad"?
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
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    tempo_n_groove said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Those aren't cops...
    http://imgur.com/JCY2Aru

    They aren't National Guard either.

    That is crazy.  It's even crazier that it is legal to do in your country.  That's messed up.
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