Tucker just blew shit up. Source with Podesta group has been cooperating with Mueller. Manafort was working with Podesta Group on behalf of Russian interests. Podesta Group and access they provided to Clinton is key target of Mueller right now.
I’m not gaining anything new from all of these articles about this tonight. I don’t understand the logic of a poster here that this clears anyone on the Trump team. Of course Democrats picked up to pay this! And guess what, Republicans did this sort of thing on Hillary- no doubt about it. But why are we hearing about this and not hers? Because there’s no illegal coercsion with a foreign power by the campaign manager and high level staff of the Clinton campaign. If I were Trump and Republicans, I’d get off this as fast as possible. The story’s on the Clinton’s right now, but it’s brief. It will quickly turn to that very dossier and how much of it has been proven accurate, and if that’s been used to tap Manafort, Page, Flynn- all the information from those taps that have been proven as shady. So, by all means, keep talking about it. It only leads to examining the info closer.
Ha. All of a sudden it’s “of course Democrats paid for this”. They have been denying it the whole time and Fusion GPS refused to devulge this very fact. The dossier has been examined and there is nothing there. The only thing left to prove is whether this russian sourced oppo research was used to justify FISA warrants because if that’s the case it is prison time for all your heroes.
While you’ve been crying fake news forever, a lot of that document has been proven very, very true. Maybe not the salacious things some posters here feel would change anything or lead to impeachment, but enough has been proven accurate as to where the intelligence investigations in Congress are taking it seriously. I could care less about Trump paying hookers. Like that’s never happened from him before. I care about the tiny details that you blow off as nothing burgers but they point the investigation in a direction where people (not my people) will go to jail. Flynn, Page, and Manafort are fucked. Maybe Jared. But I think that’s it. The others are given options to avoid embarrassment to the nation and themselves. No one is going to jail over peeing. No one is getting impeached over it either. But those guys I named are absolutely going down.
Please list the things in the dossier that have been proven true.
Dude, if I did that, would it really change anything? The way I see it, I do a basic Google search, copy and paste the information, post it here, and be automatically peppered with nonsense from you instead of talking about the issue. Forgive me, but it’s late and I just don’t have the energy to go round and round with you where no one wins and energy and time is wasted all around.
That was the answer I expected.
You expected an answer that I’ve never given? The point is, why should I or anyone debate you? It is well known that many things in that dossier have been proven. All this news tonight tells us that either the DNC or Clinton contributed to funding the research. Anyone who didn’t know that was the case is out of touch with reality and doesn’t get how politics works. Yes, the DNC funds opposition research. Yes, the DNC favors loyal DEMOCRATS to represent their party on the election for the highest office in the land. Those jerks. Get over it.
The funding of the dossier by the DNC/Clinton was denied up until yesterday. Now it is official. The DNC/Clinton via Fusion GPS colluded with Russian intelligence sources to produce a document that would harm a political opponent and the election process. The same Fusion GPS mind you that previously produced fake dossiers on Venezuelan whistleblowers and Russian whistleblowers. Blind hatred of Trump has caused you all to sacrifice your principles. He wasn’t supposed to win and these secrets were never supposed to be revealed. Continue to protect your precious narrative.
Is there anyone on the face of the earth left who thinks this man deserves to remain in office? My number one wish is that he would experience satori and in reaction to his own true nature, quit his job and go sit on a mountain some where far, far away.
Unfortunately, I know several people that still think Trump is the best thing that happened to the US. They proudly wear their red 'make America great again' hats and say that they wish the fake media would leave Trump alone and let him do his job. They are very pleased with his job performance.
The exposure of the depth of corruption in the previous administration from the DOJ, to the State Department to potentially the White House is why Trump was necessary. The swamp needs to be drained.
Gee I wonder why the GOP omitted the part about this originally being ordered and funded by the GOP. Either way, what matters is not who paid for it but the subject matter as it has been corroborated:
The GOP funding preceded the hiring of Steele and the production of the dossier. It was the DNC/Clinton campaign who paid for Russian intelligence to target a political component.
Is there anyone on the face of the earth left who thinks this man deserves to remain in office? My number one wish is that he would experience satori and in reaction to his own true nature, quit his job and go sit on a mountain some where far, far away.
BS thinks there are honest Russians that worked in cohoots with orange bafoon's campaign which are full of dishonest Americans...
Everybody who says “the dossier is true” believes there are honest Russians. Steele received all his data from anonymous Russian sources. Sources that invented a pee tape. Yet you all swallow it whole.
Gee I wonder why the GOP omitted the part about this originally being ordered and funded by the GOP. Either way, what matters is not who paid for it but the subject matter as it has been corroborated:
The GOP funding preceded the hiring of Steele and the production of the dossier. It was the DNC/Clinton campaign who paid for Russian intelligence to target a political component.
If only you held the Trump campaign to the same standards, but that doesn't fit your bias.
I’m not gaining anything new from all of these articles about this tonight. I don’t understand the logic of a poster here that this clears anyone on the Trump team. Of course Democrats picked up to pay this! And guess what, Republicans did this sort of thing on Hillary- no doubt about it. But why are we hearing about this and not hers? Because there’s no illegal coercsion with a foreign power by the campaign manager and high level staff of the Clinton campaign. If I were Trump and Republicans, I’d get off this as fast as possible. The story’s on the Clinton’s right now, but it’s brief. It will quickly turn to that very dossier and how much of it has been proven accurate, and if that’s been used to tap Manafort, Page, Flynn- all the information from those taps that have been proven as shady. So, by all means, keep talking about it. It only leads to examining the info closer.
Ha. All of a sudden it’s “of course Democrats paid for this”. They have been denying it the whole time and Fusion GPS refused to devulge this very fact. The dossier has been examined and there is nothing there. The only thing left to prove is whether this russian sourced oppo research was used to justify FISA warrants because if that’s the case it is prison time for all your heroes.
Where have you been? All of a sudden? You seem to have forgotten the length of time that Manafort and others within the trump organization have been involved with Russian oligarchs prior to trump running for president, corrupt Ukrainian oligarchs with ties to Putin and how FISA warrants work. Do you honestly believe intelligence agencies started listening in on Manafort and Trump when the dossier story broke? How naive are you, Professor? Blinded by the brilliance of it all?
Intelligence listened to Manafort years before his involvement with the Trump campaign and then it ended. A new FISA warrant was required to re-start wiretapping of Manafort. That second FISA warrant came after the production of the Steele dossier. Read a paper.
Gee I wonder why the GOP omitted the part about this originally being ordered and funded by the GOP. Either way, what matters is not who paid for it but the subject matter as it has been corroborated:
The GOP funding preceded the hiring of Steele and the production of the dossier. It was the DNC/Clinton campaign who paid for Russian intelligence to target a political component.
If only you held the Trump campaign to the same standards, but that doesn't fit your bias.
I do. Follow the evidence where it leads. If Manafort goes down who cares.
Tucker just blew shit up. Source with Podesta group has been cooperating with Mueller. Manafort was working with Podesta Group on behalf of Russian interests. Podesta Group and access they provided to Clinton is key target of Mueller right now.
I’m not gaining anything new from all of these articles about this tonight. I don’t understand the logic of a poster here that this clears anyone on the Trump team. Of course Democrats picked up to pay this! And guess what, Republicans did this sort of thing on Hillary- no doubt about it. But why are we hearing about this and not hers? Because there’s no illegal coercsion with a foreign power by the campaign manager and high level staff of the Clinton campaign. If I were Trump and Republicans, I’d get off this as fast as possible. The story’s on the Clinton’s right now, but it’s brief. It will quickly turn to that very dossier and how much of it has been proven accurate, and if that’s been used to tap Manafort, Page, Flynn- all the information from those taps that have been proven as shady. So, by all means, keep talking about it. It only leads to examining the info closer.
Ha. All of a sudden it’s “of course Democrats paid for this”. They have been denying it the whole time and Fusion GPS refused to devulge this very fact. The dossier has been examined and there is nothing there. The only thing left to prove is whether this russian sourced oppo research was used to justify FISA warrants because if that’s the case it is prison time for all your heroes.
Where have you been? All of a sudden? You seem to have forgotten the length of time that Manafort and others within the trump organization have been involved with Russian oligarchs prior to trump running for president, corrupt Ukrainian oligarchs with ties to Putin and how FISA warrants work. Do you honestly believe intelligence agencies started listening in on Manafort and Trump when the dossier story broke? How naive are you, Professor? Blinded by the brilliance of it all?
Intelligence listened to Manafort years before his involvement with the Trump campaign and then it ended. A new FISA warrant was required to re-start wiretapping of Manafort. That second FISA warrant came after the production of the Steele dossier. Read a paper.
You still naively believe that Manafort was “tapped” due to the Steele dossier and that all the Russian connections and subsequent misstatements and outright lying about said Russian connections is because of the Steele dossier funded by Hillary and dropped off by her in the dead of night in dead drop? Can’t stand to see your boy go down. Remind me again of the convictions Hillary has or the scandals of the Obama administration. Why so silent on Niger BS?
I’m not gaining anything new from all of these articles about this tonight. I don’t understand the logic of a poster here that this clears anyone on the Trump team. Of course Democrats picked up to pay this! And guess what, Republicans did this sort of thing on Hillary- no doubt about it. But why are we hearing about this and not hers? Because there’s no illegal coercsion with a foreign power by the campaign manager and high level staff of the Clinton campaign. If I were Trump and Republicans, I’d get off this as fast as possible. The story’s on the Clinton’s right now, but it’s brief. It will quickly turn to that very dossier and how much of it has been proven accurate, and if that’s been used to tap Manafort, Page, Flynn- all the information from those taps that have been proven as shady. So, by all means, keep talking about it. It only leads to examining the info closer.
Ha. All of a sudden it’s “of course Democrats paid for this”. They have been denying it the whole time and Fusion GPS refused to devulge this very fact. The dossier has been examined and there is nothing there. The only thing left to prove is whether this russian sourced oppo research was used to justify FISA warrants because if that’s the case it is prison time for all your heroes.
While you’ve been crying fake news forever, a lot of that document has been proven very, very true. Maybe not the salacious things some posters here feel would change anything or lead to impeachment, but enough has been proven accurate as to where the intelligence investigations in Congress are taking it seriously. I could care less about Trump paying hookers. Like that’s never happened from him before. I care about the tiny details that you blow off as nothing burgers but they point the investigation in a direction where people (not my people) will go to jail. Flynn, Page, and Manafort are fucked. Maybe Jared. But I think that’s it. The others are given options to avoid embarrassment to the nation and themselves. No one is going to jail over peeing. No one is getting impeached over it either. But those guys I named are absolutely going down.
Please list the things in the dossier that have been proven true.
Dude, if I did that, would it really change anything? The way I see it, I do a basic Google search, copy and paste the information, post it here, and be automatically peppered with nonsense from you instead of talking about the issue. Forgive me, but it’s late and I just don’t have the energy to go round and round with you where no one wins and energy and time is wasted all around.
That was the answer I expected.
You expected an answer that I’ve never given? The point is, why should I or anyone debate you? It is well known that many things in that dossier have been proven. All this news tonight tells us that either the DNC or Clinton contributed to funding the research. Anyone who didn’t know that was the case is out of touch with reality and doesn’t get how politics works. Yes, the DNC funds opposition research. Yes, the DNC favors loyal DEMOCRATS to represent their party on the election for the highest office in the land. Those jerks. Get over it.
The funding of the dossier by the DNC/Clinton was denied up until yesterday. Now it is official. The DNC/Clinton via Fusion GPS colluded with Russian intelligence sources to produce a document that would harm a political opponent and the election process. The same Fusion GPS mind you that previously produced fake dossiers on Venezuelan whistleblowers and Russian whistleblowers. Blind hatred of Trump has caused you all to sacrifice your principles. He wasn’t supposed to win and these secrets were never supposed to be revealed. Continue to protect your precious narrative.
Fusion was originally hired by Rubio GOP backers to smear Trump, largest donors being from CA and NY (shocker) Once Trump won IN, Rubio backers terminated with Fusion Fusion then shopped the "intel" to the DNC, with DNC attorney Coie taking a particular liking to the reports Coie after having had some confidence in the reporting, took it to Skippy Podesta and DWS Shortly after with the help of Mccain, the reports ended up in the hands of Mccabe, Comey, Rice and Brennan Comey and Mccabe already were funding Steele before Fusion began investigation Trump in 2015 Mccabe began his Trump counter-intelligence operation with the help of Brennan and Rice early 2016 Comey arranged the meeting among Fusion, Steele and Orbis mid 2016 Fusion hires Steele Comey FBI planned to reimburse Steele expenses for regular updates Once Steele was outted Comey reneged on the offer, reimbursements were then routed thru FIFA investigation $ FBI received the regular Trump intel updates and used it to get the FISA warrants (the first was denied) ....leading to the Trump Tower JR and Natalia Veselnitskaya meeting
Gee I wonder why the GOP omitted the part about this originally being ordered and funded by the GOP. Either way, what matters is not who paid for it but the subject matter as it has been corroborated:
The GOP funding preceded the hiring of Steele and the production of the dossier. It was the DNC/Clinton campaign who paid for Russian intelligence to target a political component.
If only you held the Trump campaign to the same standards, but that doesn't fit your bias.
You just knew this non news story would bring these people out of their caves today. Notice how they are conveniently ignoring the fact that the dossier has been corroborated? Who cares who paid for it when the stuff in it is true....
Gee I wonder why the GOP omitted the part about this originally being ordered and funded by the GOP. Either way, what matters is not who paid for it but the subject matter as it has been corroborated:
The GOP funding preceded the hiring of Steele and the production of the dossier. It was the DNC/Clinton campaign who paid for Russian intelligence to target a political component.
If only you held the Trump campaign to the same standards, but that doesn't fit your bias.
You just knew this non news story would bring these people out of their caves today. Notice how they are conveniently ignoring the fact that the dossier has been corroborated? Who cares who paid for it when the stuff in it is true....
Tell us what parts are true? While you're at it explain why the DNC maintained for a year they had nothing to do with it?
Gee I wonder why the GOP omitted the part about this originally being ordered and funded by the GOP. Either way, what matters is not who paid for it but the subject matter as it has been corroborated:
The GOP funding preceded the hiring of Steele and the production of the dossier. It was the DNC/Clinton campaign who paid for Russian intelligence to target a political component.
If only you held the Trump campaign to the same standards, but that doesn't fit your bias.
You just knew this non news story would bring these people out of their caves today. Notice how they are conveniently ignoring the fact that the dossier has been corroborated? Who cares who paid for it when the stuff in it is true....
Tell us what parts are true? While you're at it explain why the DNC maintained for a year they had nothing to do with it?
Tell us what parts are false. Political smear campaigns don’t advertise themselves. Who funded the leafleting of cars at churches that claimed McCain fathered a black child during the South Carolina primaries? Non story because those with a soul and a conscious see trump as reckless and unfit. A disaffected butt hurt Bernie bro was duped by Russian collusion and Putin. But Hillary!
Gee I wonder why the GOP omitted the part about this originally being ordered and funded by the GOP. Either way, what matters is not who paid for it but the subject matter as it has been corroborated:
The GOP funding preceded the hiring of Steele and the production of the dossier. It was the DNC/Clinton campaign who paid for Russian intelligence to target a political component.
If only you held the Trump campaign to the same standards, but that doesn't fit your bias.
You just knew this non news story would bring these people out of their caves today. Notice how they are conveniently ignoring the fact that the dossier has been corroborated? Who cares who paid for it when the stuff in it is true....
Tell us what parts are true? While you're at it explain why the DNC maintained for a year they had nothing to do with it?
It's a long read but I don't believe anything has changed since I posted the link a month ago. CNN reported the dems picked it up from the repubs in January. Stuff is pretty common in politics.
Gee I wonder why the GOP omitted the part about this originally being ordered and funded by the GOP. Either way, what matters is not who paid for it but the subject matter as it has been corroborated:
The GOP funding preceded the hiring of Steele and the production of the dossier. It was the DNC/Clinton campaign who paid for Russian intelligence to target a political component.
If only you held the Trump campaign to the same standards, but that doesn't fit your bias.
You just knew this non news story would bring these people out of their caves today. Notice how they are conveniently ignoring the fact that the dossier has been corroborated? Who cares who paid for it when the stuff in it is true....
Exactly. The focus is on the wrong thing here. And why the poster on here talking about how information came from Russians so it must be flawed. No. I trust Russian civilians just as much as I trust American citizens. The problem is that the Trump campaign met with arms of the Russian GOVERNMENT. Not Russian CITIZENS, where the information from the dossier was obtained. And if someone can’t understand the difference between the two, than they’re just blind. Completely and willingly blind.
Gee I wonder why the GOP omitted the part about this originally being ordered and funded by the GOP. Either way, what matters is not who paid for it but the subject matter as it has been corroborated:
The GOP funding preceded the hiring of Steele and the production of the dossier. It was the DNC/Clinton campaign who paid for Russian intelligence to target a political component.
If only you held the Trump campaign to the same standards, but that doesn't fit your bias.
You just knew this non news story would bring these people out of their caves today. Notice how they are conveniently ignoring the fact that the dossier has been corroborated? Who cares who paid for it when the stuff in it is true....
Tell us what parts are true? While you're at it explain why the DNC maintained for a year they had nothing to do with it?
Why? Because in campaigns and politics you don’t tip your hand as to how you get your information. This isn’t that hard to explain if you think with reason.
Gee I wonder why the GOP omitted the part about this originally being ordered and funded by the GOP. Either way, what matters is not who paid for it but the subject matter as it has been corroborated:
The GOP funding preceded the hiring of Steele and the production of the dossier. It was the DNC/Clinton campaign who paid for Russian intelligence to target a political component.
If only you held the Trump campaign to the same standards, but that doesn't fit your bias.
You just knew this non news story would bring these people out of their caves today. Notice how they are conveniently ignoring the fact that the dossier has been corroborated? Who cares who paid for it when the stuff in it is true....
Gee I wonder why the GOP omitted the part about this originally being ordered and funded by the GOP. Either way, what matters is not who paid for it but the subject matter as it has been corroborated:
The GOP funding preceded the hiring of Steele and the production of the dossier. It was the DNC/Clinton campaign who paid for Russian intelligence to target a political component.
If only you held the Trump campaign to the same standards, but that doesn't fit your bias.
You just knew this non news story would bring these people out of their caves today. Notice how they are conveniently ignoring the fact that the dossier has been corroborated? Who cares who paid for it when the stuff in it is true....
Tell us what parts are true? While you're at it explain why the DNC maintained for a year they had nothing to do with it?
It's a long read but I don't believe anything has changed since I posted the link a month ago. CNN reported the dems picked it up from the repubs in January. Stuff is pretty common in politics.
Gee I wonder why the GOP omitted the part about this originally being ordered and funded by the GOP. Either way, what matters is not who paid for it but the subject matter as it has been corroborated:
The GOP funding preceded the hiring of Steele and the production of the dossier. It was the DNC/Clinton campaign who paid for Russian intelligence to target a political component.
If only you held the Trump campaign to the same standards, but that doesn't fit your bias.
You just knew this non news story would bring these people out of their caves today. Notice how they are conveniently ignoring the fact that the dossier has been corroborated? Who cares who paid for it when the stuff in it is true....
Exactly. The focus is on the wrong thing here. And why the poster on here talking about how information came from Russians so it must be flawed. No. I trust Russian civilians just as much as I trust American citizens. The problem is that the Trump campaign met with arms of the Russian GOVERNMENT. Not Russian CITIZENS, where the information from the dossier was obtained. And if someone can’t understand the difference between the two, than they’re just blind. Completely and willingly blind.
The Podesta group met with arms of the Russian Government. Arms of the Russian government made large donations to the Clinton Foundation. Arms of the Russian government paid Clinton large sums for speaking appearances. It is you who are willingly blind. The corruptiom you accuse Trump of was going on for years during the Obama afministration. You don’t want that to be the story. It can’t be the story. The Trump Organization was doing personal business deals with Russians. The Obama Administation was selling Russians uranium while lining their own pockets.
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I feel like the dossier was likely shopped around after the GOP exit. They had the info, why not find a new place to sell the research.
I feel like the dossier was likely shopped around after the GOP exit. They had the info, why not find a new place to sell the research.
That is EXACTLY how these things work.
Yup. Blind Trump supporters can flail their arms up and down today, even though much of this "news" came out 10 months ago........but the bottom line is if the stuff in the dossier is true (and much has been corroborated already), who the hell cares if a republican and/or a democrat funded the thing? What's in it matters and what's in it is being worked over by Mueller and his team with a multiple fine toothed combs.
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Stop. Just stop talking dude.
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No
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/24/politics/obama-era-uranium-deal/index.html
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/540270/
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Once Trump won IN, Rubio backers terminated with Fusion
Fusion then shopped the "intel" to the DNC, with DNC attorney Coie taking a particular liking to the reports
Coie after having had some confidence in the reporting, took it to Skippy Podesta and DWS
Shortly after with the help of Mccain, the reports ended up in the hands of Mccabe, Comey, Rice and Brennan
Comey and Mccabe already were funding Steele before Fusion began investigation Trump in 2015
Mccabe began his Trump counter-intelligence operation with the help of Brennan and Rice early 2016
Comey arranged the meeting among Fusion, Steele and Orbis mid 2016
Fusion hires Steele
Comey FBI planned to reimburse Steele expenses for regular updates
Once Steele was outted Comey reneged on the offer, reimbursements were then routed thru FIFA investigation $
FBI received the regular Trump intel updates and used it to get the FISA warrants (the first was denied)
....leading to the Trump Tower JR and Natalia Veselnitskaya meeting
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/josh-rogin/wp/2017/07/11/inside-the-link-between-the-russian-lawyer-who-met-donald-trump-jr-and-the-trump-dossier/?utm_term=.bdbd41c08500
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/341788-exclusive-doj-let-russian-lawyer-into-us-before-she-met-with-trump
https://youtu.be/pyOQeFeAxo0
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/10/25/hillary-clintons-disingenuous-dossier-outrage/?utm_term=.ecb09a73bfd6
While you're at it explain why the DNC maintained for a year they had nothing to do with it?
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It's a long read but I don't believe anything has changed since I posted the link a month ago. CNN reported the dems picked it up from the repubs in January. Stuff is pretty common in politics.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2017/09/a_lot_of_the_steele_dossier_has_since_been_corroborated.html
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
This isn’t that hard to explain if you think with reason.
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
Yup. Blind Trump supporters can flail their arms up and down today, even though much of this "news" came out 10 months ago........but the bottom line is if the stuff in the dossier is true (and much has been corroborated already), who the hell cares if a republican and/or a democrat funded the thing? What's in it matters and what's in it is being worked over by Mueller and his team with a multiple fine toothed combs.
https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti/status/9231966987422146
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm