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  • InHiding80
    InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623

    "Benghazi." It's not that there was one Benghazi investigation. It's that there were four of them. All for the expedient political purpose of dragging Hillary through the mud as the 2016 election approached. I have yet to hear the democrat equivalent of Mitch McConnell state that the Dems number one priority is to see this president fail. Sorry, but I will mock the other side for their stupidity and ruination of a great nation. All so they could have the last word or be on top or rub it in the dems' face. Some people can't stand it when Libs rightly call out and mock the other side for their folly.

    But, but, but Benghazi! 0 scandals that resulted in any real significance by the previous administration by the way.

    http://m.dailykos.com/story/2017/1/11/1619079/-Comparing-Presidential-Administrations-by-Arrests-and-Convictions-A-Warning-for-Trump-Appointees

    If Orange republican did Benghazzi there would be no outrage. Oh wait! That happened already! It's called Yemen!
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,401
    Looking to free up more land so we can dig and build until the world explodes from over population and lack of resources to support our egos and lifestyle.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/04/26/trump-executive-order-could-rescind-national-monuments/100914086/
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    tbergs said:

    Looking to free up more land so we can dig and build until the world explodes from over population and lack of resources to support our egos and lifestyle.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/04/26/trump-executive-order-could-rescind-national-monuments/100914086/

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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    tbergs said:

    Looking to free up more land so we can dig and build until the world explodes from over population and lack of resources to support our egos and lifestyle.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/04/26/trump-executive-order-could-rescind-national-monuments/100914086/

    This made me really sad. Our National Park System is treasure.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    CM189191 said:

    tbergs said:

    Looking to free up more land so we can dig and build until the world explodes from over population and lack of resources to support our egos and lifestyle.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/04/26/trump-executive-order-could-rescind-national-monuments/100914086/

    This made me really sad. Our National Park System is treasure.
    He said past designations have too often excluded the people most directly affected by the designations. "The local community, the loggers, the fishermen, those areas that are affected should have a say and a voice," Zinke said.

    they should have a voice, but not a say. that's gross conflict of interest. you don't give a say on a decision to those who would benefit from said decision. but that's Orange for you. "let's gut the earth of all its resources all in the name of economics!!!".

    yeah, that's fucking sustainable.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,150
    Drops by? Drops by? Its being held at the White House EOB for crying out loud. What's he doing? Bringing the beer and pretzels?

    • 3:00PM: President Trump drops by a briefing the White House is hosting for Senators regarding North Korea
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668

    Drops by? Drops by? Its being held at the White House EOB for crying out loud. What's he doing? Bringing the beer and pretzels?

    • 3:00PM: President Trump drops by a briefing the White House is hosting for Senators regarding North Korea

    Yeah, you'd think that would be a 3 hour long meeting at least, and not a briefing. A deep, involved discussion.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    it's a game of rock paper scissors and the winner chooses "nuke NK or don't nuke NK". problem is, everyone in the room thinks that nothing beats rock, so the meeting goes for hours until they adjourn to watch fox news and drink expensive canadian whiskey.
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  • CM189191
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    PJ_Soul said:

    Drops by? Drops by? Its being held at the White House EOB for crying out loud. What's he doing? Bringing the beer and pretzels?

    • 3:00PM: President Trump drops by a briefing the White House is hosting for Senators regarding North Korea

    Yeah, you'd think that would be a 3 hour long meeting at least, and not a briefing. A deep, involved discussion.
    Trump has neither the capabilities to be deep, nor the desire to be involved.

    Have you seen his tax plan?
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,150
    edited April 2017
    The man who proposed a tax policy wont release his tax returns, leaving us to fathom what policies may benefit him. What a crook. So much for draining the swamp.

    Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin on Wednesday said that President Trump has "no intention" of releasing his tax returns.

    When asked during a press conference if Trump will release his tax returns, Mnuchin replied that Trump already released "plenty of information" about his taxes.

    "The president has no intention - the president has released plenty of information and I think has given more financial disclosure than anybody else," Mnuchin said. "I think the American population has plenty of information."

    Trump has long declined to release his tax returns, breaking decades-old precedent for presidential candidates.

    Trump has said that he can't release his taxes while they're under audit by the IRS. But the IRS has said that an audit doesn't prevent an individual from making his or her tax returns public.

    Democratic lawmakers have repeatedly tried to obtain Trump's taxes through various methods in the House but have seen their efforts blocked by Republicans.

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mnuchin-trump-has-no-intention-to-release-tax-returns/ar-BBApgmN?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp

    More than Hillary Clinton? Who released 20 years of tax returns? Really? Dems should vote no until he releases his returns.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,297
    At first glance, I'm in favor of the tax cut proposal.
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  • CM189191
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    Jason P said:

    At first glance, I'm in favor of the tax cut proposal.

    Repealing the estate tax (or "death tax" as they call it), which applies only to the top 0.2% of estates (and exempts the first $5.49 million ($10.98 million per married couple) of an estate's assets from taxation)

    Repealing the 3.8% "Obamacare tax," which applies only to investment income (not wages or other earned income), and only to that portion of investment income in excess of $200,000 per year for individual filers or $250,000 for joint filers

    Repealing the AMT, the vast majority of which applies only to high-income taxpayers
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,401
    Jason P said:

    At first glance, I'm in favor of the tax cut proposal.

    Looks decent on that single piece of paper when there's no real life application to consider what it really means. The 15% business tax proposal is the most glaring problem though and will not likely be able to stay that low considering what it would do to the federal deficit.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,549
    tbergs said:

    Jason P said:

    At first glance, I'm in favor of the tax cut proposal.

    Looks decent on that single piece of paper when there's no real life application to consider what it really means. The 15% business tax proposal is the most glaring problem though and will not likely be able to stay that low considering what it would do to the federal deficit.
    I'm sure it'll blow up the deficit, but I haven't seen any estimates yet. The typical American already has a relatively low tax burden. It's another con job from trump.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,150

    tbergs said:

    Jason P said:

    At first glance, I'm in favor of the tax cut proposal.

    Looks decent on that single piece of paper when there's no real life application to consider what it really means. The 15% business tax proposal is the most glaring problem though and will not likely be able to stay that low considering what it would do to the federal deficit.
    I'm sure it'll blow up the deficit, but I haven't seen any estimates yet. The typical American already has a relatively low tax burden. It's another con job from trump.
    $6B. A pittance when you're trying to save your republican congress and get a "win."

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/25/politics/donald-trump-tax-plan-senate-rules/

    Or $2T-$2.5T over ten years.

    http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2017/04/25/

    Where are all those fiscal conservatives from the past 8 years now? Oh yea, its their MO, talk balanced budgets and reducing the deficit, get into office and explode them both when your party is in power. Thanks Donny.
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  • Jason P
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    doubles the standard deduction for the 99 percenters. that is a pretty huge impact for us (tax payers)
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  • Go Beavers
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    Jason P said:

    doubles the standard deduction for the 99 percenters. that is a pretty huge impact for us (tax payers)

    So more "free stuff" I was hearing about during the election.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,297
    edited April 2017

    Jason P said:

    doubles the standard deduction for the 99 percenters. that is a pretty huge impact for us (tax payers)

    So more "free stuff" I was hearing about during the election.
    Free stuff??? That is my money that I earned. Getting up 6 AM and going to work earning my salary. I don't recall having contract negotiations with the US government to get their shill so they can pay for more cruise missiles to bomb a parking lot. Who makes more responsible decisions? Me or the government? You know the answer.

    I'm not sitting on my couch eating Capt'n Crunch in my underpants waiting for Trump to just send me a check.

    Free stuff ...
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  • Go Beavers
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    Jason P said:

    Jason P said:

    doubles the standard deduction for the 99 percenters. that is a pretty huge impact for us (tax payers)

    So more "free stuff" I was hearing about during the election.
    Free stuff??? That is my money that I earned. Getting up 6 AM and going to work earning my salary. I don't recall having contract negotiations with the US government to get their shill so they can pay for more cruise missiles to bomb a parking lot. Who makes more responsible decisions? Me or the government? You know the answer.

    I'm not sitting on my couch eating Capt'n Crunch in my underpants waiting for Trump to just send me a check.

    Free stuff ...
    Combine our deficit spending (meaning we're not paying for what we're buying) and the fact that many more people pay a much larger amount in taxes than any of us pay (that us free loading) is basically the same as free stuff.
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