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Courage! What a joke. You have no principles. The continuation of the Bush Doctrine. Brilliant. You don't know what victory looks like because you haven't seen it in 16 years. Care to describe, "victory?" All and everything for Bibi.BS44325 said:
The end game is victory.josevolution said:
But because bafoon flexed his muscles BS is so proud yet he can't tell us what the end game is for this administration, is it to get rid of Assad or just deflect from his own political problems he has here !Halifax2TheMax said:
You won't get an answer. BS only exists in the moment with never a mind for the future or the past.josevolution said:
Again I ask you how will he get Putin to move aside to get rid of Assad we're waiting?BS44325 said:So it wasn't Kerry and Susan Rice who lied about weapons of mass destruction...it was Syria. Right. Yet the Obama administration wants to convince people that the Iran deal will prevent them from going nuclear....because Iran won't lie.
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Trump said that attacking Syria would start WW3.
good thing y'all didn't vote for the war-monger!By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Hyuk hyukHughFreakingDillon said:Trump said that attacking Syria would start WW3.
good thing y'all didn't vote for the war-monger!
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Not exactly. I have tried to explain this before but it never got that much traction. Most Trump voters new that he was not ideological and that him flipping on something like this was not only possible but even quite likely over time. His voters just want someone who is results driven and will weigh every action one decision at a time. His ability to act without being beholden to a staked out position was seen as a feature not a bug. Some of the alt-right won't be able to accept it but many others will judge as results come in. Many of his voters just want "success".slightofjeff said:A person who voted for Donald Trump voted for a candidate who had no intention of touching Syria.
Three months in, he's launching bombs.
That's the part I don't get. I don't necessarily disagree with the action -- you can argue it was long overdue -- but what I don't get are the Trump supporters celebrating it today. Because you voted against this action last November.0 -
The fracking revolution has reduced the financial angle to this region. It isn't zero but oil ain't what it used to be.HughFreakingDillon said:
no, it's because the US government only goes to war in a certain region, like that's the only place on the planet that has "bad guys" in power and the only ones killing their own citizens.gimme a break. there is ALWAYS a financial/political angle to these acts of aggression.BS44325 said:
Trump won't get rid of Assad. Syrians will get rid of Assad. I am not sure other then hating Trump what your objection to the current policy is though? I get it...if Trump does something you are against it but clearly you must agree that the status quo in Syria is unacceptable? Do you agree? The AMT always wants things both ways. Stop blaming Obama! Trump is now responsible! Trump is shouldering responsibility and takin action?! This is outrageous! What is the end game?!josevolution said:
Again I ask you how will he get Putin to move aside to get rid of Assad we're waiting?BS44325 said:So it wasn't Kerry and Susan Rice who lied about weapons of mass destruction...it was Syria. Right. Yet the Obama administration wants to convince people that the Iran deal will prevent them from going nuclear....because Iran won't lie.
It is a long running joke that any of you have any clarity on what result you actually want to come from a collapsed middle east. Opposition to Bush, Trump, insert Republican name here, is all that drives the AMT. Period. The end.0 -
so trump suddenly has a soft spot for other humans? not believable.BS44325 said:
The fracking revolution has reduced the financial angle to this region. It isn't zero but oil ain't what it used to be.HughFreakingDillon said:
no, it's because the US government only goes to war in a certain region, like that's the only place on the planet that has "bad guys" in power and the only ones killing their own citizens.gimme a break. there is ALWAYS a financial/political angle to these acts of aggression.BS44325 said:
Trump won't get rid of Assad. Syrians will get rid of Assad. I am not sure other then hating Trump what your objection to the current policy is though? I get it...if Trump does something you are against it but clearly you must agree that the status quo in Syria is unacceptable? Do you agree? The AMT always wants things both ways. Stop blaming Obama! Trump is now responsible! Trump is shouldering responsibility and takin action?! This is outrageous! What is the end game?!josevolution said:
Again I ask you how will he get Putin to move aside to get rid of Assad we're waiting?BS44325 said:So it wasn't Kerry and Susan Rice who lied about weapons of mass destruction...it was Syria. Right. Yet the Obama administration wants to convince people that the Iran deal will prevent them from going nuclear....because Iran won't lie.
It is a long running joke that any of you have any clarity on what result you actually want to come from a collapsed middle east. Opposition to Bush, Trump, insert Republican name here, is all that drives the AMT. Period. The end.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
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this is a very nicely dressed up way of saying he has no idea what he's doing and is 100% under the guidance of his advisors.BS44325 said:
Not exactly. I have tried to explain this before but it never got that much traction. Most Trump voters new that he was not ideological and that him flipping on something like this was not only possible but even quite likely over time. His voters just want someone who is results driven and will weigh every action one decision at a time. His ability to act without being beholden to a staked out position was seen as a feature not a bug. Some of the alt-right won't be able to accept it but many others will judge as results come in. Many of his voters just want "success".slightofjeff said:A person who voted for Donald Trump voted for a candidate who had no intention of touching Syria.
Three months in, he's launching bombs.
That's the part I don't get. I don't necessarily disagree with the action -- you can argue it was long overdue -- but what I don't get are the Trump supporters celebrating it today. Because you voted against this action last November.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Somalia and Yemen are useless shit holes so why are waging war there?HughFreakingDillon said:
no, it's because the US government only goes to war in a certain region, like that's the only place on the planet that has "bad guys" in power and the only ones killing their own citizens.gimme a break. there is ALWAYS a financial/political angle to these acts of aggression.BS44325 said:
Trump won't get rid of Assad. Syrians will get rid of Assad. I am not sure other then hating Trump what your objection to the current policy is though? I get it...if Trump does something you are against it but clearly you must agree that the status quo in Syria is unacceptable? Do you agree? The AMT always wants things both ways. Stop blaming Obama! Trump is now responsible! Trump is shouldering responsibility and takin action?! This is outrageous! What is the end game?!josevolution said:
Again I ask you how will he get Putin to move aside to get rid of Assad we're waiting?BS44325 said:So it wasn't Kerry and Susan Rice who lied about weapons of mass destruction...it was Syria. Right. Yet the Obama administration wants to convince people that the Iran deal will prevent them from going nuclear....because Iran won't lie.
It is a long running joke that any of you have any clarity on what result you actually want to come from a collapsed middle east. Opposition to Bush, Trump, insert Republican name here, is all that drives the AMT. Period. The end.Be Excellent To Each OtherParty On, Dudes!0 -
It spiraled out of control before Trump took office...before Obama took office...before Bush took office and things will get worse before even the remote possibility that they might get better.PJ_Soul said:Well, as usual, the distraction is working like a charm. I really don't know what else to say right now. I'm just going to wait and watch what happens next, and hope that people don't take their eye off of all the bullshit that Trump is trying to distract them from. This bunch of idiots don't know wtf they're doing - they are not qualified to try and wage a war or do whatever the fuck they are trying to do. Not in the least. So they are already poised to cause this to spiral completely out of control. I will be surprised if the US (and, unfortunately, many of its allies) is not in a war with Syria and Iran, and maybe even Russia, by summer, if not earlier.
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Unfortuantely I cannot describe victory as all I see is defeat. Defeat is far more likely. The question is whether we try to push back against defeat.Halifax2TheMax said:
Courage! What a joke. You have no principles. The continuation of the Bush Doctrine. Brilliant. You don't know what victory looks like because you haven't seen it in 16 years. Care to describe, "victory?" All and everything for Bibi.BS44325 said:
The end game is victory.josevolution said:
But because bafoon flexed his muscles BS is so proud yet he can't tell us what the end game is for this administration, is it to get rid of Assad or just deflect from his own political problems he has here !Halifax2TheMax said:
You won't get an answer. BS only exists in the moment with never a mind for the future or the past.josevolution said:
Again I ask you how will he get Putin to move aside to get rid of Assad we're waiting?BS44325 said:So it wasn't Kerry and Susan Rice who lied about weapons of mass destruction...it was Syria. Right. Yet the Obama administration wants to convince people that the Iran deal will prevent them from going nuclear....because Iran won't lie.
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lol what a joke Syrians ? Who's left Assad & Putin are systematically murdering any opposition damn dude please tell how America can triumph when Assad has Putin as his bodyguard there is no victory unless the Russians step aside as of now they are not ...BS44325 said:
Trump won't get rid of Assad. Syrians will get rid of Assad. I am not sure other then hating Trump what your objection to the current policy is though? I get it...if Trump does something you are against it but clearly you must agree that the status quo in Syria is unacceptable? Do you agree? The AMT always wants things both ways. Stop blaming Obama! Trump is now responsible! Trump is shouldering responsibility and takin action?! This is outrageous! What is the end game?!josevolution said:
Again I ask you how will he get Putin to move aside to get rid of Assad we're waiting?BS44325 said:So it wasn't Kerry and Susan Rice who lied about weapons of mass destruction...it was Syria. Right. Yet the Obama administration wants to convince people that the Iran deal will prevent them from going nuclear....because Iran won't lie.
It is a long running joke that any of you have any clarity on what result you actually want to come from a collapsed middle east. Opposition to Bush, Trump, insert Republican name here, is all that drives the AMT. Period. The end.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
And even you said it too nicely. He is winging it. Period. How does he decide to strike so quickly when on Tuesday Tillerson says something exactly the opposite. I know the chemical attack was awful, but Assad has been striking his citizens with weapons for several years now. This is not something that is new for him (with all due respect to Polaris's position).HughFreakingDillon said:
this is a very nicely dressed up way of saying he has no idea what he's doing and is 100% under the guidance of his advisors.BS44325 said:
Not exactly. I have tried to explain this before but it never got that much traction. Most Trump voters new that he was not ideological and that him flipping on something like this was not only possible but even quite likely over time. His voters just want someone who is results driven and will weigh every action one decision at a time. His ability to act without being beholden to a staked out position was seen as a feature not a bug. Some of the alt-right won't be able to accept it but many others will judge as results come in. Many of his voters just want "success".slightofjeff said:A person who voted for Donald Trump voted for a candidate who had no intention of touching Syria.
Three months in, he's launching bombs.
That's the part I don't get. I don't necessarily disagree with the action -- you can argue it was long overdue -- but what I don't get are the Trump supporters celebrating it today. Because you voted against this action last November.0 -
the "war" on ISIS.Jason P said:
Somalia and Yemen are useless shit holes so why are waging war there?HughFreakingDillon said:
no, it's because the US government only goes to war in a certain region, like that's the only place on the planet that has "bad guys" in power and the only ones killing their own citizens.gimme a break. there is ALWAYS a financial/political angle to these acts of aggression.BS44325 said:
Trump won't get rid of Assad. Syrians will get rid of Assad. I am not sure other then hating Trump what your objection to the current policy is though? I get it...if Trump does something you are against it but clearly you must agree that the status quo in Syria is unacceptable? Do you agree? The AMT always wants things both ways. Stop blaming Obama! Trump is now responsible! Trump is shouldering responsibility and takin action?! This is outrageous! What is the end game?!josevolution said:
Again I ask you how will he get Putin to move aside to get rid of Assad we're waiting?BS44325 said:So it wasn't Kerry and Susan Rice who lied about weapons of mass destruction...it was Syria. Right. Yet the Obama administration wants to convince people that the Iran deal will prevent them from going nuclear....because Iran won't lie.
It is a long running joke that any of you have any clarity on what result you actually want to come from a collapsed middle east. Opposition to Bush, Trump, insert Republican name here, is all that drives the AMT. Period. The end.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
He wasn't wrong. The only change is that he may have learned that the war is almost inevitable and that maybe the US should engageHughFreakingDillon said:Trump said that attacking Syria would start WW3.
good thing y'all didn't vote for the war-monger!
I always said that he was making it up as he went along during the campaign. I still believe that. I also believe that he had upside capacity to learn. He has made great foreign policy appointments so far that are respected by both sides of the aisles...this is a very strong team...and McMaster ended up being a huge upgrade over Flynn. These are good advisors and he should be listening to them. The massive narcissist with the huge ego is listening to the experts...this is exactly what you should want!HughFreakingDillon said:
this is a very nicely dressed up way of saying he has no idea what he's doing and is 100% under the guidance of his advisors.BS44325 said:
Not exactly. I have tried to explain this before but it never got that much traction. Most Trump voters new that he was not ideological and that him flipping on something like this was not only possible but even quite likely over time. His voters just want someone who is results driven and will weigh every action one decision at a time. His ability to act without being beholden to a staked out position was seen as a feature not a bug. Some of the alt-right won't be able to accept it but many others will judge as results come in. Many of his voters just want "success".slightofjeff said:A person who voted for Donald Trump voted for a candidate who had no intention of touching Syria.
Three months in, he's launching bombs.
That's the part I don't get. I don't necessarily disagree with the action -- you can argue it was long overdue -- but what I don't get are the Trump supporters celebrating it today. Because you voted against this action last November.0 -
President Trump is the man!
Large and in charge, take no shit, grab the low life chemical killers by the nuts and spoon feed them a Tomahawk Missile.
If this deters any other would be cavemen from using chemical weapons on anyone I am all for it.
Baby killer launch pad destroyed! Not Sad!
This shit can't go on anymore people. WW3? Please.
USA is in a position to bomb the shit out of a military base that launches chemical weapons and did so.
Good for you guys and the world thanks you for it.
Bomb their military resources to oblivion.
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There is no guarantee that Russia will step aside but Russia will not step aside unless they think the US is serious. This is a first step in demonstrating resolve. It is not a be all end all and it may accomplish nothing but it is a beginning. You either agree with changing the approach or you accept the status quo Jose. Hatred of Trump is blinding people to the necessity of the policy. There is bipartisan support for what took place last night and I hope Trump goes to congress to cement this support.josevolution said:
lol what a joke Syrians ? Who's left Assad & Putin are systematically murdering any opposition damn dude please tell how America can triumph when Assad has Putin as his bodyguard there is no victory unless the Russians step aside as of now they are not ...BS44325 said:
Trump won't get rid of Assad. Syrians will get rid of Assad. I am not sure other then hating Trump what your objection to the current policy is though? I get it...if Trump does something you are against it but clearly you must agree that the status quo in Syria is unacceptable? Do you agree? The AMT always wants things both ways. Stop blaming Obama! Trump is now responsible! Trump is shouldering responsibility and takin action?! This is outrageous! What is the end game?!josevolution said:
Again I ask you how will he get Putin to move aside to get rid of Assad we're waiting?BS44325 said:So it wasn't Kerry and Susan Rice who lied about weapons of mass destruction...it was Syria. Right. Yet the Obama administration wants to convince people that the Iran deal will prevent them from going nuclear....because Iran won't lie.
It is a long running joke that any of you have any clarity on what result you actually want to come from a collapsed middle east. Opposition to Bush, Trump, insert Republican name here, is all that drives the AMT. Period. The end.0 -
Yea, sure.BS44325 said:
Not exactly. I have tried to explain this before but it never got that much traction. Most Trump voters new that he was not ideological and that him flipping on something like this was not only possible but even quite likely over time. His voters just want someone who is results driven and will weigh every action one decision at a time. His ability to act without being beholden to a staked out position was seen as a feature not a bug. Some of the alt-right won't be able to accept it but many others will judge as results come in. Many of his voters just want "success".slightofjeff said:A person who voted for Donald Trump voted for a candidate who had no intention of touching Syria.
Three months in, he's launching bombs.
That's the part I don't get. I don't necessarily disagree with the action -- you can argue it was long overdue -- but what I don't get are the Trump supporters celebrating it today. Because you voted against this action last November.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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This is a fair criticism but I think the fact that Tillerson was giving Assad a signal that with good behaviour there might be a way for him to remain in power and Assad goes ahead and abuses that signal is a massive slap in the face. It tells Trump that Assad cannot except the slightest of olive branches and should now be hit hard. I think it is fair for the policy to change after the chemical attack.mrussel1 said:
And even you said it too nicely. He is winging it. Period. How does he decide to strike so quickly when on Tuesday Tillerson says something exactly the opposite. I know the chemical attack was awful, but Assad has been striking his citizens with weapons for several years now. This is not something that is new for him (with all due respect to Polaris's position).HughFreakingDillon said:
this is a very nicely dressed up way of saying he has no idea what he's doing and is 100% under the guidance of his advisors.BS44325 said:
Not exactly. I have tried to explain this before but it never got that much traction. Most Trump voters new that he was not ideological and that him flipping on something like this was not only possible but even quite likely over time. His voters just want someone who is results driven and will weigh every action one decision at a time. His ability to act without being beholden to a staked out position was seen as a feature not a bug. Some of the alt-right won't be able to accept it but many others will judge as results come in. Many of his voters just want "success".slightofjeff said:A person who voted for Donald Trump voted for a candidate who had no intention of touching Syria.
Three months in, he's launching bombs.
That's the part I don't get. I don't necessarily disagree with the action -- you can argue it was long overdue -- but what I don't get are the Trump supporters celebrating it today. Because you voted against this action last November.0
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