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  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,055
    law, order and justice are being restored

    Justice is PF debatable.

    Jeff Sessions is not out for JUSTICE (perhaps just-ice), the "Trump Era" as he referred to it, is all about bringing back the war on drugs and rounding up illegals. That's not Justice, that's low hanging fruit back to Mexico or off to for-profit prisons.
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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Alright, who had Afghanistan April 13th in the pool?
    US drops largest non-nuclear bomb in Afghanistan
  • CM189191 said:

    Alright, who had Afghanistan April 13th in the pool?
    US drops largest non-nuclear bomb in Afghanistan

    You guys name your bombs?
    Weird.
    Mother of All Bombs
  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,055
    -build the wall 
    -repeal obamacare 
    -lock her up 
    -defeat isis 
    -defeat China 
    -defund UN 
    -leave NATO 

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    CM189191 said:

    Alright, who had Afghanistan April 13th in the pool?
    US drops largest non-nuclear bomb in Afghanistan

    Since they got nothing substantial done in first 100 days, they are going to make him a war time president (despite running on the exact opposite premise last year) to bolster approval ratings.


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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,085
    Another thing with the Florida trips that I haven't seen get much mention, is that he's directly profiting from expenses to house and feed all the staff he brings along to his resort. What kind of bullshit is that? That wouldn't even fly with your local mayor. And then in the interview he's plugging the beautiful cake he's stuffing his face with when bombing Iraq. Err......I mean Syria.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,525
    PJPOWER said:

    rgambs said:

    PJPOWER said:

    Interesting take on all of the travel by the Chicago Tribune:
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/factcheck/ct-trump-mar-a-lago-cost-20170412-story.html

    Fake news or?

    Some of it is incredibly biased.

    "In December, the group's president, Tom Fitton, said Obama had engaged in "notorious abuse of presidential travel perks" and called on Trump to overhaul presidential travel.

    But with seven Mar-a-Lago visits in less than three months, is Trump guilty of the same thing? Fitton says he doesn't think so but added, "It's not what we expected from him, given his criticism of Obama.""

    That's flat out ridiculous.


    A point that is ignored by people who want to downplay this issue is the taxpayer costs that are saved by local municipalities that aren't incurred when the POTUS (and his family) lives and works at the White House.
    Melania and Baron are costing taxpayers, both federally and locally, millions by living in New York, millions that wouldn't be spent if they lived in the White House where they belong.
    The costs to travel to Florida nearly every weekend are absolutely above and beyond what is reasonable, AND NONE OF THAT EVEN TOUCHES THE FACT THAT HE IS GETTING TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN SELF-ENRICHING ADVERTISEMENT FOR HIS BRAND.

    It is unprecedented and disgusting.
    Hey, I don't disagree with you, all frivolous spending on the taxpayer dime is disgusting. But, the fact that news agencies have been spouting out bogus numbers does not help their credibility much either...especially in a time where the term "fake news" is being thrown out all over the place. There are especially plenty around the AMT that are so blinded by their hate for Trump that they will not question whether or not their favorite news sources are reporting correct information or irresponsibly throwing out inaccurate information because they have not done due fact checking. And those are the same posters that jump on others for sourcing inaccurate information. At least this Chicago Tribune article attempts at a little dissemination, unlike CNN and others that spouted out inaccurate numbers.
    But the fact still remains that all throughout the campaign he kept mentioning how much he would work in WH never have any time to golf like Obama did in 8 yrs ...Hypocrite is an understatement to say the least !
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,763
    edited April 2017

    CM189191 said:

    Alright, who had Afghanistan April 13th in the pool?
    US drops largest non-nuclear bomb in Afghanistan

    You guys name your bombs?
    Weird.
    Mother of All Bombs
    To be clear.....all U.S. military munitions are given a designation (name). Here is the actual name of the munitions dropped in Afghanistan

    GBU-43/B Massive Ordnance Air Blast Bomb, nicknamed MOAB
    Post edited by Bentleyspop on
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927

    CM189191 said:

    Alright, who had Afghanistan April 13th in the pool?
    US drops largest non-nuclear bomb in Afghanistan

    You guys name your bombs?
    Weird.
    Mother of All Bombs
    This is not new, makes war profiteering more marketable
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017

    Great win in Kansas last night for Ron Estes, easily winning the Congressional race against the Dems, who spent heavily & predicted victory!
    Economic confidence is soaring as we unleash the power of private sector job creation and stand up for the American Workers. #AmericaFirst One by one we are keeping our promises - on the border, on energy, on jobs, on regulations. Big changes are happening!
    Jobs are returning, illegal immigration is plummeting, law, order and justice are being restored. We are truly making America great again!

    There is only one true fact in that first sentence.
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  • well, ISIS has been defeated. jolly good, ol' chap.

    #winning

    oh wait, he bombed an empty cave in the desert. my bad.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499

    Another thing with the Florida trips that I haven't seen get much mention, is that he's directly profiting from expenses to house and feed all the staff he brings along to his resort. What kind of bullshit is that? That wouldn't even fly with your local mayor. And then in the interview he's plugging the beautiful cake he's stuffing his face with when bombing Iraq. Err......I mean Syria.

    Wonder if his resort is charging himself and staff all of the resort and lodging fees that a guest would normally rack up at the taxpayers expense. Would be some interesting data. Not defending the dude, but it would be nice to see some expense reports for all presidents, current and past.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    If I fill this out, will I get a nifty score on the bias-o-meter? What was your bias check?
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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Here's a great way to get yourself on Trump's email list and get solicited for funds since he's already registered for 2020.
  • DegeneratefkDegeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    PJPOWER said:

    rgambs said:

    PJPOWER said:

    Interesting take on all of the travel by the Chicago Tribune:
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/factcheck/ct-trump-mar-a-lago-cost-20170412-story.html

    Fake news or?

    Some of it is incredibly biased.

    "In December, the group's president, Tom Fitton, said Obama had engaged in "notorious abuse of presidential travel perks" and called on Trump to overhaul presidential travel.

    But with seven Mar-a-Lago visits in less than three months, is Trump guilty of the same thing? Fitton says he doesn't think so but added, "It's not what we expected from him, given his criticism of Obama.""

    That's flat out ridiculous.


    A point that is ignored by people who want to downplay this issue is the taxpayer costs that are saved by local municipalities that aren't incurred when the POTUS (and his family) lives and works at the White House.
    Melania and Baron are costing taxpayers, both federally and locally, millions by living in New York, millions that wouldn't be spent if they lived in the White House where they belong.
    The costs to travel to Florida nearly every weekend are absolutely above and beyond what is reasonable, AND NONE OF THAT EVEN TOUCHES THE FACT THAT HE IS GETTING TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN SELF-ENRICHING ADVERTISEMENT FOR HIS BRAND.

    It is unprecedented and disgusting.
    Hey, I don't disagree with you, all frivolous spending on the taxpayer dime is disgusting. But, the fact that news agencies have been spouting out bogus numbers does not help their credibility much either...especially in a time where the term "fake news" is being thrown out all over the place. There are especially plenty around the AMT that are so blinded by their hate for Trump that they will not question whether or not their favorite news sources are reporting correct information or irresponsibly throwing out inaccurate information because they have not done due fact checking. And those are the same posters that jump on others for sourcing inaccurate information. At least this Chicago Tribune article attempts at a little dissemination, unlike CNN and others that spouted out inaccurate numbers.
    You're claiming CNN is reporting inaccurate numbers based on one article that is clearly biased and really shows no actual numbers that show what each trip to Florida costs? Seriously? Trump has vacationed more in 3 months than Obama did in 4 years. Plus the cost of his wife and kid living in New York. He's costing the taxpayers way more than Obama ever could have.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017

    PJPOWER said:

    rgambs said:

    PJPOWER said:

    Interesting take on all of the travel by the Chicago Tribune:
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/factcheck/ct-trump-mar-a-lago-cost-20170412-story.html

    Fake news or?

    Some of it is incredibly biased.

    "In December, the group's president, Tom Fitton, said Obama had engaged in "notorious abuse of presidential travel perks" and called on Trump to overhaul presidential travel.

    But with seven Mar-a-Lago visits in less than three months, is Trump guilty of the same thing? Fitton says he doesn't think so but added, "It's not what we expected from him, given his criticism of Obama.""

    That's flat out ridiculous.


    A point that is ignored by people who want to downplay this issue is the taxpayer costs that are saved by local municipalities that aren't incurred when the POTUS (and his family) lives and works at the White House.
    Melania and Baron are costing taxpayers, both federally and locally, millions by living in New York, millions that wouldn't be spent if they lived in the White House where they belong.
    The costs to travel to Florida nearly every weekend are absolutely above and beyond what is reasonable, AND NONE OF THAT EVEN TOUCHES THE FACT THAT HE IS GETTING TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN SELF-ENRICHING ADVERTISEMENT FOR HIS BRAND.

    It is unprecedented and disgusting.
    Hey, I don't disagree with you, all frivolous spending on the taxpayer dime is disgusting. But, the fact that news agencies have been spouting out bogus numbers does not help their credibility much either...especially in a time where the term "fake news" is being thrown out all over the place. There are especially plenty around the AMT that are so blinded by their hate for Trump that they will not question whether or not their favorite news sources are reporting correct information or irresponsibly throwing out inaccurate information because they have not done due fact checking. And those are the same posters that jump on others for sourcing inaccurate information. At least this Chicago Tribune article attempts at a little dissemination, unlike CNN and others that spouted out inaccurate numbers.
    You're claiming CNN is reporting inaccurate numbers based on one article that is clearly biased and really shows no actual numbers that show what each trip to Florida costs? Seriously? Trump has vacationed more in 3 months than Obama did in 4 years. Plus the cost of his wife and kid living in New York. He's costing the taxpayers way more than Obama ever could have.
    So Trump is soliciting feedback to re-invent government, where have we heard that before? Anyway, the White House Travel Office is not listed as one needing reform. I suggest that you just use the "White House" instead and then type in reform of the Travel Office and maybe suggesting eliminating so many golf trips to Trump properties. It might earn you an IRS audit but hey, you only live once.

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  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    But the chocolate cake is supposed to be oh so delicious. Especially after the appetite created by bombing Syria.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited April 2017
    And for the record.
    I really am happy that the mother of all bombs was dropped on those savages.
    Thank you USA
  • well, ISIS has been defeated. jolly good, ol' chap.

    #winning

    oh wait, he bombed an empty cave in the desert. my bad.

    Trump's big bombing campaign ultimately resembles flexing in the mirror.

    The only targets he's killed are his allies.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/04/13/u-s-led-coalition-accidentally-bombs-syrian-allies-killing-18/?utm_term=.ae8953de2e1c
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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761

    And for the record.
    I really am happy that the mother of all bombs was dropped on those savages.
    Thank you USA

    Good God, man. Innocent people died. Yes, bad hombres were killed...but I'm willing to bet my house that more innocent people were killed than those who are guilty in the war on terror. This same president who was so moved by photos of dead, innocent people and children a week ago is creating similar images in another country a week later.
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    well, ISIS has been defeated. jolly good, ol' chap.

    #winning

    oh wait, he bombed an empty cave in the desert. my bad.

    Trump's big bombing campaign ultimately resembles flexing in the mirror.

    The only targets he's killed are his allies.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/04/13/u-s-led-coalition-accidentally-bombs-syrian-allies-killing-18/?utm_term=.ae8953de2e1c
    There needs to be some sort of plan of action on our military involvement and a more specific objective put forward by Trump on where we're headed with all these missile barrages and bomb drops. The unclear and vague statements aren't sufficient.

    The lack of understanding on what it means to fire missiles and drop bombs is sickening. The inability to clearly recall and articulate which country you just attacked is probably the most unacceptable form of human decency I can think of for the president of the US. There is not a more demoralizing act and disregard for human life.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    tbergs said:

    well, ISIS has been defeated. jolly good, ol' chap.

    #winning

    oh wait, he bombed an empty cave in the desert. my bad.

    Trump's big bombing campaign ultimately resembles flexing in the mirror.

    The only targets he's killed are his allies.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/04/13/u-s-led-coalition-accidentally-bombs-syrian-allies-killing-18/?utm_term=.ae8953de2e1c
    There needs to be some sort of plan of action on our military involvement and a more specific objective put forward by Trump on where we're headed with all these missile barrages and bomb drops. The unclear and vague statements aren't sufficient.

    The lack of understanding on what it means to fire missiles and drop bombs is sickening. The inability to clearly recall and articulate which country you just attacked is probably the most unacceptable form of human decency I can think of for the president of the US. There is not a more demoralizing act and disregard for human life.
    So much for being that brilliant shining beacon of light up on the hill, eh?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    Yo! Rest of the world! Especially you Poland and Estonia! You might want to rely upon yourselves or the Brits for your security as it relates to Russia as our NSA is asleep.
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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    tbergs said:

    well, ISIS has been defeated. jolly good, ol' chap.

    #winning

    oh wait, he bombed an empty cave in the desert. my bad.

    Trump's big bombing campaign ultimately resembles flexing in the mirror.

    The only targets he's killed are his allies.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/04/13/u-s-led-coalition-accidentally-bombs-syrian-allies-killing-18/?utm_term=.ae8953de2e1c
    There needs to be some sort of plan of action on our military involvement and a more specific objective put forward by Trump on where we're headed with all these missile barrages and bomb drops. The unclear and vague statements aren't sufficient.

    The lack of understanding on what it means to fire missiles and drop bombs is sickening. The inability to clearly recall and articulate which country you just attacked is probably the most unacceptable form of human decency I can think of for the president of the US. There is not a more demoralizing act and disregard for human life.
    congressional approval would be a good place to start
  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,055
    MOAB

    It took $314 million to develop and has a unit cost of $16 million.
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