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PJ_Soul said:

MeanMr.Mustard said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

MeanMr.Mustard said:

Go Beavers said:

MeanMr.Mustard said:

all this non-sense about Hitler and Trump ? really ?? does building (or should I say finishing) a wall on the Mexican boarder and stopping the flow or flood of immigrants make a Hitler ? Obama and Hillary have "helped" immigrants to the point that it has damaged our country financially and in our security, proof of that is not hard to find.

Then please post the link showing the 'help'.

if I need to do that then there is no point, blind allegiance to the Democratic party or any party for that matter is dangerous, I've voted for different parties throughout my life (voting for the best liar) I never restrict myself to parties.

Lol

So in other words... you can't do it.

do a little homework, how much do we as tax payers spend annually on immigration, medical, housing, incarceration, legal cost, etc. ? I believe it's about $13 billion and thanks to out last president our national debt is almost $20 trillion.
and the security risk ? I can't believe anybody would not know.

The wall will cost more dude.

And people will still tunnel under it

bootlegger10 said:

Shocking to see that ignoring immigration laws has led to unrest and infighting in the country, and even helped elect Donald Trump.

Better money be spent on a wall or security and funding agencies helping speed up the legal immigration process, than just letting anyone come in the country and paying their expenses.

The left failed to compute that the total disregard of laws like in sanctuary cities would eventually piss some people off.

The USA would be a lot better off if the laws on the books were followed and if they need changing, Congress changed them instead of some executive order that gets reversed every 4 to 8 years.

There are less expensive and less destructive ways to handle the issue. I.e. good old fashioned law enforcement. If the trillion dollars that this stupid wall will end up costing were redirected towards other programs aimed at educating and naturalizing productive illegal immigrants and deporting the non-productive ones, that would be money much better spent.

HughFreakingDillon said:

no suprises here:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/27/politics/border-wall-funding-senate-democrats/index.html

Not one red cent for that stupid wall. grrrrr.

bootlegger10 said:

Shocking to see that ignoring immigration laws has led to unrest and infighting in the country, and even helped elect Donald Trump.

Better money be spent on a wall or security and funding agencies helping speed up the legal immigration process, than just letting anyone come in the country and paying their expenses.

The left failed to compute that the total disregard of laws like in sanctuary cities would eventually piss some people off.

The USA would be a lot better off if the laws on the books were followed and if they need changing, Congress changed them instead of some executive order that gets reversed every 4 to 8 years.

What expenses for illegal immigrants are taxpayers paying for?

bootlegger10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

bootlegger10 said:

Shocking to see that ignoring immigration laws has led to unrest and infighting in the country, and even helped elect Donald Trump.

Better money be spent on a wall or security and funding agencies helping speed up the legal immigration process, than just letting anyone come in the country and paying their expenses.

The left failed to compute that the total disregard of laws like in sanctuary cities would eventually piss some people off.

The USA would be a lot better off if the laws on the books were followed and if they need changing, Congress changed them instead of some executive order that gets reversed every 4 to 8 years.

There are less expensive and less destructive ways to handle the issue. I.e. good old fashioned law enforcement. If the trillion dollars that this stupid wall will end up costing were redirected towards other programs aimed at educating and naturalizing productive illegal immigrants and deporting the non-productive ones, that would be money much better spent.

Yeah, putting the money in the right place is fine with me. I think any plan going forward that allows people to break the law and get citizenship is going to lead to discontent to a lot of law abiding citizens.

I guess. I personally feel that many illegal immigrants should be given that chance that some seem to oppose. The majority of illegal immigrants are illegal immigrants because they had the misfortune of being born in places where it is basically impossible to live a life that isn't awful. Most of them are just trying to find a better life for themselves and their families. Someone has to be really desperate to pack up their families (or just go alone) and escape across a border in the middle of a desert in search of a better life. I feel like most of these folk deserve compassion and a helping hand so that they can integrate into American society and benefit the economy, even if they didn't enter legally. If they'd tried to do it legally, it never would have happened. It's not like all of those desperate people could have gone through the proper channels and been allowed in. I know it's breaking the law, but I figure that if I was literally trapped in a life of poverty (or worse) and I saw a way to get my family out of that, I'd consider taking that chance as well. It easy to judge from the comfort of our own lives.
But when it comes to illegal immigrants who then break laws (aside from working for employers who pay them so they can live), I have no tolerance. I think they should have all their assets seized and be deported immediately. I also think that employers who hire illegal immigrants who they can pay slave wages to should lose their businesses and receive a prison term (That includes Trump, lol). If the US would figure out a way for these folks to become naturalized and to be able to work to support themselves through the process, that would be great for America IMO.

Go Beavers said:

bootlegger10 said:

Shocking to see that ignoring immigration laws has led to unrest and infighting in the country, and even helped elect Donald Trump.

Better money be spent on a wall or security and funding agencies helping speed up the legal immigration process, than just letting anyone come in the country and paying their expenses.

The left failed to compute that the total disregard of laws like in sanctuary cities would eventually piss some people off.

The USA would be a lot better off if the laws on the books were followed and if they need changing, Congress changed them instead of some executive order that gets reversed every 4 to 8 years.

What expenses for illegal immigrants are taxpayers paying for?

I dunno, since they also pay taxes. The fact is, illegal immigrants ultimately help the US economy, and getting rid of them would be absolutely disastrous for the US economy. Funny how that never seems to be a topic of conversation.

Merkin Baller said:

Bill Clinton was impeached for telling 1 lie about extra marital activity.






1 lie.

yep. I don't think it will end well for Trumpy.

PJ_Soul said:

Go Beavers said:

bootlegger10 said:

Shocking to see that ignoring immigration laws has led to unrest and infighting in the country, and even helped elect Donald Trump.

Better money be spent on a wall or security and funding agencies helping speed up the legal immigration process, than just letting anyone come in the country and paying their expenses.

The left failed to compute that the total disregard of laws like in sanctuary cities would eventually piss some people off.

The USA would be a lot better off if the laws on the books were followed and if they need changing, Congress changed them instead of some executive order that gets reversed every 4 to 8 years.

What expenses for illegal immigrants are taxpayers paying for?

I dunno, since they also pay taxes. The fact is, illegal immigrants ultimately help the US economy, and getting rid of them would be absolutely disastrous for the US economy. Funny how that never seems to be a topic of conversation.

I am sure they are all paying their taxes and not getting paid in cash.

bootlegger10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Go Beavers said:

bootlegger10 said:

Shocking to see that ignoring immigration laws has led to unrest and infighting in the country, and even helped elect Donald Trump.

Better money be spent on a wall or security and funding agencies helping speed up the legal immigration process, than just letting anyone come in the country and paying their expenses.

The left failed to compute that the total disregard of laws like in sanctuary cities would eventually piss some people off.

The USA would be a lot better off if the laws on the books were followed and if they need changing, Congress changed them instead of some executive order that gets reversed every 4 to 8 years.

What expenses for illegal immigrants are taxpayers paying for?

I dunno, since they also pay taxes. The fact is, illegal immigrants ultimately help the US economy, and getting rid of them would be absolutely disastrous for the US economy. Funny how that never seems to be a topic of conversation.

I am sure they are all paying their taxes and not getting paid in cash.

You mean employers hire illegals? Why isn't this ever a part of the illegal immigration discussion?