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  • BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    This is all im going to say...

    15 out of the 19 Hijackers on 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia... trained and planned from Afghanistan by a Saudi, Bin Laden, who was found in Pakistan....

    and none of those 3 countries are on the ban list

    I believe America will only become stronger from all of this in the long run. I'm a hopeful guy

    I'm no fan of the green card aspect to this but you know that it's Obama's list from the Terrorism Travel Prevention Act of 2015 right?

    This will be litigated and it will be Obama's law that will be used by Trump to defend his actions.
    Keep blaming Obama. Can't defend Trump so blame Obama. As I recall, we already screen immigrants quite thoroughly, particularly from countries with ties to terrorism. I wonder how you'd feel if it were citizens from Israel who were banned? Not that Israel doesn't support terrorist acts or commit acts of terrorism, now does it?
    You are missing the point...as usual. Trump is running the same play over and over again and everybody repeatedly falls for it. He is enforcing the laws on the books as per Obama

    https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/02/18/dhs-announces-further-travel-restrictions-visa-waiver-program

    This then generates a massive freakout...some of which might be justified...and then he comes back with the fact that he is just enforcing current law as established by a democratic administation. This exposes the left as being hypocrites and/or being unserious. I am not blaming Obama here but there was previously a 3 month ban on Iraqi immigrants under his watch and now Trump is advocating for a 6 month ban from Obama selected countries as per the law. If it was acceptable then it will be acceptable now regardless of the outrage.
    Funny, typical BS, your link clearly states, "the new law does not ban travel to the United States." Now, what did Trump do and how is that Obama's list or law? You, Professor, have purposefully missed the point. Fail. Bigly. Or is it Bigley?
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    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    This is all im going to say...

    15 out of the 19 Hijackers on 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia... trained and planned from Afghanistan by a Saudi, Bin Laden, who was found in Pakistan....

    and none of those 3 countries are on the ban list

    I believe America will only become stronger from all of this in the long run. I'm a hopeful guy

    I'm no fan of the green card aspect to this but you know that it's Obama's list from the Terrorism Travel Prevention Act of 2015 right?

    This will be litigated and it will be Obama's law that will be used by Trump to defend his actions.
    Care to link to "Obama's law or list?"
    I posted one above but this guy who is no fan of this refugee ban will break it down for you

    https://sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/28/obamas-administration-made-the-muslim-ban-possible-and-the-media-wont-tell-you/
    Change your name to stretch Armstrong.
    Obama named countries he was concerned with so all of a sudden not letting people in from those countries is his fault?
  • Further, B fucking S, did Obama's law differentiate between muslims and christians from those 7 nations?
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    tbergs said:

    I sit here in my home safe and sound tonight as a 4th generation American. As I read about everything going on today I can't help but feel disappointment, frustration and anger. I work at a College whose population is 60% diverse with some of the biggest majority coming from Somalia and other Muslim affluent countries. Several are refugees and asylee. We work with them on a daily basis helping them to get an education and successfully assimilate in to our culture. I employ over half of my work study positions with students who are 1st generation College students from these countries. Because of them I have learned about the hardships they and their families have gone through in their country and to get to the US.

    Only a white upper class male with no cultural exposure could implement such a completely ludicrous order. This fucker probably doesn't know anyone personally from these countries. As others have stated, how the hell do the countries we've virtually been in some sort of war or conflict with for over the last 20 years avoid his idiotic order? Oh yeah, oil and money. America, land of the paranoid xenophobic racists. The rest of the world is taking note.

    i've never been so disappointed in my country.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    This is all im going to say...

    15 out of the 19 Hijackers on 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia... trained and planned from Afghanistan by a Saudi, Bin Laden, who was found in Pakistan....

    and none of those 3 countries are on the ban list

    I believe America will only become stronger from all of this in the long run. I'm a hopeful guy

    I'm no fan of the green card aspect to this but you know that it's Obama's list from the Terrorism Travel Prevention Act of 2015 right?

    This will be litigated and it will be Obama's law that will be used by Trump to defend his actions.
    Care to link to "Obama's law or list?"
    I posted one above but this guy who is no fan of this refugee ban will break it down for you

    https://sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/28/obamas-administration-made-the-muslim-ban-possible-and-the-media-wont-tell-you/
    Change your name to stretch Armstrong.
    Obama named countries he was concerned with so all of a sudden not letting people in from those countries is his fault?
    I am not talking "fault". You are talking "fault". I am talking where this list of countries came from. They were not pulled out of thin air. DHS was given the authority to enforce the law as per Obama and now under Trump they are doing so.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    This is all im going to say...

    15 out of the 19 Hijackers on 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia... trained and planned from Afghanistan by a Saudi, Bin Laden, who was found in Pakistan....

    and none of those 3 countries are on the ban list

    I believe America will only become stronger from all of this in the long run. I'm a hopeful guy

    I'm no fan of the green card aspect to this but you know that it's Obama's list from the Terrorism Travel Prevention Act of 2015 right?

    This will be litigated and it will be Obama's law that will be used by Trump to defend his actions.
    Keep blaming Obama. Can't defend Trump so blame Obama. As I recall, we already screen immigrants quite thoroughly, particularly from countries with ties to terrorism. I wonder how you'd feel if it were citizens from Israel who were banned? Not that Israel doesn't support terrorist acts or commit acts of terrorism, now does it?
    You are missing the point...as usual. Trump is running the same play over and over again and everybody repeatedly falls for it. He is enforcing the laws on the books as per Obama

    https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/02/18/dhs-announces-further-travel-restrictions-visa-waiver-program

    This then generates a massive freakout...some of which might be justified...and then he comes back with the fact that he is just enforcing current law as established by a democratic administation. This exposes the left as being hypocrites and/or being unserious. I am not blaming Obama here but there was previously a 3 month ban on Iraqi immigrants under his watch and now Trump is advocating for a 6 month ban from Obama selected countries as per the law. If it was acceptable then it will be acceptable now regardless of the outrage.
    Funny, typical BS, your link clearly states, "the new law does not ban travel to the United States." Now, what did Trump do and how is that Obama's list or law? You, Professor, have purposefully missed the point. Fail. Bigly. Or is it Bigley?
    Read on one paragraph more. The assignment requires you to read the whole thing actually.
  • BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    This is all im going to say...

    15 out of the 19 Hijackers on 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia... trained and planned from Afghanistan by a Saudi, Bin Laden, who was found in Pakistan....

    and none of those 3 countries are on the ban list

    I believe America will only become stronger from all of this in the long run. I'm a hopeful guy

    I'm no fan of the green card aspect to this but you know that it's Obama's list from the Terrorism Travel Prevention Act of 2015 right?

    This will be litigated and it will be Obama's law that will be used by Trump to defend his actions.
    Care to link to "Obama's law or list?"
    I posted one above but this guy who is no fan of this refugee ban will break it down for you

    https://sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/28/obamas-administration-made-the-muslim-ban-possible-and-the-media-wont-tell-you/
    I don't need an Israeli apologist hack to break it down for me. A republican bill advocating additional screening measures is not a ban. With active roles from SOS and DHS required and did the various congressional committees with oversight get an official report. Or did Trump just whip out his dick with his small hands?
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    This guy who was held up likes Trump?!



    What is he supposed to say I guess
  • BS44325 said:

    This guy who was held up likes Trump?!



    What is he supposed to say I guess
    When do you call and write your representatives to do the same? Otherwise, we'll need a wall and a moat on our northern border as well. Particularly since we already caught terrorists crossing over with explosives. Thanks for keeping us safe Canada.
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    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    This is all im going to say...

    15 out of the 19 Hijackers on 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia... trained and planned from Afghanistan by a Saudi, Bin Laden, who was found in Pakistan....

    and none of those 3 countries are on the ban list

    I believe America will only become stronger from all of this in the long run. I'm a hopeful guy

    I'm no fan of the green card aspect to this but you know that it's Obama's list from the Terrorism Travel Prevention Act of 2015 right?

    This will be litigated and it will be Obama's law that will be used by Trump to defend his actions.
    Care to link to "Obama's law or list?"
    I posted one above but this guy who is no fan of this refugee ban will break it down for you

    https://sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/28/obamas-administration-made-the-muslim-ban-possible-and-the-media-wont-tell-you/
    I don't need an Israeli apologist hack to break it down for me. A republican bill advocating additional screening measures is not a ban. With active roles from SOS and DHS required and did the various congressional committees with oversight get an official report. Or did Trump just whip out his dick with his small hands?
    You also sound like Madonna
  • BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    This is all im going to say...

    15 out of the 19 Hijackers on 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia... trained and planned from Afghanistan by a Saudi, Bin Laden, who was found in Pakistan....

    and none of those 3 countries are on the ban list

    I believe America will only become stronger from all of this in the long run. I'm a hopeful guy

    I'm no fan of the green card aspect to this but you know that it's Obama's list from the Terrorism Travel Prevention Act of 2015 right?

    This will be litigated and it will be Obama's law that will be used by Trump to defend his actions.
    Care to link to "Obama's law or list?"
    I posted one above but this guy who is no fan of this refugee ban will break it down for you

    https://sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/28/obamas-administration-made-the-muslim-ban-possible-and-the-media-wont-tell-you/
    I don't need an Israeli apologist hack to break it down for me. A republican bill advocating additional screening measures is not a ban. With active roles from SOS and DHS required and did the various congressional committees with oversight get an official report. Or did Trump just whip out his dick with his small hands?
    You also sound like Madonna
    How so? Is that all you have? That I sound like Madonna?

    Trump, like a virgin, ruining a country for the very first time.........

    Have you no shame BS?
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    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    This is all im going to say...

    15 out of the 19 Hijackers on 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia... trained and planned from Afghanistan by a Saudi, Bin Laden, who was found in Pakistan....

    and none of those 3 countries are on the ban list

    I believe America will only become stronger from all of this in the long run. I'm a hopeful guy

    I'm no fan of the green card aspect to this but you know that it's Obama's list from the Terrorism Travel Prevention Act of 2015 right?

    This will be litigated and it will be Obama's law that will be used by Trump to defend his actions.
    Care to link to "Obama's law or list?"
    I posted one above but this guy who is no fan of this refugee ban will break it down for you

    https://sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/28/obamas-administration-made-the-muslim-ban-possible-and-the-media-wont-tell-you/
    I don't need an Israeli apologist hack to break it down for me. A republican bill advocating additional screening measures is not a ban. With active roles from SOS and DHS required and did the various congressional committees with oversight get an official report. Or did Trump just whip out his dick with his small hands?
    You also sound like Madonna
    How so? Is that all you have? That I sound like Madonna?

    Trump, like a virgin, ruining a country for the very first time.........

    Have you no shame BS?
    LOL! Madonna should have thought of that line last week. That is awesome!
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    This is all im going to say...

    15 out of the 19 Hijackers on 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia... trained and planned from Afghanistan by a Saudi, Bin Laden, who was found in Pakistan....

    and none of those 3 countries are on the ban list

    I believe America will only become stronger from all of this in the long run. I'm a hopeful guy

    I'm no fan of the green card aspect to this but you know that it's Obama's list from the Terrorism Travel Prevention Act of 2015 right?

    This will be litigated and it will be Obama's law that will be used by Trump to defend his actions.
    Care to link to "Obama's law or list?"
    I posted one above but this guy who is no fan of this refugee ban will break it down for you

    https://sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/28/obamas-administration-made-the-muslim-ban-possible-and-the-media-wont-tell-you/
    I don't need an Israeli apologist hack to break it down for me. A republican bill advocating additional screening measures is not a ban. With active roles from SOS and DHS required and did the various congressional committees with oversight get an official report. Or did Trump just whip out his dick with his small hands?
    You also sound like Madonna
    How so? Is that all you have? That I sound like Madonna?

    Trump, like a virgin, ruining a country for the very first time.........

    Have you no shame BS?
    Strike a pose there's nothing to it
  • BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    This is all im going to say...

    15 out of the 19 Hijackers on 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia... trained and planned from Afghanistan by a Saudi, Bin Laden, who was found in Pakistan....

    and none of those 3 countries are on the ban list

    I believe America will only become stronger from all of this in the long run. I'm a hopeful guy

    I'm no fan of the green card aspect to this but you know that it's Obama's list from the Terrorism Travel Prevention Act of 2015 right?

    This will be litigated and it will be Obama's law that will be used by Trump to defend his actions.
    Care to link to "Obama's law or list?"
    I posted one above but this guy who is no fan of this refugee ban will break it down for you

    https://sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/28/obamas-administration-made-the-muslim-ban-possible-and-the-media-wont-tell-you/
    I don't need an Israeli apologist hack to break it down for me. A republican bill advocating additional screening measures is not a ban. With active roles from SOS and DHS required and did the various congressional committees with oversight get an official report. Or did Trump just whip out his dick with his small hands?
    You also sound like Madonna
    How so? Is that all you have? That I sound like Madonna?

    Trump, like a virgin, ruining a country for the very first time.........

    Have you no shame BS?
    Strike a pose there's nothing to it
    You love the war on muslims don't you?
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  • InHiding80InHiding80 Posts: 7,623

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    This is all im going to say...

    15 out of the 19 Hijackers on 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia... trained and planned from Afghanistan by a Saudi, Bin Laden, who was found in Pakistan....

    and none of those 3 countries are on the ban list

    I believe America will only become stronger from all of this in the long run. I'm a hopeful guy

    I'm no fan of the green card aspect to this but you know that it's Obama's list from the Terrorism Travel Prevention Act of 2015 right?

    This will be litigated and it will be Obama's law that will be used by Trump to defend his actions.
    Care to link to "Obama's law or list?"
    I posted one above but this guy who is no fan of this refugee ban will break it down for you

    https://sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/28/obamas-administration-made-the-muslim-ban-possible-and-the-media-wont-tell-you/
    I don't need an Israeli apologist hack to break it down for me. A republican bill advocating additional screening measures is not a ban. With active roles from SOS and DHS required and did the various congressional committees with oversight get an official report. Or did Trump just whip out his dick with his small hands?
    You also sound like Madonna
    How so? Is that all you have? That I sound like Madonna?

    Trump, like a virgin, ruining a country for the very first time.........

    Have you no shame BS?
    Better than Canadian Bieber and Cruz which is what BS and willneverleave sound like.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    This is all im going to say...

    15 out of the 19 Hijackers on 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia... trained and planned from Afghanistan by a Saudi, Bin Laden, who was found in Pakistan....

    and none of those 3 countries are on the ban list

    I believe America will only become stronger from all of this in the long run. I'm a hopeful guy

    I'm no fan of the green card aspect to this but you know that it's Obama's list from the Terrorism Travel Prevention Act of 2015 right?

    This will be litigated and it will be Obama's law that will be used by Trump to defend his actions.
    Care to link to "Obama's law or list?"
    I posted one above but this guy who is no fan of this refugee ban will break it down for you

    https://sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/28/obamas-administration-made-the-muslim-ban-possible-and-the-media-wont-tell-you/
    I don't need an Israeli apologist hack to break it down for me. A republican bill advocating additional screening measures is not a ban. With active roles from SOS and DHS required and did the various congressional committees with oversight get an official report. Or did Trump just whip out his dick with his small hands?
    You also sound like Madonna
    How so? Is that all you have? That I sound like Madonna?

    Trump, like a virgin, ruining a country for the very first time.........

    Have you no shame BS?
    Strike a pose there's nothing to it
    You love the war on muslims don't you?
    No. I want to be where the sun warms the sky. When it's time for fiesta you can watch them go by. Beautiful faces no cares in this world. Where a girl loves a boy and a boy loves a girl.
  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,405
    vaggar99 said:

    tbergs said:

    I sit here in my home safe and sound tonight as a 4th generation American. As I read about everything going on today I can't help but feel disappointment, frustration and anger. I work at a College whose population is 60% diverse with some of the biggest majority coming from Somalia and other Muslim affluent countries. Several are refugees and asylee. We work with them on a daily basis helping them to get an education and successfully assimilate in to our culture. I employ over half of my work study positions with students who are 1st generation College students from these countries. Because of them I have learned about the hardships they and their families have gone through in their country and to get to the US.

    Only a white upper class male with no cultural exposure could implement such a completely ludicrous order. This fucker probably doesn't know anyone personally from these countries. As others have stated, how the hell do the countries we've virtually been in some sort of war or conflict with for over the last 20 years avoid his idiotic order? Oh yeah, oil and money. America, land of the paranoid xenophobic racists. The rest of the world is taking note.

    i've never been so disappointed in my country.
    Same.

    And @tbergs ....great post.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,941
    vaggar99 said:

    Democrats: Trump is a pu$$y grabbing Russian kompramat
    Republicans: Obama is a Muslim from Kenya.

    One of those statements is true.
  • BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    This is all im going to say...

    15 out of the 19 Hijackers on 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia... trained and planned from Afghanistan by a Saudi, Bin Laden, who was found in Pakistan....

    and none of those 3 countries are on the ban list

    I believe America will only become stronger from all of this in the long run. I'm a hopeful guy

    I'm no fan of the green card aspect to this but you know that it's Obama's list from the Terrorism Travel Prevention Act of 2015 right?

    This will be litigated and it will be Obama's law that will be used by Trump to defend his actions.
    Care to link to "Obama's law or list?"
    I posted one above but this guy who is no fan of this refugee ban will break it down for you

    https://sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/28/obamas-administration-made-the-muslim-ban-possible-and-the-media-wont-tell-you/
    I don't need an Israeli apologist hack to break it down for me. A republican bill advocating additional screening measures is not a ban. With active roles from SOS and DHS required and did the various congressional committees with oversight get an official report. Or did Trump just whip out his dick with his small hands?
    You also sound like Madonna
    How so? Is that all you have? That I sound like Madonna?

    Trump, like a virgin, ruining a country for the very first time.........

    Have you no shame BS?
    Strike a pose there's nothing to it
    You love the war on muslims don't you?
    No. I want to be where the sun warms the sky. When it's time for fiesta you can watch them go by. Beautiful faces no cares in this world. Where a girl loves a boy and a boy loves a girl.
    Care to respond to your mistaken and frankly wrong Obama assessment? Or just slather us with more BS?

    Have you no shame BS?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,165
    edited January 2017
    Care to link to Obama's law, BS? Or do you rely upon having it "broken down" for you? Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

    Have you no shame BS?
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,941
    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    For people who are still confused about Trump's support...which is clearly many of you...this should be read end to end. It explains so much.

    http://thefederalist.com/2017/01/23/donald-trump-first-president-turn-postmodernism/

    Looks like the author wasted a lot of time trying to present some sort of clever intellectualism in trump getting elected. Truth is relative? Thet's the stupidest thing I've read in awhile. The conclusion he comes up with is blaming liberals and people being "PC". He makes sweeping conclusions based on pop culture and anecdotal stories. At least the author writes well, to bad they wasted it on presenting their preformed conclusion.
    Bill Maher hit the same points last night


    The PC police are cannibalizing the progressives
    I thought the liberal hollywood elite were the problem, now you're linking an elite because you agree? Picking something you don't like and conservatives don't like an calling it the reason Dems lost isn't the actual reason Dems lost. Bigots complain about people being "PC", but that complaint originates from the person being a bigot. Do you know a liberal who is not a bigot and also not PC? They don't really care if someone else is PC.

  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    This is all im going to say...

    15 out of the 19 Hijackers on 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia... trained and planned from Afghanistan by a Saudi, Bin Laden, who was found in Pakistan....

    and none of those 3 countries are on the ban list

    I believe America will only become stronger from all of this in the long run. I'm a hopeful guy

    I'm no fan of the green card aspect to this but you know that it's Obama's list from the Terrorism Travel Prevention Act of 2015 right?

    This will be litigated and it will be Obama's law that will be used by Trump to defend his actions.
    2011 Iraqi 6 month ban

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2011/07/13/world/middleeast/13baghdad.html


  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited January 2017
    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    This is all im going to say...

    15 out of the 19 Hijackers on 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia... trained and planned from Afghanistan by a Saudi, Bin Laden, who was found in Pakistan....

    and none of those 3 countries are on the ban list

    I believe America will only become stronger from all of this in the long run. I'm a hopeful guy

    I'm no fan of the green card aspect to this but you know that it's Obama's list from the Terrorism Travel Prevention Act of 2015 right?

    This will be litigated and it will be Obama's law that will be used by Trump to defend his actions.
    Care to link to "Obama's law or list?"
    I posted one above but this guy who is no fan of this refugee ban will break it down for you

    https://sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/28/obamas-administration-made-the-muslim-ban-possible-and-the-media-wont-tell-you/
    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1187

    https://www.cbp.gov/travel/international-visitors/visa-waiver-program/visa-waiver-program-improvement-and-terrorist-travel-prevention-act-faq
    Post edited by JC29856 on
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/trump-sets-year-lifetime-lobbying-ban-officials-45115600

    President Donald Trump acted Saturday to fulfill a key portion of his pledge to "drain the swamp" in Washington, banning administration officials from ever lobbying the U.S. on behalf of a foreign government and imposing a separate five-year ban on other lobbying.

    Trump has said individuals who want to aid him in his quest to "Make America Great Again" should focus on the jobs they will be doing to help the American people, not thinking ahead to the future income they could rake in by peddling their influence after serving in government.
  • JC29856 said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/trump-sets-year-lifetime-lobbying-ban-officials-45115600

    President Donald Trump acted Saturday to fulfill a key portion of his pledge to "drain the swamp" in Washington, banning administration officials from ever lobbying the U.S. on behalf of a foreign government and imposing a separate five-year ban on other lobbying.

    Trump has said individuals who want to aid him in his quest to "Make America Great Again" should focus on the jobs they will be doing to help the American people, not thinking ahead to the future income they could rake in by peddling their influence after serving in government.

    Hilarious. What a joke. The swamp has been filled not drained. Did Trump pass a law? Oh wait, did congress pass a law?
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    JC29856 said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/trump-sets-year-lifetime-lobbying-ban-officials-45115600

    President Donald Trump acted Saturday to fulfill a key portion of his pledge to "drain the swamp" in Washington, banning administration officials from ever lobbying the U.S. on behalf of a foreign government and imposing a separate five-year ban on other lobbying.

    Trump has said individuals who want to aid him in his quest to "Make America Great Again" should focus on the jobs they will be doing to help the American people, not thinking ahead to the future income they could rake in by peddling their influence after serving in government.

    Hilarious. What a joke. The swamp has been filled not drained. Did Trump pass a law? Oh wait, did congress pass a law?
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Voter fraud! What voter fraud?

    https://youtu.be/rCldQRaPXwo
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited January 2017

    Care to link to Obama's law, BS? Or do you rely upon having it "broken down" for you? Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

    Have you no shame BS?

    Did Obama pass a law? Oh wait, did congress pass a law?

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/158/text
    Post edited by JC29856 on
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    JC29856 said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    This is all im going to say...

    15 out of the 19 Hijackers on 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia... trained and planned from Afghanistan by a Saudi, Bin Laden, who was found in Pakistan....

    and none of those 3 countries are on the ban list

    I believe America will only become stronger from all of this in the long run. I'm a hopeful guy

    I'm no fan of the green card aspect to this but you know that it's Obama's list from the Terrorism Travel Prevention Act of 2015 right?

    This will be litigated and it will be Obama's law that will be used by Trump to defend his actions.
    2011 Iraqi 6 month ban

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2011/07/13/world/middleeast/13baghdad.html



    As a result of the Kentucky case, the State Department stopped processing Iraq refugees for six months in 2011, federal officials told ABC News – even for many who had heroically helped U.S. forces as interpreters and intelligence assets. One Iraqi who had aided American troops was assassinated before his refugee application could be processed, because of the immigration delays, two U.S. officials said. In 2011, fewer than 10,000 Iraqis were resettled as refugees in the U.S., half the number from the year before, State Department statistics show.
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