Why did Republicans win?

mattsl1983
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Honest question, honest answers.
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  • mattsl1983
    mattsl1983 Posts: 711
    I think this is the more important question not being asked. I'm a republican, I own it, I accept it. I'm honestly curious, do people really think that it was racism, do people really think it was economics, honest opinions accepted. Not looking for debates, take those to the other threads please.
  • mattsl1983
    mattsl1983 Posts: 711
    The saddest thing that can happen, and has happened is people arguing, and not listing. Arguments are good, that's what creates progress. Shutting out the otherside, that's what creates divide. Please, I want to hear from all sides, no name calling, no generalizing. Just honesty. This is what America is founded on. Sucks if your side lost, cool if yours won; but this is why republicans haven't always been in Pierre, just like why democrats haven't either.
  • mattsl1983
    mattsl1983 Posts: 711
    Random auto correct sucks too. I'm sure we can all agree on that..
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,548
    mattsl1983 said:

    I think this is the more important question not being asked. I'm a republican, I own it, I accept it. I'm honestly curious, do people really think that it was racism, do people really think it was economics, honest opinions accepted. Not looking for debates, take those to the other threads please.

    It's a combo of things. The prejudicial policies played to people's fears, and voting for trump could then relieve the fears he played on. His economic policies weren't realistic, but that didn't matter. Someone said trump didn't have policies, just grievances. This is true. Clinton's personality flaws were then exposed by this dynamic. She couldn't appeal to working class midwest people. She couldn't translate her policy to make it resonate with others. And in general, she doesn't make people feel connected to her. There's certain charisma missing. Single issue, anti-abortion Christian fundamentalist voters went through a range of justifications to vote for the guy. Also, minority vote didn't appear to show up for Clinton.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    mattsl1983 said:

    Random auto correct sucks too. I'm sure we can all agree on that..

    I'm still wondering who Pierre is. Sounds like the guy has had a rough go of it......
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    oftenreading said:

    mattsl1983 said:

    Random auto correct sucks too. I'm sure we can all agree on that..

    I'm still wondering who Pierre is. Sounds like the guy has had a rough go of it......
    Shoot. I read that as Pierrot.

    (same difference though, in the end)
  • mattsl1983
    mattsl1983 Posts: 711
    hedonist said:

    oftenreading said:

    mattsl1983 said:

    Random auto correct sucks too. I'm sure we can all agree on that..

    I'm still wondering who Pierre is. Sounds like the guy has had a rough go of it......
    Shoot. I read that as Pierrot.

    (same difference though, in the end)
    That's just a bad dude, best not to bring him up anymore. Kind of like Freddy Krueger, the less him name is spoken, the more teenagers live...
  • mattsl1983
    mattsl1983 Posts: 711
    mattsl1983 said:

    Random auto correct sucks too. I'm sure we can all agree on that..

    Do you honestly think that the predicial policies really played a part in it? Those that voted for trump, there was not a surge in votes from 2012. If anything, and strictly keeping by the numbers, race, or what you describe as predicial votes, were in a steady decline this election cycle. I personally dismis the race or inequality card. But that's me. Sorry already going against my original cause for this thread... you are aloud one rebutle... haha kidding

    I really do think it was a vote against the status quo. Wether that's good or bad with Trump, I'll tell ya I'm rebulican and also wondering; WHAT THE FUCK???

  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,548
    Vote count isn't evidence of racial issues not playing a factor.
  • InHiding80
    InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    That Wasserman Schultz cretin is the reason. She's even more evil than Hillary.
  • mattsl1983
    mattsl1983 Posts: 711
    C'mon y'all. I as a republican stopped speaking up here because I was tired of being bashed by the smarter people. why did the elections fall as they did? Why is Pelosi and the rest of the Democratic Party left to restructure and try to figure out why they lost?
  • mattsl1983
    mattsl1983 Posts: 711
    Go Beavers said:

    Vote count isn't evidence of racial issues not playing a factor.

    Really, compare the numbers. Numbers don't lie.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Because people are tired with the childish antics of the left.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    mattsl1983 said:

    I think this is the more important question not being asked. I'm a republican, I own it, I accept it. I'm honestly curious, do people really think that it was racism, do people really think it was economics, honest opinions accepted. Not looking for debates, take those to the other threads please.

    This is a DEBATE forum.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,587
    unsung said:

    Because people are tired with the childish antics of the left.

    Yes because the right has never acted childish ..
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,410
    josevolution said:

    unsung said:

    Because people are tired with the childish antics of the left.

    Yes because the right has never acted childish ..
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    josevolution said:

    unsung said:

    Because people are tired with the childish antics of the left.

    Yes because the right has never acted childish ..
    Good deflection.

    Keep calling people racist, bigots, haters, etc for supportjng a certain party, keeping destroying private property, keep nominating criminals. It worked out so well for you.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    It was a combo of things....kind of a perfect storm....but to say that Trump didn't intentionally fire up the racist side of the GOP is ignorant. That was his plan and Bannon orchestrated it.
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    But they also got blue collar guys to go against their unions and vote for them. Those clinton trade deals had a lot to do with this.
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,911
    unsung said:

    josevolution said:

    unsung said:

    Because people are tired with the childish antics of the left.

    Yes because the right has never acted childish ..
    Good deflection.

    Keep calling people racist, bigots, haters, etc for supportjng a certain party, keeping destroying private property, keep nominating criminals. It worked out so well for you.
    are you denying the Republican platform is not based on religious fanaticism (creationism, abortion), racism (deport all muslims, etc.), and sexism (planned parenthood, abortion) along with gun fanaticism (oh god they are going to overturn the 2nd amendment...even though not true)? come on.

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