Why did Republicans win?

Go Beavers

mattsl1983 said:

Go Beavers said:

Vote count isn't evidence of racial issues not playing a factor.

Really, compare the numbers. Numbers don't lie.

What numbers are you comparing?

Go Beavers

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjalive21 said:

unsung said:

I mean, safe spaces with hot chocolate and play-doh and puppies, crying areas, not being required to take exams, etc. All because you lost an election.

This country is raising a generation that will ensure our demise.

i agree with you on this sentiment...and i feel "old" (im only 37 for crying out loud) for believing this but seriously i cannot believe what I have seen from the younger generation...seriously safe space, legos, and playdoh? colleges cancelling exams and giving students time off?

every generation bitches and moans about the next generation like a bunch of old kooks on their porch waving their rifles. our parents gen said the same bullshit about our gen, and here we are, engaged, intelligent, and motivated.

Totally. I say this all the time, and it always turns out the next generation is better than the previous.

pjhawks

Go Beavers said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjalive21 said:

unsung said:

I mean, safe spaces with hot chocolate and play-doh and puppies, crying areas, not being required to take exams, etc. All because you lost an election.

This country is raising a generation that will ensure our demise.

i agree with you on this sentiment...and i feel "old" (im only 37 for crying out loud) for believing this but seriously i cannot believe what I have seen from the younger generation...seriously safe space, legos, and playdoh? colleges cancelling exams and giving students time off?

every generation bitches and moans about the next generation like a bunch of old kooks on their porch waving their rifles. our parents gen said the same bullshit about our gen, and here we are, engaged, intelligent, and motivated.

Totally. I say this all the time, and it always turns out the next generation is better than the previous.

mostly our generation (x' s and y's) just elected a sexual predator as President. i have hard time believing we are better than that past and surely not better than the WWII generation. so yea i don't think that is necessarily true.

Free

I think we all know why republicans won. Because middle America identified w/ their candidate over the Dem candidate that in no way appealed to the average American, in fact, she refused to talk but actually hid behind endorsements. She needed Sanders supporters votes yet treated them like garbage. Meanwhile Trump, who's a blatant minority and women hater gets support. Go fucking figure.

They are both 1%ers, protecting their own, only their own. But someone had to lose: and that's the average American.

Free

pjhawks said:

Go Beavers said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjalive21 said:

unsung said:

I mean, safe spaces with hot chocolate and play-doh and puppies, crying areas, not being required to take exams, etc. All because you lost an election.

This country is raising a generation that will ensure our demise.

i agree with you on this sentiment...and i feel "old" (im only 37 for crying out loud) for believing this but seriously i cannot believe what I have seen from the younger generation...seriously safe space, legos, and playdoh? colleges cancelling exams and giving students time off?

every generation bitches and moans about the next generation like a bunch of old kooks on their porch waving their rifles. our parents gen said the same bullshit about our gen, and here we are, engaged, intelligent, and motivated.

Totally. I say this all the time, and it always turns out the next generation is better than the previous.

mostly our generation (x' s and y's) just elected a sexual predator as President. i have hard time believing we are better than that past and surely not better than the WWII generation. so yea i don't think that is necessarily true.

Agreed. Not true.

Go Beavers

pjhawks said:

Go Beavers said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjalive21 said:

unsung said:

I mean, safe spaces with hot chocolate and play-doh and puppies, crying areas, not being required to take exams, etc. All because you lost an election.

This country is raising a generation that will ensure our demise.

i agree with you on this sentiment...and i feel "old" (im only 37 for crying out loud) for believing this but seriously i cannot believe what I have seen from the younger generation...seriously safe space, legos, and playdoh? colleges cancelling exams and giving students time off?

every generation bitches and moans about the next generation like a bunch of old kooks on their porch waving their rifles. our parents gen said the same bullshit about our gen, and here we are, engaged, intelligent, and motivated.

Totally. I say this all the time, and it always turns out the next generation is better than the previous.

mostly our generation (x' s and y's) just elected a sexual predator as President. i have hard time believing we are better than that past and surely not better than the WWII generation. so yea i don't think that is necessarily true.

What numbers are you looking at? Only 37% of young voters went with trump. Old people always vote republican. It's harsh, but I'm looking forward to gradually fewer republicans in office as those old people die off.

Gern Blansten

unsung said:

Gern Blansten said:

unsung said:

Gern Blansten said:

unsung said:

Yep, it is hard to believe that she couldn't beat him. Guess America thinks less of her than they do him.

She lost. Move on.

False....she won the popular vote by 1,000,000+. They definitely think less of him.

Who is getting sworn in January 20th?

holy christ are you one of those that can't grasp the logic too?

She won the popular vote. That means MORE people voted for her than Trump. That means it doesn't make sense to say that America thinks less of her than Trump since MORE people voted for her.

Thankfully we are not a democracy.

Doesn't matter...she got more votes therefore it isn't logical to say that more people preferred Trump.

Free

Gern Blansten said:

unsung said:

Gern Blansten said:

unsung said:

Gern Blansten said:

unsung said:

Yep, it is hard to believe that she couldn't beat him. Guess America thinks less of her than they do him.

She lost. Move on.

False....she won the popular vote by 1,000,000+. They definitely think less of him.

Who is getting sworn in January 20th?

holy christ are you one of those that can't grasp the logic too?

She won the popular vote. That means MORE people voted for her than Trump. That means it doesn't make sense to say that America thinks less of her than Trump since MORE people voted for her.

Thankfully we are not a democracy.

Doesn't matter...she got more votes therefore it isn't logical to say that more people preferred Trump.

But she's not our president.

benjs

If anyone's interested, Glenn Greenwald has some good points here. As always, some will agree, others will disagree.

https://theintercept.com/2016/11/09/democrats-trump-and-the-ongoing-dangerous-refusal-to-learn-the-lesson-of-brexit/

Gern Blansten

Free said:

Gern Blansten said:

unsung said:

Gern Blansten said:

unsung said:

Gern Blansten said:

unsung said:

Yep, it is hard to believe that she couldn't beat him. Guess America thinks less of her than they do him.

She lost. Move on.

False....she won the popular vote by 1,000,000+. They definitely think less of him.

Who is getting sworn in January 20th?

holy christ are you one of those that can't grasp the logic too?

She won the popular vote. That means MORE people voted for her than Trump. That means it doesn't make sense to say that America thinks less of her than Trump since MORE people voted for her.

Thankfully we are not a democracy.

Doesn't matter...she got more votes therefore it isn't logical to say that more people preferred Trump.

But she's not our president.

Doesn't matter...she got more votes therefore it isn't logical to say that more people preferred Trump.

I'll just keep saying that until it sinks in.

Free

Gern Blansten said:

Free said:

Gern Blansten said:

unsung said:

Gern Blansten said:

unsung said:

Gern Blansten said:

unsung said:

Yep, it is hard to believe that she couldn't beat him. Guess America thinks less of her than they do him.

She lost. Move on.

False....she won the popular vote by 1,000,000+. They definitely think less of him.

Who is getting sworn in January 20th?

holy christ are you one of those that can't grasp the logic too?

She won the popular vote. That means MORE people voted for her than Trump. That means it doesn't make sense to say that America thinks less of her than Trump since MORE people voted for her.

Thankfully we are not a democracy.

Doesn't matter...she got more votes therefore it isn't logical to say that more people preferred Trump.

But she's not our president.

Doesn't matter...she got more votes therefore it isn't logical to say that more people preferred Trump.

I'll just keep saying that until it sinks in.

Again, this was the two most unpopular candidates in US history. Thousands of people left the presidential choice blank on their ballot, many of these voters living in Michigan, where nothing is being done about the water crisis.

People preferred neither.

oftenreading

Go Beavers said:

pjhawks said:

Go Beavers said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjalive21 said:

unsung said:

I mean, safe spaces with hot chocolate and play-doh and puppies, crying areas, not being required to take exams, etc. All because you lost an election.

This country is raising a generation that will ensure our demise.

i agree with you on this sentiment...and i feel "old" (im only 37 for crying out loud) for believing this but seriously i cannot believe what I have seen from the younger generation...seriously safe space, legos, and playdoh? colleges cancelling exams and giving students time off?

every generation bitches and moans about the next generation like a bunch of old kooks on their porch waving their rifles. our parents gen said the same bullshit about our gen, and here we are, engaged, intelligent, and motivated.

Totally. I say this all the time, and it always turns out the next generation is better than the previous.

mostly our generation (x' s and y's) just elected a sexual predator as President. i have hard time believing we are better than that past and surely not better than the WWII generation. so yea i don't think that is necessarily true.

What numbers are you looking at? Only 37% of young voters went with trump. Old people always vote republican. It's harsh, but I'm looking forward to gradually fewer republicans in office as those old people die off.

Sadly, time marches on and eventually you and I will be those old people. There's always a new crop of old people coming up, and yes, a higher proportion of them will vote for more conservative platforms and a higher proportion of the younger people will vote for more liberal platforms. It's simply the way of the world.

Free

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S8gyNRqIp5U

pjhawks

Go Beavers said:

pjhawks said:

Go Beavers said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjalive21 said:

unsung said:

I mean, safe spaces with hot chocolate and play-doh and puppies, crying areas, not being required to take exams, etc. All because you lost an election.

This country is raising a generation that will ensure our demise.

i agree with you on this sentiment...and i feel "old" (im only 37 for crying out loud) for believing this but seriously i cannot believe what I have seen from the younger generation...seriously safe space, legos, and playdoh? colleges cancelling exams and giving students time off?

every generation bitches and moans about the next generation like a bunch of old kooks on their porch waving their rifles. our parents gen said the same bullshit about our gen, and here we are, engaged, intelligent, and motivated.

Totally. I say this all the time, and it always turns out the next generation is better than the previous.

mostly our generation (x' s and y's) just elected a sexual predator as President. i have hard time believing we are better than that past and surely not better than the WWII generation. so yea i don't think that is necessarily true.

What numbers are you looking at? Only 37% of young voters went with trump. Old people always vote republican. It's harsh, but I'm looking forward to gradually fewer republicans in office as those old people die off.

i don't consider Gen X and Gen Y (well maybe some Gen Y at end of spectrum) as young voters. Gen X surely isn't young.

HughFreakingDillon

pjhawks said:

Go Beavers said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjalive21 said:

unsung said:

I mean, safe spaces with hot chocolate and play-doh and puppies, crying areas, not being required to take exams, etc. All because you lost an election.

This country is raising a generation that will ensure our demise.

i agree with you on this sentiment...and i feel "old" (im only 37 for crying out loud) for believing this but seriously i cannot believe what I have seen from the younger generation...seriously safe space, legos, and playdoh? colleges cancelling exams and giving students time off?

every generation bitches and moans about the next generation like a bunch of old kooks on their porch waving their rifles. our parents gen said the same bullshit about our gen, and here we are, engaged, intelligent, and motivated.

Totally. I say this all the time, and it always turns out the next generation is better than the previous.

mostly our generation (x' s and y's) just elected a sexual predator as President. i have hard time believing we are better than that past and surely not better than the WWII generation. so yea i don't think that is necessarily true.

I don't think you can base which generation is better than which on one criterion.

Bentleyspop

Free said:

tweedyfanjen said:

Bentleyspop said:

tweedyfanjen said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mattsl1983 said:

Honest question, honest answers.

fear and change. nothing more, nothing less.

I wonder if sarah palin will call it "all that feary changy stuff" in a few years.

Can't wait to see what cabinet position Palin is given.

Secretary of Defense

Well she is pretty close to Russia so that would be a plus.

Maybe she would know exactly how Russia is to blame for everything...

Russia?

Thought it was President Obama and The Clintons

pjhawks

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjhawks said:

Go Beavers said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjalive21 said:

unsung said:

I mean, safe spaces with hot chocolate and play-doh and puppies, crying areas, not being required to take exams, etc. All because you lost an election.

This country is raising a generation that will ensure our demise.

i agree with you on this sentiment...and i feel "old" (im only 37 for crying out loud) for believing this but seriously i cannot believe what I have seen from the younger generation...seriously safe space, legos, and playdoh? colleges cancelling exams and giving students time off?

every generation bitches and moans about the next generation like a bunch of old kooks on their porch waving their rifles. our parents gen said the same bullshit about our gen, and here we are, engaged, intelligent, and motivated.

Totally. I say this all the time, and it always turns out the next generation is better than the previous.

mostly our generation (x' s and y's) just elected a sexual predator as President. i have hard time believing we are better than that past and surely not better than the WWII generation. so yea i don't think that is necessarily true.

I don't think you can base which generation is better than which on one criterion.

yea after i posted that i kind of thought about that. obviously there are many social issues i think our generation has come along with from previous generations, and this generation is even better on those issues.

vaggar99

basically Trump had the excitement all the way. Vagina-gate put a stop to that. Everyone expected it to be over at that point. And that's when the Dems went to sleep. Very simple. Very much like watching so many heartbreaking football and basketball games.

Go Beavers

pjhawks said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjhawks said:

Go Beavers said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjalive21 said:

unsung said:

I mean, safe spaces with hot chocolate and play-doh and puppies, crying areas, not being required to take exams, etc. All because you lost an election.

This country is raising a generation that will ensure our demise.

i agree with you on this sentiment...and i feel "old" (im only 37 for crying out loud) for believing this but seriously i cannot believe what I have seen from the younger generation...seriously safe space, legos, and playdoh? colleges cancelling exams and giving students time off?

every generation bitches and moans about the next generation like a bunch of old kooks on their porch waving their rifles. our parents gen said the same bullshit about our gen, and here we are, engaged, intelligent, and motivated.

Totally. I say this all the time, and it always turns out the next generation is better than the previous.

mostly our generation (x' s and y's) just elected a sexual predator as President. i have hard time believing we are better than that past and surely not better than the WWII generation. so yea i don't think that is necessarily true.

I don't think you can base which generation is better than which on one criterion.

yea after i posted that i kind of thought about that. obviously there are many social issues i think our generation has come along with from previous generations, and this generation is even better on those issues.

The next generation is always smarter and more knowledgable than the one before it. They're also more inventive.

Go Beavers

pjhawks said:

Go Beavers said:

pjhawks said:

Go Beavers said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjalive21 said:

unsung said:

I mean, safe spaces with hot chocolate and play-doh and puppies, crying areas, not being required to take exams, etc. All because you lost an election.

This country is raising a generation that will ensure our demise.

i agree with you on this sentiment...and i feel "old" (im only 37 for crying out loud) for believing this but seriously i cannot believe what I have seen from the younger generation...seriously safe space, legos, and playdoh? colleges cancelling exams and giving students time off?

every generation bitches and moans about the next generation like a bunch of old kooks on their porch waving their rifles. our parents gen said the same bullshit about our gen, and here we are, engaged, intelligent, and motivated.

Totally. I say this all the time, and it always turns out the next generation is better than the previous.

mostly our generation (x' s and y's) just elected a sexual predator as President. i have hard time believing we are better than that past and surely not better than the WWII generation. so yea i don't think that is necessarily true.

What numbers are you looking at? Only 37% of young voters went with trump. Old people always vote republican. It's harsh, but I'm looking forward to gradually fewer republicans in office as those old people die off.

i don't consider Gen X and Gen Y (well maybe some Gen Y at end of spectrum) as young voters. Gen X surely isn't young.

Gen Y just got morphed into melennials. They voted for Clinton by a large margin. There's still a significant conservative bump with gen x who had their brains warped during the Reagan years.