Why did Republicans win?

unsung

A very small minority believes that.

Would your social programs exist without taxpayer subsidies? That is why I am against them.

unsung

And really the left is just as obsessed with guns, if not more.

pjhawks

unsung said:

A very small minority believes that.

Would your social programs exist without taxpayer subsidies? That is why I am against them.

i am no way saying i agree with the democratic platform fully either but to deny those things in the Republican party, and for sure at the top, is just plain blind or crazy. I mean the whole Trump campaign was based on those things.

and the republicans won because their base got out an voted to the same level as before. while the democrats got less. having the Republican nominee be an admitted sexual predator i thought would eliminate enough republicans from voting for the guy but i was wrong. apparently to some party outweighs human decency. i still can't fathom that 60 million people voted for such a scumbag. hard to believe harry.

Gern Blansten

unsung said:

And really the left is just as obsessed with guns, if not more.

Disagree...the right is obsessed with saying the left is obsessed. The left just wants stronger background checks and limits on assault weapons.

unsung

Yep, it is hard to believe that she couldn't beat him. Guess America thinks less of her than they do him.

She lost. Move on.

Gern Blansten

unsung said:

But they also got blue collar guys to go against their unions and vote for them. Those clinton trade deals had a lot to do with this.

Yes they did. It was definitely a change election and that segment didn't feel like they had anything to lose.

Jason P

I think a lot of people took it for granted that Trump would lose and didn't vote. Simple as that.

pjhawks

unsung said:

Yep, it is hard to believe that she couldn't beat him. Guess America thinks less of her than they do him.

She lost. Move on.

i have moved on. i fully get in a democratic society that sometimes your candidate loses. i was just responding to the thread and your comment regarding the republican base. i'm not sure how you can deny what their platform is.

JimmyV

There is a long list of things that contributed to his win and her loss. Racism is one of them. Sexism, too. Also Comey and WikiLeaks. The spike in Obamacare premiums. All of those played a role, but none of them were the primary reason.

The big one is that she was a bad candidate who ran a bad campaign. She came to believe, like many of us, that she had it wrapped up as soon as Trump was nominated. So she took her foot off the gas in places like Michigan and Wisconsin while at the same time trying to run up the score with women in places like Arizona.

I understand the strategy but it failed in the most spectacular fashion we have ever seen. Al Gore had a legitimate gripe with the Electoral College because it came down to a single contested state. Hillary Clinton has no such gripe. She is going to win the popular vote buy 1.2 million votes at least AND she is going to get wiped out in the Electoral College. That is almost impossible to do, and it is an absolute indictment of her, her campaign, and their strategy and decision making.

Trump was not inevitable or unavoidable. A more competent Democratic candidate and campaign would have beaten him.

unsung

I could say that the left is what remains after the morale decay and that their rioters are paid by a foreign entity and that their entire policy can only be upheld through the use of force (guns that you so claim to hate) because nobody would ever do it voluntarily.

Oh wait, I have. "Racism" is STILL chosen by American as a lesser evil. The country would rather be called a racist (even if they are not) by a wacko leftist than be an actual leftist or be forced to follow leftist policies.

pjalive21

mattsl1983 said:

mattsl1983 said:

Random auto correct sucks too. I'm sure we can all agree on that..

Do you honestly think that the predicial policies really played a part in it? Those that voted for trump, there was not a surge in votes from 2012. If anything, and strictly keeping by the numbers, race, or what you describe as predicial votes, were in a steady decline this election cycle. I personally dismis the race or inequality card. But that's me. Sorry already going against my original cause for this thread... you are aloud one rebutle... haha kidding

I really do think it was a vote against the status quo. Wether that's good or bad with Trump, I'll tell ya I'm rebulican and also wondering; WHAT THE FUCK???

as I have admitted I voted for Trump, but i always sit here and think someone like him got to be president before someone like Rand Paul amongst others and i just shake my head

unsung

I mean, safe spaces with hot chocolate and play-doh and puppies, crying areas, not being required to take exams, etc. All because you lost an election.

This country is raising a generation that will ensure our demise.

Gern Blansten

unsung said:

Yep, it is hard to believe that she couldn't beat him. Guess America thinks less of her than they do him.

She lost. Move on.

False....she won the popular vote by 1,000,000+. They definitely think less of him.

unsung

Gern Blansten said:

unsung said:

Yep, it is hard to believe that she couldn't beat him. Guess America thinks less of her than they do him.

She lost. Move on.

False....she won the popular vote by 1,000,000+. They definitely think less of him.

Who is getting sworn in January 20th?

JimmyV

Almost 1.4 million as of this morning.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/133Eb4qQmOxNvtesw2hdVns073R68EZx4SfCnP4IGQf8/htmlview?sle=true#gid=19

pjalive21

unsung said:

I mean, safe spaces with hot chocolate and play-doh and puppies, crying areas, not being required to take exams, etc. All because you lost an election.

This country is raising a generation that will ensure our demise.

i agree with you on this sentiment...and i feel "old" (im only 37 for crying out loud) for believing this but seriously i cannot believe what I have seen from the younger generation...seriously safe space, legos, and playdoh? colleges cancelling exams and giving students time off?

HughFreakingDillon

mattsl1983 said:

Honest question, honest answers.

fear and change. nothing more, nothing less.

I wonder if sarah palin will call it "all that feary changy stuff" in a few years.

unsung

JimmyV said:

Almost 1.4 million as of this morning.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/133Eb4qQmOxNvtesw2hdVns073R68EZx4SfCnP4IGQf8/htmlview?sle=true#gid=19

Thankfully big cities don't decide for the entire country.

Remember when Clinton told everyone last Monday to accept the results of the election?

unsung

pjalive21 said:

unsung said:

I mean, safe spaces with hot chocolate and play-doh and puppies, crying areas, not being required to take exams, etc. All because you lost an election.

This country is raising a generation that will ensure our demise.

i agree with you on this sentiment...and i feel "old" (im only 37 for crying out loud) for believing this but seriously i cannot believe what I have seen from the younger generation...seriously safe space, legos, and playdoh? colleges cancelling exams and giving students time off?

Nothing but a bunch of crybabies. Our future is doomed.

HughFreakingDillon

pjalive21 said:

unsung said:

I mean, safe spaces with hot chocolate and play-doh and puppies, crying areas, not being required to take exams, etc. All because you lost an election.

This country is raising a generation that will ensure our demise.

i agree with you on this sentiment...and i feel "old" (im only 37 for crying out loud) for believing this but seriously i cannot believe what I have seen from the younger generation...seriously safe space, legos, and playdoh? colleges cancelling exams and giving students time off?

every generation bitches and moans about the next generation like a bunch of old kooks on their porch waving their rifles. our parents gen said the same bullshit about our gen, and here we are, engaged, intelligent, and motivated.