Only 2 Drummers Get In? RnRHOF. Merged

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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,764
    I believe most of PJ's former drummers were in at least 2 successful bands or had steady work. Except for Dave A. Is there a reason. I mean he has a section of the population that loves him. You would think some band would want to tap into that market?
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  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    edited October 2016
    In the 22 yrs since its clear that his time in PJ means way more to us than it does to the four guys. We got the end product. They lived it and it obviously wasnt always a fun time. Im sure Eddie and whoever else doesnt want to share the stage with him and thats fine. We all lose friends/coworkers under bad circumstances and dont care to ever see them again

    To the fans hes the guy we knew from the explosion. From unplugged and the award shows. Etc. fan friendly guy to the max which is why hes still so liked around here.

    It is what it is. I think he deserves his trophy but when has the Rock hall ever made much sense? Im sure its a relief to the band. Its nostalgia for me and nothing more
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,184
    JB128716 said:

    nicknyr15 said:

    I can't believe people even care about Dave A getting in. He's nothing. Not a good song writer and an average drummer at best. He could NEVER play the shows we've come to expect from PJ now. NEVER.

    He wrote Go.

    I like Go.

    Go is better than any song I've ever written.
    He wrote one song lol. that one song was originally written on an acoustic but then obviously used with electric guitars.
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  • I am surprised that they went this route, considering Vedder's friendship with Jack Irons.

    Here is my theory – they are using only using Pearl Jam's first drummer. It's just so happens that they have two first drummers. Yes, Krusen was the first official drummer, appearing on Ten and performing with them their first year as a band – but Cameron was there for the original demo of the band. The same demo tape that landed in Vedder's hands.

    This may sound like a crazy theory, but it is my best attempt at providing logic to the band's decision. At the end of the day, its really their business, not ours.
  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    Nobody cares more about drummers than PJ fans.

    Nobody

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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,764

    I am surprised that they went this route, considering Vedder's friendship with Jack Irons.

    Here is my theory – they are using only using Pearl Jam's first drummer. It's just so happens that they have two first drummers. Yes, Krusen was the first official drummer, appearing on Ten and performing with them their first year as a band – but Cameron was there for the original demo of the band. The same demo tape that landed in Vedder's hands.

    This may sound like a crazy theory, but it is my best attempt at providing logic to the band's decision. At the end of the day, its really their business, not ours.

    the Hall decides not the band
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    edited October 2016
    RKCNDY said:

    if Krusen is inducted since he is a 'founding member', then why was Chad Channing excluded when Nirvana was inducted?

    Hopefully PJ will be gracious and mention the other drummers not included.

    Great point about Chad Canning, but the RRHOF has always made 'curious' decisions. The inclusion of Krusen over DA or JI doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me either, but whatever.

    I'll be shocked if no one gives a shout out to Dave & Jack. I would expect at least a couple of the guys to mention & thank them.
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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462

    RKCNDY said:

    if Krusen is inducted since he is a 'founding member', then why was Chad Channing excluded when Nirvana was inducted?

    Hopefully PJ will be gracious and mention the other drummers not included.

    Great point about Chad Canning, but the RRHOF has always made 'curious' decisions. The inclusion of Krusen over DA or JI doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me either, but whatever.

    I'll be shocked if no one gives a shout out to Dave & Jack. I would expect at least a couple of the guys to mention & thank them.
    Surely a mention. Probably by Mike.
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,764

    RKCNDY said:

    if Krusen is inducted since he is a 'founding member', then why was Chad Channing excluded when Nirvana was inducted?

    Hopefully PJ will be gracious and mention the other drummers not included.

    Great point about Chad Canning, but the RRHOF has always made 'curious' decisions. The inclusion of Krusen over DA or JI doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me either, but whatever.

    I'll be shocked if no one gives a shout out to Dave & Jack. I would expect at least a couple of the guys to mention & thank them.
    Dave Krusen played on their best selling album. Chad Canning left before they hit it big.
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  • primussucks
    primussucks Posts: 2,365
    #Alldrummersmatter
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  • nalyd61
    nalyd61 Boston Posts: 734
    Well I'm sure the band will appreciate him taking to social media. I like him but thats lame- if that was really him.....
  • Dr. Delight
    Dr. Delight Posts: 11,210

    "pearl jam better invite dave and jack"


    Or what?

    You won't renew your 10c membership?

    You'll stop listening?

    What are you going to do if they don't invite Dave and Jack?

    :lol:
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  • igotid88 said:

    I believe most of PJ's former drummers were in at least 2 successful bands or had steady work. Except for Dave A. Is there a reason. I mean he has a section of the population that loves him. You would think some band would want to tap into that market?

    He played on some GnR demoes.

    But I don't think the fact that he moved home and worked on smaller scale stuff instead of jumping into another big band says anything.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • RKCNDY said:

    if Krusen is inducted since he is a 'founding member', then why was Chad Channing excluded when Nirvana was inducted?

    Hopefully PJ will be gracious and mention the other drummers not included.

    Great point about Chad Canning, but the RRHOF has always made 'curious' decisions. The inclusion of Krusen over DA or JI doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me either, but whatever.

    I'll be shocked if no one gives a shout out to Dave & Jack. I would expect at least a couple of the guys to mention & thank them.
    Surely a mention. Probably by Mike.
    Eddie couldn't even get Dave A's surname right when they played Angel this summer... I doubt it.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Pap
    Pap Serres, Greece Posts: 30,147
    TJ25487 said:

    Don't forget Boommmmmm!!!!

    :hang_loose:
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  • Pap
    Pap Serres, Greece Posts: 30,147

    Ok somebody make a poll

    Done! :smile:
    Athens 2006 / Milton Keynes 2014 / London 1&2 2022 / Seattle 1&2 2024 / Dublin 2024 / Manchester 2024 / New Orleans 2025
  • I think an argument can be made that Krusten's the original drummer, Cameron is THE drummer, and Dave A. and Jack were just temporary fill-in drummers. The "Dave A. was in the band during their height of popularity" argument is a common one to make..but it could have just as well been anyone.
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  • jp307677
    jp307677 Boston Posts: 417
    I can't believe so many people can't get over Dave A. He made no difference to this band whatsoever. Vs and Vitalogy would have happened with or without him. Could anyone really imagine that guy drumming for the guys today? Google him, he looks ridiculous like he's never grown from 1992.
    What about Jack Irons? He is a huge part of this band's evolution....No Code, Yield.
  • Drdeal
    Drdeal Posts: 696
    jp307677 said:

    I can't believe so many people can't get over Dave A. He made no difference to this band whatsoever. Vs and Vitalogy would have happened with or without him. Could anyone really imagine that guy drumming for the guys today? Google him, he looks ridiculous like he's never grown from 1992.
    Dave A is a carnivore and that did not help him gel with PJ. I think they called him the "Burger King". Just sayin.

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