I wish I cared about ANYTHING as much as some people on here care about each of Pearl Jam's drummers, even ones that never played on album, getting into the RnRHOF.
Why would you want to sit in the audience and watch a band you were fired from be inducted into the Hall of Fame?
its not pearl jam's decision that hes not being inducted. as a sign of respect and appreciation for what he contributed to the band they should invite him. and i guarantee he would go.
Does Boom officially contribute to albums or does Brendan do the keyboards? How much does Boom contribute? Love him but...
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Why would you want to sit in the audience and watch a band you were fired from be inducted into the Hall of Fame?
its not pearl jam's decision that hes not being inducted. as a sign of respect and appreciation for what he contributed to the band they should invite him. and i guarantee he would go.
I didn't say anything about him not being inducted. Fact is he was kicked out of the band all those years ago and none of us really know how he feels about that now or how the band feels. You say you guarantee he'd go so I guess you know him personally.
I wish I cared about ANYTHING as much as some people on here care about each of Pearl Jam's drummers, even ones that never played on album, getting into the RnRHOF.
Don't confuse caring with boredom. I think the whole thing is a joke, but it's a good reason for the band to play a few songs live.
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All members who have helped the band to get from point A to the present should get nominated. Who cares if that would be 100 members for some bands (Kiss etc). Every brick that has made up that band should be nominated.
But if not, Dave A should still have gotten fucking nominated. Haha.
First the piss poor PJ20 doc treatment, now this. He deserves better. Haha.
I don't entirely agree. I would say the new members of Kiss didn't help Kiss get to the point they were a band worthy of getting into the RRoH. KISS legacy and career was long since cemented when they joined the band. I would agree with the RRoH that they shouldn't be inducted.
I agree with part of your statement though. If there were members that contributed to that legacy (IE they toured/recorded during the bands seminal albums) then yes they should get inducted (which would be my argument for Dave A.). It seems weird to leave Dave A. off when he contributed to 2/3 of PJ's biggest albums. I think it's different when musicians get added on later in a bands career, after they've already cemented their legend.
RoR Hall of Fame should nominate BANDS not "these members of a band"
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In a change of tradition, the Hall of Fame has announced the individual members of each band that will be honored. Pearl Jam have had five drummers, but only current drummer Matt Cameron and founding member Dave Krusen will be inducted should they make it in
I suspect I'm in the minority, but I agree with that call.
I agree with it too.
Maybe the minority is really the majority. I agree as well.
Dave A. (and Jack) should have absolutely gotten in. Krusen not so much because he quit after the album was recorded, has only one writing credit, and didn't tour the album. With respect to Krusen's contribution, the band thought Krusen's drums "didn't catch the feel" of Even Flow, so they ended up re-recording it with Dave A., anyway. RNRHOF is baffling.
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if Krusen is inducted since he is a 'founding member', then why was Chad Channing excluded when Nirvana was inducted?
Hopefully PJ will be gracious and mention the other drummers not included.
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Why would you want to sit in the audience and watch a band you were fired from be inducted into the Hall of Fame?
its not pearl jam's decision that hes not being inducted. as a sign of respect and appreciation for what he contributed to the band they should invite him. and i guarantee he would go.
I didn't say anything about him not being inducted. Fact is he was kicked out of the band all those years ago and none of us really know how he feels about that now or how the band feels. You say you guarantee he'd go so I guess you know him personally.
dave has had nothing but nice things to say about his time in pearl jam
Dave A. (and Jack) should have absolutely gotten in. Krusen not so much because he quit after the album was recorded, has only one writing credit, and didn't tour the album. With respect to Krusen's contribution, the band thought Krusen's drums "didn't catch the feel" of Even Flow, so they ended up re-recording it with Dave A., anyway. RNRHOF is baffling.
I don't think he quit because he didn't want to be in the band. Wasn't he going to rehab and they couldn't wait for him. Or maybe it was mutual.
Dave A. (and Jack) should have absolutely gotten in. Krusen not so much because he quit after the album was recorded, has only one writing credit, and didn't tour the album. With respect to Krusen's contribution, the band thought Krusen's drums "didn't catch the feel" of Even Flow, so they ended up re-recording it with Dave A., anyway. RNRHOF is baffling.
I don't think he quit because he didn't want to be in the band. Wasn't he going to rehab and they couldn't wait for him. Or maybe it was mutual.
rehab...and he admitted that they gave him a lot of chances to clean up. He's drumming for Candlebox now, so seems like he's doing well.
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Dave A. (and Jack) should have absolutely gotten in. Krusen not so much because he quit after the album was recorded, has only one writing credit, and didn't tour the album. With respect to Krusen's contribution, the band thought Krusen's drums "didn't catch the feel" of Even Flow, so they ended up re-recording it with Dave A., anyway. RNRHOF is baffling.
I don't think he quit because he didn't want to be in the band. Wasn't he going to rehab and they couldn't wait for him. Or maybe it was mutual.
rehab...and he admitted that they gave him a lot of chances to clean up. He's drumming for Candlebox now, so seems like he's doing well.
I believe most of PJ's former drummers were in at least 2 successful bands or had steady work. Except for Dave A. Is there a reason. I mean he has a section of the population that loves him. You would think some band would want to tap into that market?
In the 22 yrs since its clear that his time in PJ means way more to us than it does to the four guys. We got the end product. They lived it and it obviously wasnt always a fun time. Im sure Eddie and whoever else doesnt want to share the stage with him and thats fine. We all lose friends/coworkers under bad circumstances and dont care to ever see them again
To the fans hes the guy we knew from the explosion. From unplugged and the award shows. Etc. fan friendly guy to the max which is why hes still so liked around here.
It is what it is. I think he deserves his trophy but when has the Rock hall ever made much sense? Im sure its a relief to the band. Its nostalgia for me and nothing more
I can't believe people even care about Dave A getting in. He's nothing. Not a good song writer and an average drummer at best. He could NEVER play the shows we've come to expect from PJ now. NEVER.
He wrote Go.
I like Go.
Go is better than any song I've ever written.
He wrote one song lol. that one song was originally written on an acoustic but then obviously used with electric guitars.
I am surprised that they went this route, considering Vedder's friendship with Jack Irons.
Here is my theory – they are using only using Pearl Jam's first drummer. It's just so happens that they have two first drummers. Yes, Krusen was the first official drummer, appearing on Ten and performing with them their first year as a band – but Cameron was there for the original demo of the band. The same demo tape that landed in Vedder's hands.
This may sound like a crazy theory, but it is my best attempt at providing logic to the band's decision. At the end of the day, its really their business, not ours.
I am surprised that they went this route, considering Vedder's friendship with Jack Irons.
Here is my theory – they are using only using Pearl Jam's first drummer. It's just so happens that they have two first drummers. Yes, Krusen was the first official drummer, appearing on Ten and performing with them their first year as a band – but Cameron was there for the original demo of the band. The same demo tape that landed in Vedder's hands.
This may sound like a crazy theory, but it is my best attempt at providing logic to the band's decision. At the end of the day, its really their business, not ours.
if Krusen is inducted since he is a 'founding member', then why was Chad Channing excluded when Nirvana was inducted?
Hopefully PJ will be gracious and mention the other drummers not included.
Great point about Chad Canning, but the RRHOF has always made 'curious' decisions. The inclusion of Krusen over DA or JI doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me either, but whatever.
I'll be shocked if no one gives a shout out to Dave & Jack. I would expect at least a couple of the guys to mention & thank them.
if Krusen is inducted since he is a 'founding member', then why was Chad Channing excluded when Nirvana was inducted?
Hopefully PJ will be gracious and mention the other drummers not included.
Great point about Chad Canning, but the RRHOF has always made 'curious' decisions. The inclusion of Krusen over DA or JI doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me either, but whatever.
I'll be shocked if no one gives a shout out to Dave & Jack. I would expect at least a couple of the guys to mention & thank them.
if Krusen is inducted since he is a 'founding member', then why was Chad Channing excluded when Nirvana was inducted?
Hopefully PJ will be gracious and mention the other drummers not included.
Great point about Chad Canning, but the RRHOF has always made 'curious' decisions. The inclusion of Krusen over DA or JI doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me either, but whatever.
I'll be shocked if no one gives a shout out to Dave & Jack. I would expect at least a couple of the guys to mention & thank them.
Dave Krusen played on their best selling album. Chad Canning left before they hit it big.
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Or what?
You won't renew your 10c membership?
You'll stop listening?
What are you going to do if they don't invite Dave and Jack?
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Hopefully PJ will be gracious and mention the other drummers not included.
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To the fans hes the guy we knew from the explosion. From unplugged and the award shows. Etc. fan friendly guy to the max which is why hes still so liked around here.
It is what it is. I think he deserves his trophy but when has the Rock hall ever made much sense? Im sure its a relief to the band. Its nostalgia for me and nothing more
Here is my theory – they are using only using Pearl Jam's first drummer. It's just so happens that they have two first drummers. Yes, Krusen was the first official drummer, appearing on Ten and performing with them their first year as a band – but Cameron was there for the original demo of the band. The same demo tape that landed in Vedder's hands.
This may sound like a crazy theory, but it is my best attempt at providing logic to the band's decision. At the end of the day, its really their business, not ours.
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I'll be shocked if no one gives a shout out to Dave & Jack. I would expect at least a couple of the guys to mention & thank them.
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