Only 2 Drummers Get In? RnRHOF. Merged

JB128716 · October 2016

my2hands said:
I don't care which drummer does or doesn't get in.... none of these guys would be getting in if they didn't meet Eddie Vedder

Well Matt had some success with a small band called Soundgarden and the rest of the guys did have Mother Love Bone and Temple of the Dog.

And no one is saying Ed shouldn't be included.

Zod · October 2016

bootlegger10 said:
After a couple minutes of thought I think only Matt Cameron should be inducted with them. The other drummers lasted for only a couple years at the most.

Except one of the reasons you get inducted is because you were influential. PJ's most influential albums were the first 3. Matt Cameron (while in the band for a long time now) came in after the era of multiplatinum albums. That would be my argument for Dave A. being there. They're largely being inducted into the RRoH because of how big/influential those first albums were... hence the drummer(s) on them should be looked at for induction. If their first 3 albums had only been as popular as the last 5 (I'm kind of giving middle ground to No Code and Yield) then I doubt they'd be inducted in the first year of eligibility.

lolobugg · October 2016

the Hall is a JOKE

nicknyr15 · October 2016

I can't believe people even care about Dave A getting in. He's nothing. Not a good song writer and an average drummer at best. He could NEVER play the shows we've come to expect from PJ now. NEVER.

lolobugg · October 2016

I think the Green Romance Orchestra will probably get inducted by the veteran's committee.

Caught-A-Bolt-Of-Lightning · October 2016

nicknyr15 said:
I can't believe people even care about Dave A getting in. He's nothing. Not a good song writer and an average drummer at best. He could NEVER play the shows we've come to expect from PJ now. NEVER.

Hm. Interesting.

Ever listened to Vs.? There is no way in HELL that Matt Cameron could have made Vs. what it is....

Well...you know what they say about opinions.....

JB128716 · October 2016

nicknyr15 said:
I can't believe people even care about Dave A getting in. He's nothing. Not a good song writer and an average drummer at best. He could NEVER play the shows we've come to expect from PJ now. NEVER.

He wrote Go.

I like Go.

Go is better than any song I've ever written.

shetellsherself · October 2016

jeffbr said:

MickeyMouse said:

100 Pacer said:

Indifference said:
In a change of tradition, the Hall of Fame has announced the individual members of each band that will be honored. Pearl Jam have had five drummers, but only current drummer Matt Cameron and founding member Dave Krusen will be inducted should they make it in
I suspect I'm in the minority, but I agree with that call.
I agree with it too.
Maybe the minority is really the majority. I agree as well.

Ok somebody make a poll

pjalive21 · October 2016

my2hands said:
I don't care which drummer does or doesn't get in.... none of these guys would be getting in if they didn't meet Eddie Vedder

i unfortunately completely disagree with you...there was a band without EV and if it wasn't for the death of Andrew Wood there would have been no EV

Dr. Delight · October 2016

nicknyr15 said:
I can't believe people even care about Dave A getting in. He's nothing. Not a good song writer and an average drummer at best. He could NEVER play the shows we've come to expect from PJ now. NEVER.

Sure hope this is sarcasm....

nicknyr15 · October 2016

I wholeheartedly disagree with both statements but everyone has an opinion. I think PJ would have been PJ with or without Dave A. I don't think PJ would be whatcthdy are today. It's all about the live shows now. And I truly believe he's an average drummer.

nicknyr15 · October 2016

nicknyr15 said:
I wholeheartedly disagree with both statements but everyone has an opinion. I think PJ would have been PJ with or without Dave A. I don't think PJ would be what they are today without MC. It's all about the live shows now. And I truly believe Dave is an average drummer.

nicknyr15 · October 2016

Sorry fir double edit post

jdesantis1983 · October 2016

These inconsistencies probably have just as much to do with what the inductees dictate/demand as well as the HOF, meaning if PJ wanted Dave A. to be included in this I don't think the HOF would have stopped them. This "new rule" sounds like something utilized after the fact to explain who would be inducted. I don't think there's any issue with the current lineup deciding, it's their call, they're the ones who stuck it out 25 years and got to this point.

lolobugg · October 2016

jdesantis1983 said:
These inconsistencies probably have just as much to do with what the inductees dictate/demand as well as the HOF, meaning if PJ wanted Dave A. to be included in this I don't think the HOF would have stopped them. This "new rule" sounds like something utilized after the fact to explain who would be inducted. I don't think there's any issue with the current lineup deciding, it's their call, they're the ones who stuck it out 25 years and got to this point.

wait, wait, wait, are you saying........(gasp) PJ doesn't want Dave A included in the ceremony?
i think you just nailed it.

Zod · October 2016

Spiritual_Chaos said:
All members who have helped the band to get from point A to the present should get nominated. Who cares if that would be 100 members for some bands (Kiss etc). Every brick that has made up that band should be nominated.

But if not, Dave A should still have gotten fucking nominated. Haha.

First the piss poor PJ20 doc treatment, now this. He deserves better. Haha.

I don't entirely agree. I would say the new members of Kiss didn't help Kiss get to the point they were a band worthy of getting into the RRoH. KISS legacy and career was long since cemented when they joined the band. I would agree with the RRoH that they shouldn't be inducted.

I agree with part of your statement though. If there were members that contributed to that legacy (IE they toured/recorded during the bands seminal albums) then yes they should get inducted (which would be my argument for Dave A.). It seems weird to leave Dave A. off when he contributed to 2/3 of PJ's biggest albums. I think it's different when musicians get added on later in a bands career, after they've already cemented their legend.

JB128716 · October 2016

lolobugg said:

jdesantis1983 said:
These inconsistencies probably have just as much to do with what the inductees dictate/demand as well as the HOF, meaning if PJ wanted Dave A. to be included in this I don't think the HOF would have stopped them. This "new rule" sounds like something utilized after the fact to explain who would be inducted. I don't think there's any issue with the current lineup deciding, it's their call, they're the ones who stuck it out 25 years and got to this point.
wait, wait, wait, are you saying........(gasp) PJ doesn't want Dave A included in the ceremony?
i think you just nailed it.

This may very well be the case and Jack Irons got hosed because of it but it wasn't the case with Kiss a few years back.

We may never know the truth but I still think it should be up to the band.

my2hands · October 2016

pjalive21 said:

my2hands said:
I don't care which drummer does or doesn't get in.... none of these guys would be getting in if they didn't meet Eddie Vedder
i unfortunately completely disagree with you...there was a band without EV and if it wasn't for the death of Andrew Wood there would have been no EV

Great musicians, no question... sad pasding of Andrew Wood, no doubt... my statement is no knock on anybody, or any other bands... but there is no RRHOF induction, or stadium filling 25 year career, without stumbling upon Eddie Vedder... thats not a bad thing, the whole thing just came together somehow for those guys and it was just the right time & place...

For the record, Matt Cameron is the man and it doesn't matter to me what other drummers get "inducted"... he has been the drummer for 19 years come induction time

mrpink90 · October 2016

tweedyfanjen said:
Why would you want to sit in the audience and watch a band you were fired from be inducted into the Hall of Fame?

its not pearl jam's decision that hes not being inducted. as a sign of respect and appreciation for what he contributed to the band they should invite him. and i guarantee he would go.

Attaway77 · October 2016

Matt C and Dave A

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