Hillary won more votes for President
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!Halifax2TheMax said:
Damn, you really hate everyone under the age of 35 don't you? Life for you is going to suck for the remainder, we are the largest age demographic in the nation and you won't be able to keep us all off your lawn!rgambs said:
Gotta source for that diatribe? My god, the poor millenials? The tatted, pierced,boom boom stereo, glow light gaming look at me generation? The most comfortably lived in human history? Is going to change things up? And is pissed because granddad lost? Whaaaat? No free college?Halifax2TheMax said:Free said:And to add onto that thought:
Young people don't love being ignored, mocked, and lied to
On the afternoon of September 19, Hillary Clinton gave a speech at Temple University in Philadelphia. This millennial-centered speech will be her only campaign appearance until the first presidential debate on September 26. Much like every other interaction with young people during her 2016 presidential campaign, it bombed miserably.
In the scripted speech, she managed to say the phrase “income inequality” only once. Clinton also managed to avoid addressing the question of third party candidates, who many millennials support over her. Her best selling point as a presidential candidate remains that she isn’t Donald Trump.
To further bolster her youth-cred, Clinton spoke about her decision to work for the Children’s Defense Fund instead of a big law firm, but in reality Clinton did not stay there long. According to Kathleen Geier in an essay featured in “False Choices: The Faux Feminism of Hillary Rodham Clinton”, Clinton left the Children’s Defense Fund less than a year later to work for Rose Law Firm, which boasted wealthy clientele such as Wal-Mart and Monsanto. “Though her campaign biography plays up the pro bono work she performed at Rose, the vast majority of her working hours were dedicated to her corporate clients,” writes Geier. Clinton even had the audacity to call herself an “activist” as first lady, after she served on the board of Wal-Mart for six years prior to Bill Clinton assuming office.
The enthusiasm for Clinton’s Temple University speech was lethargic at best, perhaps because like every other time Clinton has spoken directly to millennials, she addresses them as children instead of people who can think for themselves. At the April 2007 convention of New York State Union of Teachers, Clinton revealed what she really thinks of young people. “I believe it is time we get back to teaching discipline, self-control, patience, punctuality,” she said. “The biggest complaint that I hear from employers is that young people who show up for jobs don’t have those habits. They don’t get there on time. They don’t know how to conduct themselves appropriately.”
During the Democratic primaries, Clinton responded to millennials supporting Sen. Bernie Sanders (more than her and Trump) with a combination of condescension and frustration.
At a January presidential forum in Iowa, Clinton fielded a question from a millennial who asked why people his age think she is dishonest. She responded that it’s a symptom of their cluelessness, as they are paying attention to politics for the first time.
In February, Clinton was confronted by a young black protester at a $500-a-plate fundraiser over her lack of apology for supporting mass incarceration and using the racist term “super-predator” in the 1990s. She responded by angrily changing the subject, and declined to apologize.
While campaigning in Minnesota in March, Clinton responded to a young black woman complaining about the lack of diversity in the Democratic Party with a lazy, dismissive, “Why don’t you go run for something?”
During an April Meet the Press interview, Clinton condescendingly told MSNBC’s Chuck Todd that she feels sorry for young people who believe the lies Sanders tells about her. She specifically denied claims made by Greenpeace that she took donations from the fossil fuel industry. However, an investigative report by David Sirota of International Business Times found Clinton accepted millions of dollars in campaign and Clinton Foundation donations from oil companies just a year before she approved the controversial Alberta-Clipper oil pipeline. One of Clinton’s top campaign contributors, Donald Sussman, founder and chairman of the hedge fund Paloma Partners, has invested in several oil companies.
Millennials believed the “lies” Sanders told about Clinton because they were true. Millennials don’t trust Clinton because she has repeatedly said one thing, and overtly done another. She claims to support campaign finance reform, yet has courted billionaires and millionaires from both political parties and managed to match Sanders in campaign contributions only through the use of SuperPACs.
According to Vice News, through the end of July, Clinton has raised over $200 million from the top one percent of wealthiest Americans. After the Democratic National Convention, Clinton abandoned anything to do with Sanders’ policies, instead focusing on cultivating support from establishment Republicans, and billionaires including Warren Buffett and Mark Cuban. Now that her support has dropped in the polls following an embarrassing FBI report and Clinton Foundation pay-to-play schemes being exposed in emails, Clinton has resorted to pandering to millennials again. Too bad only 31 percent of them express support for her in recent polls, which is just a few points higher than for Trump. More than one third of millennials are expected to vote for either Green Party candidate Jill Stein or Libertarian Party candidate Gary Johnson.
Clinton uses Sanders as a lifeline when she becomes desperate for young voters. The Vermont senator’s recent call for millennials not to vote for a third party received more positive news coverage in the mainstream media than Sanders got throughout his entire presidential campaign. But millennials realize that Sanders’ rhetoric is relatively insincere, and is part of a broader pandering project from the Clinton campaign to gain their support.
Clinton’s contemptuous attitude about millennials, and their responding disinterest in her presidency, has provoked annoyance from her supporters in the media. Mother Jones editor in chief Clara Jeffery responded to recent polls with “I never hated millennials more.” Meanwhile Mother Jones writer Kevin Drum, in a poor attempt at damage control, wrote that resentment should instead be directed toward Sanders for his primary digs at Clinton. Somehow, nothing Hillary Clinton and her campaign did to alienate millennials could ever be her fault. There’s got to be some other reason for the widespread dislike American voters have for her candidacy.
Is Mars ready for habitation yet?
If you're going to be on my lawn, the least you could do is put your phone down and rake some leaves.
Hahaha why, so you can pay me a nickel and tell me that I'm damn lucky, in your day it was only worth a penny!Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
Nicely done Benjs. You did what I haven't had the patience to do; dissecting the horrific writing that exists today. You're right on every point. The total misuse of adjectives, hyperbolic statements and false conclusions is as out of control on the left as it has been on the right for years. There are very few websites I can stomach to read these days.0
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Benjs - fact: Hillary degrades young female voters who are supporters of Sanders.
Fact: she laughs when Madeline Albright shame young women for not supporting Hillary. (see video I posted I believe in the trump thread)
Fact: All of this:presidential forum in Iowa, Clinton fielded a question from a millennial who asked why people his age think she is dishonest. She responded that it’s a symptom of their cluelessness, as they are paying attention to politics for the first time.
I don't know what to tell you if you don't like these facts. But don't don't jump on my back because you don't like them. These things happened. The defensiveness for Clinton is unbelievable even when facts are right there in front of our faces.
In February, Clinton was confronted by a young black protester at a $500-a-plate fundraiser over her lack of apology for supporting mass incarceration and using the racist term “super-predator” in the 1990s. She responded by angrily changing the subject, and declined to apologize.
While campaigning in Minnesota in March, Clinton responded to a young black woman complaining about the lack of diversity in the Democratic Party with a lazy, dismissive, “Why don’t you go run for something?”
During an April Meet the Press interview, Clinton condescendingly told MSNBC’s Chuck Todd that she feels sorry for young people who believe the lies Sanders tells about her. She specifically denied claims made by Greenpeace that she took donations from the fossil fuel industry. However, an investigative report by David Sirota of International Business Times found Clinton accepted millions of dollars in campaign and Clinton Foundation donations from oil companies just a year before she approved the controversial Alberta-Clipper oil pipeline. One of Clinton’s top campaign contributors, Donald Sussman, founder and chairman of the hedge fund Paloma Partners, has invested in several oil companies.
To add on: I know it was op Ed. It contained some factual moments when Clinton on camera degraded and put down millenials, esp. women, for supporting Sanders, they accuse her of accepting Big Oil money (she does) etc. We all know this, it's old news. So when Clinton suddenly recently is making pleas for the younger vote? Perhaps she has short-term memory loss.Post edited by Free on0 -
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I thought that was funny. Was it not meant as a joke? Seemed like one.Free said:Here it is:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QRimyfmz0MA
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It was a joke. That's why people laughed.eddiec said:
I thought that was funny. Was it not meant as a joke? Seemed like one.Free said:Here it is:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QRimyfmz0MA
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PL3Bk4DJBd5auPG8M5l0BfysFl0bHJCM6T&v=RvJHXzBEWew
This guy's opinion states the millennial problem with Hillary quite well.
Just spit it out Hillary, tell us what your policies are, tell us what you're going to do for millennials.Post edited by Free on0 -
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I don't find either of those comments offensive. Not sexist, not racist. They are just both dumb comments (one real, one hypothetical). Who cares? It's not like Hillary made that comment. Why do you think Albright's comment is even relevant to the conversation when the conversation isn't about Albright saying something silly?JC29856 said:Imagine the outrage if Jesse Jackson said in 08 there's a special place in hell for African Americans that don't vote Obama.
That would have been racist but Albright isn't SEXIST.Post edited by PJ_Soul onWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
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Nothing at all. From what I can tell, JC just gets offended by things that aren't offensive at all.mrussel1 said:
It's from the DNC, not from Hillary or her campaign. And if you read the whole thing, there's zero nefarious about it.Halifax2TheMax said:
Source? Gotta link?JC29856 said:What is Hilliary selling?
“Hispanics are the most brand loyal consumers in the World: Known fact,” reads the email.
But, “Once a brand loses this loyalty, Hispanics never re-engage: Unforgiving.”With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Ooohh, okay. Silly me, when I read JC's post about how Albright said there is a special place in hell for women who don't vote for Hillary Clinton, I actually took his word for it. I'll never make that mistake again!eddiec said:
I thought that was funny. Was it not meant as a joke? Seemed like one.Free said:Here it is:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QRimyfmz0MA
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
The few the proud the Hilliary????
“He looks at me and goes, ‘Um, how old are you. And I said, ‘Well I am 26, I will be 27.’ And he goes, ‘Well, that is kind of old for us.’ And then he says to me, and this is what gets me, ‘Maybe the dogs will take you,’ meaning the Army.”
–Former secretary of state Hillary Rodham Clinton, speaking at a breakfast, Manchester, N.H., Nov. 10, 20150 -
Yeah, it was a joke based on an old, well-known phrase.PJ_Soul said:
Ooohh, okay. Silly me, when I read JC's post about how Albright said there is a special place in hell for women who don't vote for Hillary Clinton, I actually took his word for it. I'll never make that mistake again!eddiec said:
I thought that was funny. Was it not meant as a joke? Seemed like one.Free said:Here it is:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QRimyfmz0MA
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JC29856 said:
The few the proud the Hilliary????
“He looks at me and goes, ‘Um, how old are you. And I said, ‘Well I am 26, I will be 27.’ And he goes, ‘Well, that is kind of old for us.’ And then he says to me, and this is what gets me, ‘Maybe the dogs will take you,’ meaning the Army.”
–Former secretary of state Hillary Rodham Clinton, speaking at a breakfast, Manchester, N.H., Nov. 10, 2015What point are you trying to make?
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Many of us were unaware of this comment. I'd say he's exposing usPJ_Soul said:JC29856 said:The few the proud the Hilliary????
“He looks at me and goes, ‘Um, how old are you. And I said, ‘Well I am 26, I will be 27.’ And he goes, ‘Well, that is kind of old for us.’ And then he says to me, and this is what gets me, ‘Maybe the dogs will take you,’ meaning the Army.”
–Former secretary of state Hillary Rodham Clinton, speaking at a breakfast, Manchester, N.H., Nov. 10, 2015What point are you trying to make?
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Exposing who? The comment is completely irrelevant. Why was it chosen and posted? What horrible message has been read into it? There isn't even any context.tonifig8 said:
Many of us were unaware of this comment. I'd say he's exposing usPJ_Soul said:JC29856 said:The few the proud the Hilliary????
“He looks at me and goes, ‘Um, how old are you. And I said, ‘Well I am 26, I will be 27.’ And he goes, ‘Well, that is kind of old for us.’ And then he says to me, and this is what gets me, ‘Maybe the dogs will take you,’ meaning the Army.”
–Former secretary of state Hillary Rodham Clinton, speaking at a breakfast, Manchester, N.H., Nov. 10, 2015What point are you trying to make?
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
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Wtf are you talking about? Did you watch the video?Free said:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HtcO8ujQ5ig
She "feels sorry for stupid young people..." 1:10 markWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
I'm absolutely baffled by the last couple pages of this thread. It's spun into complete stupidity.0
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